Twitter: Dak Reality Check

[kskboys]

Would you agree to say the majority of the league is doing it wrong then? Every team that gives an extension to QBs like the 49ers, Vikings, Lions, Eagles, Rams is doing it wrong for not moving on from their respective QBs and instead going the free agent veteran QB route and/or drafting a new QB? Or you consider those QBs playmakers?

Each situation is different.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

How about just ignoring his stats and just have some common sense understanding that he isn't a difference maker at the QB position one way or the other.

You guys do mental hoola hoops to defend this guy.

He's not a playmaker. He's a bus driver and will always be a bus driver.

He will need scheme or something to elevate his game because he doesn't have the natural ability to do it on his own.

There is nothing wrong with Dak Prescott as your QB. It's when your bus driver starts asking to be paid like he is Jeff Gordon.

We can't have a non playmaker at QB and watch the team around him dwindle. WE will win nothing with that formula.

They call that "the eye test" and ridicule it. I say there's nothing really wrong with it. It's just looking at the overall big picture of things. Like say using the "accuracy" stats PROVES Dak is a good QB? OR that "drops" stats PROVES it was all the receiver's fault? I don;t buy it for one second. It's ignoring the very thing we love about football. WATCHING IT! Let your brain enter the intangibles into the equation ALONG with stats.

If people think Dalton is a "great backup"...why wouldn't dak be a "good bus driver"? Nothing wrong with either one as long as they are treated as such.

 

[cowboygo]

Each situation is different.

But the constant remains, the teams believed they were franchise QBs, which is why they got paid.

 

[Nav22]

How about just ignoring his stats and just have some common sense understanding that he isn't a difference maker at the QB position one way or the other.

You guys do mental hoola hoops to defend this guy.

He's not a playmaker. He's a bus driver and will always be a bus driver.

He will need scheme or something to elevate his game because he doesn't have the natural ability to do it on his own.

There is nothing wrong with Dak Prescott as your QB. It's when your bus driver starts asking to be paid like he is Jeff Gordon.

We can't have a non playmaker at QB and watch the team around him dwindle. WE will win nothing with that formula.

Typical anti-Dak gobbledygook.

Zero facts presented. Zero substantive evidence.

I’ve never heard of a “bus driver” who throws for nearly 5,000 yards and 30 TD, but by all means, keep talking right out of your ***.

Just say “DURRRR BUT MAH EYE TEST SAY DAK SUX!” and be done with it. Save us all some time.

 

[Jarv]

It won't ever go away. Even if he won 3 straight superbowls and broke all the records you would have the same clan in here talking about it had nothing to do with Dak.

Do you seriously believe that???

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Do you seriously believe that???

Yes because it's very true

 

[CATCH17]

Typical anti-Dak gobbledygook.

Zero facts presented. Zero substantive evidence.

I’ve never heard of a “bus driver” who throws for nearly 5,000 yards and 30 TD, but by all means, keep talking right out of your ***.

Just say “DURRRR BUT MAH EYE TEST SAY DAK SUX!” and be done with it. Save us all some time.

But you guys don't like it when I say things like 14 of his TD's came against 2 teams who picked top 5 in the draft.

The Macro looks great for Dak statistically but it's because he annihilated bad teams. The lack of TD's and turnovers picked up when we played teams with a .500 record or better.

Dallas doesn't have to pay 35 million a year to beat the teams we are beating.

People that rely on Dak's numbers just simply don't understand football or they are complete fan boys as far as i'm concerned.

Dak's a good solid player that's not worth what he's asking for.. DURRRRRR

 

[Nav22]

But you guys don't like it when I say things like 14 of his TD's came against 2 teams.

The Macro looks great for Dak statistically but it's because he annihilated bad teams. The lack of TD's and turnovers picked up when we played teams with a .500 record or better.

Dallas doesn't have to pay a year to beat the teams we are beating.

People that rely on Dak's numbers just simply don't understand football or they are complete fan boys as far as i'm concerned.

LOL that’s called “cherry-picking.”

It’s what people do when the “macro” makes them look stupid.

