Maybe this will make you feel a little better?

[Stash]

I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.

Not sure how much it amounted to, but Prescott got some raises due to over performing expectations. All day 3 and UDFA's get them if they perform at a high level

 

[Stash]

Not sure how much it amounted to, but Prescott got some raises due to over performing expectations. All day 3 and UDFA's get them if they perform at a high level

Are you sure they weren't already factored into the numbers I gave?

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

You want to make the don't re-sign Dak crowd feel better? Well I want them to feel worse so....

Jerry Jones makes the decisions in Dallas and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jerry wants Dak to be our franchise QB and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dallas is going to re-sign Dak and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak is going to make over 30 million a year and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak will be our starter for the next four years and there's nothing you can do about it.

Andy Dalton will not be with this team next year and there's nothing you can do about it.

So guess what Dak doubters your powerless and there's nothing you can do about that either.


This is for you @CowboyRoy and @WillieBeamen.

 

[reddyuta]

You want to make the don't re-sign Dak crowd feel better? Well I want them to feel worse so....

Jerry Jones makes the decisions in Dallas and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jerry wants Dak to be our franchise QB and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dallas is going to re-sign Dak and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak is going to make over 30 million a year and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak will be our starter for the next four years and there's nothing you can do about it.

Andy Dalton will not be with this team next year and there's nothing you can do about it.

So guess what Dak doubters your powerless and there's nothing you can do about that either.


This is for you @CowboyRoy and @WillieBeamen.

they will find the energy to complain and create new and innovative Anti Dak threads.

 

[12+88=7]

Thank you for trying to end the feud between the Hatfields and McCoys, but both sides are so dug in that I don't see any compromise in the near future.

There should be a cease fire from now till July 8th, a week before the deadline. At that point release your full arsenal of bullets and have at it.

Everybody else, just duck and cover.

 

[Stash]

Thank you for trying to end the feud between the Hatfields and McCoys, but both sides are so dug in that I don't see any compromise in the near future.

There should be a cease fire from now till July 8th, a week before the deadline. At that point release your full arsenal of bullets and have at it.

Everybody else, just duck and cover.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

I'm getting in here as the 1st Dak contract post I've posted on (I think . . . I try to avoid even reading them).

Your overall (8 year) cost seems accurate but where a contract hurts us (the team) is on the yearly cap numbers. I hate to give any Jones any cred but Stephen has a point that if you spend too much on the QB in a year it will limit the talent you can put around that QB. Obviously some teams are still in the hunt with that, Seattle, and later it will be KC. Dak is not on the same plane with those guys. I like Dak, a lot, but he needs the talent around him to make this team good.

 

[Stash]

I'm getting in here as the 1st Dak contract post I've posted on (I think . . . I try to avoid even reading them).

Your overall (8 year) cost seems accurate but where a contract hurts us (the team) is on the yearly cap numbers. I hate to give any Jones any cred but Stephen has a point that if you spend too much on the QB in a year it will limit the talent you can put around that QB. Obviously some teams are still in the hunt with that, Seattle, and later it will be KC. Dak is not on the same plane with those guys. I like Dak, a lot, but he needs the talent around him to make this team good.

And he won;t be on the same plane as Mahomes when that contract gets done either. It's the nature of the league.

One guy sets the market, the next guy resets the market. Lather, rinse, repeat.

But if the Cowboys really do want to keep Dak long term, they need to get a deal done ahead of the Texans, who will screw up the QB market like they just did the offensive tackle market.

 

[jazzcat22]

You want to make the don't re-sign Dak crowd feel better? Well I want them to feel worse so....

Jerry Jones makes the decisions in Dallas and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jerry wants Dak to be our franchise QB and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dallas is going to re-sign Dak and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak is going to make over 30 million a year and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak will be our starter for the next four years and there's nothing you can do about it.

Andy Dalton will not be with this team next year and there's nothing you can do about it.

So guess what Dak doubters your powerless and there's nothing you can do about that either.


This is for you @CowboyRoy and @WillieBeamen.

The Dallas Cowboys will win a SB with Dak, and there is nothing they can do about that, except go back into the woodwork for years.

 

[USArmyVet]

I'm trying to give my best 'Public Service Message' in an effort to assist in the division regarding our starting quarterback. I understand that many are upset in hearing the dollars being talked about in regard to his next contract. And while I understand it, I hope that people also understand that all entertainers are grossly overpaid! If we want to 'fix' that, it's far bigger than one Dak Prescott.

But what I did was a quick crunching of some numbers between Dak and his closest contemporaries, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz. Rather than focusing on Dak asking for 'Russell Wilson money', let's take a look at what he would cost the Cowboys vs what his contemporaries are costing their teams. There's not a fairer comparison out there.

So here are my quick numbers, cap guru's feel free to correct me if and where I'm wrong:

Jared Goff rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $49,677,990

Extension – 4 years - $134 million

Total = 8 years - $183,677,990


Carson Wentz rookie contract – 2016 – 2019 - $39,676,339

Extension – 4 years - $128 million

Total = 8 years -$167,676,339


Dak Prescott rookie contract – 2016-2019 - $4,903,172

Extension – 4 years - $140 million

Total = 8 years – $144,903.172

Reported $37 million a year figure - $148 million

Adjusted Maximum Total = 8 years – $152,903.172

So what we have are two final projections for Prescott, at the current 'Russel Wilson contract' numbers, or the highest end numbers at $37 million a year reported on that $5 year deal (kept to a 4-year comparison).

