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So, you must agree that your post was pointless.
You whining over why someone makes a comment that doesn't follow your criteria,, now that's pointless.
So, you must agree that your post was pointless.
Criteria? Holy cow, did you miss this one.You whining over why someone makes a comment that doesn't follow your criteria,, now that's pointless.
Criteria? Holy cow, did you miss this one.
Your whining about me pointing out the flaw in your post, now that's pointless!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McClay had tons of input on the McGovern pick.I didn't notice McClay or Stuphen making that call with the 3rd round pick in the 2019 draft. I did notice his son leaning in the direction of taking the trade and then Booger spoke and that was done. McClay built that draft board but he doesn't run it.
Jumbo, I agree that Jerry’s role as GM has evolved and he has delegated more. Will McClay is doing an excellent job with scouting and talent acquisition which has been the centerpiece of our uptick with drafts the last near decade. From that standpoint, Jerry has made progress. It remains to be seen if Jerry has learned to not overstep his boundaries in the locker room as he clearly did with Jason Garrett.Being hung up on who carries the title of General Manager for the Cowboys is beyond tired. Get over it already. The Cowboys have split the conventional duties of General Manager between Will McClay (player acquisition) and Stephen Jones (contract negotiations). The one major failure of the Cowboys management model since Stephen and McClay took over was giving the Head Coach the authority he needs to build a staff. And the Cowboys have now done that with the hire of Mike McCarthy.
The fact that Jerry retains the GM title doesn't matter. In today's NFL, EVERY owner is deeply involved in the mega-million dollar contracts. It would be irresponsible for them to remain detached. The Clint Murchison hands-off model is as dead today as head-hunting safeties, focusing on the run game, and allowing hits on the QB. It's a relic of times past.
Jerry, who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame because of his major impact on marketing and building both the NFL brand, and maximizing NFL revenue (which, by the way, is also allowing playet salaries to skyrocket), can retain the title of GM because he does so much more than jusy manage football operations. He manages the business of the Cowboys, including corporate sponsorships, corporate partnerships, stadium and property management for both Arlington and Frisco developments, entertainment venue management (all the non-football stadium revenue generated in both Arlington and Frisco), other entertainment entities (multi-media productions and outlets), and public philanthropy. Honestly, there is not a single person more qualified to fill that role than Jerry Jones.
He has delegated more than 95% of the daily football operations to Stephen, McClay and McCarthy. Pining for the good old days of having a hands off owner is as worthless and futile as wishing offenses still ran the single wing. It's not only a waste of time; it's downright stupid.
Was he ever iron fisted? I don't see that. He's always had his voices he's listened to and acted accordingly.McClay had tons of input on the McGovern pick.
Yes Jerry made the call. He is the face of the franchise, like I said in my post. He will always do the media stuff, which I also said in my post.
Being the face of the franchise doesn't mean he is the iron fisted GM of the Dallas Cowboys any more.
Yup, he has a right to "meddle" or make GM decisions - his title says as much. It's that he hasn't been very good at it - as you indicated, it's been his foolish decisions at times. He recently said that he thinks he has learned some lessons from previous mistakes. He didn't elaborate, but it seems to me that he has learned to let go of some stuff. We will see.I'm really not understanding your point. Of course he has the right to meddle, why did you feel the need to point that out? The point of this thread is that meddling by Jerry has derailed us. No one has said he doesn't have the right, but the foolishness of it is causing us to lose. So, what point is being made by pointing out the right to meddle? I seriously don't understand it.
Wow!! Love the insight! Don't forget to wipe the top of the toilet bowl. Keep up the good work.All or Nothing was staged with regards to Jerry. He does not attend meeting every week like the show implied.
It falls under the heading of my comment that Jerry maintains 1st dibs on camera and microphone time.
The RB coach could be seen being Zeke's buddy more than his boss. If somebody really wanted to discipline Zeke, it was not the RB coach.
I did not say NEVER with regards to post Parcells. Jerry loved the attention that TO brought to the team. Parcells didn't really reject the idea, he just didn't encourage it either.
Signing/drafting players is the job of the front office/GM and Garrett was only the Head Coach just like McCarthy was ONLY the Head Coach in Green Bay.
I also said that the final piece to Stephen Jones being in complete control of football operations was when he pushed Garrett out.
- I think we all know that Jerry would have just given Garrett a new contract if nobody else was involved in the decision.
There was extreme meddling by Jerry from 1994 (post Jimmy) up to 2003 when Parcells was hired. I wouldn't be shocked to find out Jerry was calling the plays during the Campo era.
Everything since Parcells has been fraction of what it was when Jerry established his reputation for "meddling".
FYI, signing Greg Hardy was a good move. Hardy was a good player on the field. That move would likely happen even with Stephen Jones or Will McClay in complete control. Again, Garrett was not the GM or assistant GM or in the personnel department.
I have to say I’ve been impressed with jerry this off seasonI keep thinking that at some point JJ will look in the mirror and realize that his ways of meddling are the biggest reason this team hasn’t returned to playoff glory. So many careers of great players have been wasted the last two decades plus. If he can’t see that he’s the biggest problem we’ve had, we will probably keep getting similar results.