But the “macro” is how QBs are judged here on Earth.

Even with your made-up cherry-picked stats, you don’t compare it to other QBs. Hmm, why is that?

Perfect example:

Dak’s record vs winning teams has been brought up ad nauseam by the anti-Dak crowd. He went 2-6 vs winning teams in 2019 and is 13-17 overall.

What they DON’T mention is that the 43% win pct is actually right on par with the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees!

So why don’t they mention THAT? It’s either because they didn’t know or didn’t care to do the research. Even when the information is presented to them, they throw out some other garbage like, “DURRR BUT MY EYE TEST SAYS HE’S NOT A PLAYMAKER!!”

That’s why people like you are becoming bigger laughingstocks daily.

Let me teach you something about the NFL since you’re clearly new to this:

“Annihilating bad teams” is not a given. Winning nearly half your games vs winning teams is not a given. That’s what top-notch QBs do.

The strong majority of NFL teams don’t routinely annihilate bad teams or win nearly half their games vs winning teams.

 

[CATCH17]

LOL that’s called “cherry-picking.”

It’s what people do when the “macro” makes them look stupid.

But the “macro” is how QBs are judged here on Earth.

Even with your made-up cherry-picked stats, you don’t compare it to other QBs. Hmm, why is that?

Perfect example:

Dak’s record vs winning teams has been brought up ad nauseam by the anti-Dak crowd. He went 2-6 vs winning teams in 2019 and is 13-17 overall.

What they DON’T mention is that the 43% win pct is actually right on par with the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees!

So why don’t they mention THAT? It’s either because they didn’t know or didn’t care to do the research. Even when the information is presented to them, they throw out some other garbage like, “DURRR BUT MY EYE TEST SAYS HE’S NOT A PLAYMAKER!!”

That’s why people like you are becoming bigger laughingstocks daily.

Yay.. You made the numbers dance and now he's Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees! YAY!

Dak is solid. Nothing more.

It's not just the record against winning teams.. It's that he has almost no presence on the field in those games because he isn't a playmaking Quarterback.

You call me a laughing stock but dude.. You're simply just delusional, arguing just to argue, or a fan boy.

The problem with Dak is what he costs and what he is as a player.

I think he's a good player BTW.

 

[Cowboys22]

Then you throw in having to overcome coaching too.

Argue with your momma

All of that plus what I perceive as very poor all around coaching on both sides of the ball is why I'm excited to see what Dak can do with these new coaches and schemes. It's not a great situation the team is in. I think at this point, I would just get a 4 year deal done. I would try and get it down a little from $35 million per year as a compromise for doing 4 years. I would not want to push it to the end and risk not getting it done. If he plays on the franchise tag and excels in the new system, you are looking at having to give him Mahomes money next year. Just give him 4 years @ slightly higher numbers that Wentz and Goff and be done with it. I would then make sure I took those 4 years to develop another QB that would give me another option than to go through this again all the while hoping Dak develops into the kind of QB you don't mind paying whatever it takes.

 

[Nav22]

Yay.. You made the numbers dance and now he's Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees! YAY!

Dak is solid. Nothing more.

It's not just the record against winning teams.. It's that he has almost no presence on the field in those games because he isn't a playmaking Quarterback.

You call me a laughing stock but dude.. You're simply just delusional or are arguing just to argue.

LOLLLLL I made the numbers dance??? YOU of all people have the nerve to say that???

I was making a point about the stupidity of the anti-Dak crowd’s arguments. I look at the “macro”, unlike you. YOU are a cherry-picking joke.

“It's that he has almost no presence on the field in those games because he isn't a playmaking Quarterback.”

LOLLLLLL THERE IT IS! Like CLOCKWORK!

“DURRRRR BUT MAH EYE TEST!!!”

 

[Ranched]

With all these Dak threads in the past months the Cowboys fanbase is probably more knowledgeable about their quarterback than any other fanbase in the league. BOOM!

 

[CATCH17]

LOLLLLL I made the numbers dance??? YOU of all people have the nerve to say that???