So, even if the team paid Prescott at the highest reported annual level, they would still ultimately have the better, more accomplished, more productive, healthier player at a huge discount.

$31 million cheaper than Jared Goff.

$15 million cheaper than Carson Wentz.

This certainly helps me to feel better about it, and I hope it does for some of you as well.

You are comparing (2) 1st round draft pick QB's earnings to a 4th round draft pick QB earnings. Of course 1st round draft picks will make more career money after their rookie contracts so not sure how this makes much sense. Sorry but Goff led his team to a Super Bowl appearance and Wentz was leading his team to a Super Bowl until he got hurt. Dak by way of comparison has led Dallas to 1 playoff win.

 

[ksg811]

Are you sure they weren't already factored into the numbers I gave?

Dak's Proven Performance Escalator is already included in his 4th year salary. The additional cash bonuses he received for performance based pay are separate from his contract. Those bonuses are included in a team's player compensation pool as a player benefit, NOT salary so it's separate from the cap.

Your numbers for Goff and Wentz are also a tad off. Both had their 5th year options ($22.783m) exercised, essentially making their deals 9 years, not 8 as you have it. They are actually broken down as follows:

Jared Goff rookie deal - 4 years - $29,937,673 + 5th year option $22,783,000 = $50,720,673

Extension - 4 years - $134 million.

Total 9 years - 184,720,673

Carson Wentz rookie deal 4 years - $26,676,338 + 5th year option $22,783,000 = $49,459,338

Extension - 4 years - $128 million

Total - 9 years - 177,459,338

 

[glimmerman]

He is gonna push the QB market up a little. When better franchise QB get paid like mahomes he is going to destroy it. Sign Dak before this happens. That alone will save us money.

 

[Stash]

You are comparing (2) 1st round draft pick QB's earnings to a 4th round draft pick QB earnings. Of course 1st round draft picks will make more career money after their rookie contracts so not sure how this makes much sense. Sorry but Goff led his team to a Super Bowl appearance and Wentz was leading his team to a Super Bowl until he got hurt. Dak by way of comparison has led Dallas to 1 playoff win.

I can pull up all 3 players career on-field stats if you think it would make your attempted argument look any better?

Just let me know.

 

[reddyuta]

I'm getting in here as the 1st Dak contract post I've posted on (I think . . . I try to avoid even reading them).

Your overall (8 year) cost seems accurate but where a contract hurts us (the team) is on the yearly cap numbers. I hate to give any Jones any cred but Stephen has a point that if you spend too much on the QB in a year it will limit the talent you can put around that QB. Obviously some teams are still in the hunt with that, Seattle, and later it will be KC. Dak is not on the same plane with those guys. I like Dak, a lot, but he needs the talent around him to make this team good.

both the guys you mentioned have a good group of Receivers too.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You want to make the don't re-sign Dak crowd feel better? Well I want them to feel worse so....

Jerry Jones makes the decisions in Dallas and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jerry wants Dak to be our franchise QB and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dallas is going to re-sign Dak and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak is going to make over 30 million a year and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dak will be our starter for the next four years and there's nothing you can do about it.

Andy Dalton will not be with this team next year and there's nothing you can do about it.

So guess what Dak doubters your powerless and there's nothing you can do about that either.


This is for you @CowboyRoy and @WillieBeamen.

YADA YADA YADA YADA since last spring YADA YADA YADA YADA....same old BS being posted on how Dak is this Dak is that and in the end, you Dak-Zoids are without a contract.
Zeke and Coop and Collins and many more got there $$$$$ and long term verification from Jerry..... EXCEPT DAK!!!
Now post again when Dak signs his new mega deal.....be prepared to be inactive here for a longggg time bud!!

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

I like Dak, a lot, but he needs the talent around him to make this team good.

Yeah but, most of talent that Dak needs around him is already set to be here for the next four years. So re-signing Dak to a four year deal will not hurt this teams talent level much. Especially when we can replaced those minor losses in the draft. Now after those four years things can get a little dicey.

 

[Stash]

YADA YADA YADA YADA since last spring YADA YADA YADA YADA....same old BS being posted on how Dak is this Dak is that and in the end, you Dak-Zoids are without a contract.
Zeke and Coop and Collins and many more got there $$$$$ and long term verification from Jerry..... EXCEPT DAK!!!
Now post again when Dak signs his new mega deal.....be prepared to be inactive here for a longggg time bud!!

You holding yourself to that same standard?

Are you finally going to leave when he does sign it?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Nice post.

I wasn't really worried about it to begin with, though.

I've already this explained so many times. We already have all the following with $31 MIL already accounting for QB. Not even including Gregory in this.

Dak's contract is literally not going to stop us from doing anything. The team is in really good shape. Keep drafting well,signing key vets where you need them, & we're golden.

All under long term contracts:
LT, RT, G1, WR1, TE1, RB1, LB1 (Smith), DE1, CB2, K

All under rookie contracts (starters):
WR1 x 2 (Gallup & Lamb), MLB1 (LVE), G2 x 2 (McGovern/Williams), RB2

All under rookie contracts (potential starters):
C (Badiaz), DE, DT, CB x 2

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You holding yourself to that same standard?

Are you finally going to leave when he does sign it?

Ohhh you don't like me here well too bad!
By the way, even if I left what would you do with the rest of the Dak-Doubters?
Your dream is to ban all of us and change the name of the site to the DAKZONE.......GL with that!