Here’s to hoping...
Since our Cowboys last won a SB, there have been 24 other SB winners. Here’s a not so surprising fact about the owners of the last 24 SB winning teams:
The good news is, we certainly have had some good things to celebrate this offseason. Just look at the highlights of the last several months:
- Those owners all hired someone besides themselves to be the general manager.
And that’s just to name a few good offseason outcomes.
- We finally got rid of an incapable HC.
- We hired a bonafide NFL HC with skins on the wall.
- We had an outstanding draft.
But the best thing that could come out of this offseason is a fundamental truth about why we haven’t been able to return to the glory days of yesteryear. That truth is our owner has meddled and micromanaged his head coaches too much, while making himself the face of the franchise.
So here’s hoping the business genius that owns the Cowboys wakes up and realizes that he’s got the most financially valuable sports franchise in the world because he’s a great businessman. But he must also realize he hasn’t been to a Super Bowl in a quarter of a century because he micromanages and meddles way too much.
If at 78, Jerry can learn how to let his very qualified HC run the locker room, we actually have a much better chance of getting back to the playoff glory we all want.
That would be the best offseason move we have had in a very long time.
OK, so Jerry...does not renew Garrett's contract, and hires MM as HC and allows him total control to hire his own staff.
Is this not what we would want from any GM if he were to bring one in?
They stay the course about not overpaying FA's and keep their own more so than lose them, not any that would be a difference maker anyway.
Is this not what we would want from any GM if he were to bring one in?
They ran the draft far better by JERRY sticking to the board as it was prepared for the team?
Is this not what we would want from any GM if he were to bring one in?
So what is the problem?
Jerry has a heroin-like addiction to reporters, cameras and microphones. And I don’t think he’s open to an intervention that includes rehab.The problem that has been with this team since Jimmy left is Jerry allows the players to have direct communication with him, which undermines the head coach.
This is the age old saga of the kids going back and forth between Mom and Dad to play one against the other, so the kids get what they want.
The team sits at a crossroads here. Jerry has allowed the head coach autonomy and to work with McClay.
But if this fork in the road sends the team down a path of success, will Jerry stand back and allow that success, or will he inevitably step forward so he can conduct press conferences, and announce changes before the head coach, which returns the team to the split leadership, and neuters the head coach.?
Then this team is back where it was, and all that greatness and newness in the way the team has been run will evaporate under the glaring heat of Jerry wanting the world to finally think he is a football man.
A mirage looks like water a half mile down a sun baked road.
The fan base will need to wait and see if the Evil One will remain silent, only coming out when the team hoists the Lombardi.
Or will his evil heart and lust for recognition push aside all the good that was done to once again ruin this team's future?
Since our Cowboys last won a SB, there have been 24 other SB winners. Here’s a not so surprising fact about the owners of the last 24 SB winning teams:
The good news is, we certainly have had some good things to celebrate this offseason. Just look at the highlights of the last several months:
- Those owners all hired someone besides themselves to be the general manager.
And that’s just to name a few good offseason outcomes.
- We finally got rid of an incapable HC.
- We hired a bonafide NFL HC with skins on the wall.
- We had an outstanding draft.
But the best thing that could come out of this offseason is a fundamental truth about why we haven’t been able to return to the glory days of yesteryear. That truth is our owner has meddled and micromanaged his head coaches too much, while making himself the face of the franchise.
So here’s hoping the business genius that owns the Cowboys wakes up and realizes that he’s got the most financially valuable sports franchise in the world because he’s a great businessman. But he must also realize he hasn’t been to a Super Bowl in a quarter of a century because he micromanages and meddles way too much.
If at 78, Jerry can learn how to let his very qualified HC run the locker room, we actually have a much better chance of getting back to the playoff glory we all want.
That would be the best offseason move we have had in a very long time.
@Bobhaze The Cowboys have been having good to great drafts for many, many years.
Parcells said Jerry is not a meddler and had no problem working for him.
Jerry is a good GM and like all GMs makes mistakes occasionally.
Yes, I think Jerry was wrong for hiring Garrett and keeping him here for 10 years.
So, why have the Cowboys not won a SB for so long? I don't really know. The Cowboys have had numerous teams talented enough to win SBs these past 24 years. Sometimes, the cards just don't fall right, some bad luck, some bad coaching decisions, some bad FA or draft picks not working out, etc.
My only guess is that at this point a good number of players when they become Cowboys don't work as hard as they should and maybe think that being a Cowboy is the tops and they don't need that SB victory to crown their career. I think maybe the money and fame with being a Cowboy weighs more than a SB ring. Just a hunch. My cousin who lives in Dallas said years ago that Dallas (the city and people who live there) treats Cowboy players like gods.
There is no GM school. Jerry has dedicated his life's work to being a GM. He has seen more football than most GMs. Jerry has played the game, lived the game, and breaths NFL.
I have asked many anti-GM Jerry complainers what makes a good GM? Played the game? Watches how much film? Was a scout? Studied what in college? They never have an answer as to what traits make a good GM. Pretty much all they do is pick a SB winning GM and say that guy.
The meddling crap is overblown bye the fans and the media.