I was making a point about the stupidity of the anti-Dak crowd’s arguments. I look at the “macro”, unlike you. YOU are a cherry-picking joke.

“It's that he has almost no presence on the field in those games because he isn't a playmaking Quarterback.”

LOLLLLLL THERE IT IS! Like CLOCKWORK!

“DURRRRR BUT MAH EYE TEST!!!”

Ok Nav you win.. 5000 yards and 30 TD's.. He's awesome.

We have an elite QB. Pay him whatever. Stats do not lie.

 

[cowboygo]

Ok Nav you win.. 5000 yards and 30 TD's.. He's awesome.

We have an elite QB. Pay him whatever. Stats do not lie.

Thing is, you say Dak will always be a bus driver to you. You don't even allow yourself to believe he can improve. What would it even take, just to have it on record? Does it take for him to get hurt and see Dalton struggle? Because if Dalton succeeds you'll be banging your chest.

 

[CATCH17]

Thing is, you say Dak will always be a bus driver to you. You don't even allow yourself to believe he can improve. What would it even take, just to have it on record? Does it take for him to get hurt and see Dalton struggle? Because if Dalton succeeds you'll be banging your chest.

I view myself as a pretty decent talent evaluator. Maybe you think I suck.. I really don't care.

Dak is a decent talent at best.

He's just not a special player. Nothing about him outside of intangibles is special.

Accuracy? Nope.

Arm Strength? Nope

Release? Nope

Footwork? Nope

Running? Not bad when he wants to.

Intangibles? Sure



For Dak to be "better" it will have to come through system.. He will need a coach, like Shannahan in San Francisco, that can just simply get guys open and make it easy for the QB.

That is how Dak "improves".

It's about like giving Alex Smith a coach like Andy Reid.. Sure it makes him a lot better but he's still Alex smith.

 

[G2]

I like Dak. Good kid. He’s a gamer and playmaking ability. Just not as prolific passer as I’d like to have.

Sorry, I’m not a slobbering Dakster but he’s our QB so I’ll root him on.

His statistics suggest he is prolific unless you want to make up your own definition.

 

[cowboygo]

I view myself as a pretty decent talent evaluator. Maybe you think I suck.. I really don't care.

Dak is a decent talent at best.

He's just not a special player. Nothing about him outside of intangibles is special.

Accuracy? Nope.

Arm Strength? Nope

Release? Nope

Footwork? Nope

Running? Not bad when he wants to.

Intangibles? Sure



For Dak to be "better" it will have to come through system.. He will need a coach, like Shannahan in San Francisco, that can just simply get guys open and make it easy for the QB.

That is how Dak "improves".

It's about like giving Alex Smith a coach like Andy Reid.. Sure it makes him a lot better but he's still Alex smith.

I appreciate you are consistent with your argument. I just don't think the alternative of going the veteran QB route is the right one. I remember Matt Cassel not being able to do anything here, and he was a former pro-bowler. This led to even more people appreciating Romo.

Dak is a decent talent, which is why he was a 4th rounder. But with experience, I do see the game continue to slow down for him. And if Dak gets to play as long as Alex Smith did when he got to have Andy Reid, I do think Dak would outperform him by a substantial margin.

 

[Nav22]

Ok Nav you win.. 5000 yards and 30 TD's.. He's awesome.

We have an elite QB. Pay him whatever. Stats do not lie.

40-24 and very good stats through 4 NFL seasons.

He’ll be paid what the market dictates he should be paid.

I know it hurts.

 

[Diehardblues]

His statistics suggest he is prolific unless you want to make up your own definition.

I understand it can be a subjective description much like Elite but when I watch him throwing the ball and his passes overall I don’t see him as a Prolific Passer.

You're right . Sometimes the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

He has his moments but I just don’t place him in that Elite or Prolific Passer category with stats alone.

 

[Diehardblues]

But the constant remains, the teams believed they were franchise QBs, which is why they got paid.

And Dak is a franchise QB and deserves to be paid.

Whether he’s one of the Elites and deserves highest paid is another argument.

Even most of his ardent supporters don’t necessarily believe he should be the top paid.