No one "hated" Dak back in 2016

DandyDon52

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I certainly didn't hate Dak in 2016, but wanted Romo to get his job back when he became healthy. Romo was the better QB and should have retained his job, but that doesn't matter now.
To be honest I was on the dak train as it was called here back then, until he lost to the giants and had awful game.
plus I had been seeing some of his flaws, but he kept winning games lol.
But after seeing tony on the 1 td drive he had in last game, and the td pass to williams, I thought man they should go back to tony
for the playoffs.
But the jones boys know all, lol and left tony on the bench ! could have cost them a SB with that decision.
 

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So spiking the ball is on the QB and not the coaches? OK, was it Romo’s fault we called a timeout against GB at the end of the first half in 2014 which allowed the officials to overturn a first down during the break forcing a 3rd down? Romo then proceeded to fumble the snap.

We mismanaged so many 2 minute drills during Garrett’s tenure. He was horrible at clock management. We can now just blame the QB for those, right?

Completely different scenarios and you know it. Romo was a highly experienced Vet and effectively the offensive coordinator/coach of many plays by 2014.

I stated in my post that Garrett deserves a lot of the blame. People can spew their guts out over x and y reasons but many play off games are close by nature regardless and effectively come down to a few plays. The Cowboys' drive at the end of the game was the difference between winning, losing or taking it to OT where we would have been clear favourites.

You can blame the coaching etc but in doing so you just further strengthen the argument why Romo should have started. By 2014 Romo didn't rely upon Garrett in any way and was allowed to change plays at the line of scrimmage.

If Garrett had told Romo to spike the ball...Romo would have just carried on milking the clock.
 

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Ok to be fair,
Garrett deserves a lot of blame as it's a brain dead decision to play a rookie over an All Pro QB in a game like that..........This was IMO all on the jones boys, they decided to make dak the # 1 qb, and then to keep starting him in playoffs.
I do think JG approved it, or was just puppet boy and said nothing.


Spiking the ball was on JG, he even admitted that, said he wanted to "regroup" :lmao2:
It allowed GB to rest and regroup, and they regrouped better than dallas.

The core issue is that a rookie shouldn't have been starting over an experienced and healthy Romo in 2016.

If Garrett had instructed Romo to spike the ball in 2016 what do you think he would have done!?
 

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Completely different scenarios and you know it. Romo was a highly experienced Vet and effectively the offensive coordinator/coach of many plays by 2014.

I stated in my post that Garrett deserves a lot of the blame. People can spew their guts out over x and y reasons but many play off games are close by nature regardless and effectively come down to a few plays. The Cowboys' drive at the end of the game was the difference between winning, losing or taking it to OT where we would have been clear favourites.

You can blame the coaching etc but in doing so you just further strengthen the argument why Romo should have started. By 2014 Romo didn't rely upon Garrett in any way and was allowed to change plays at the line of scrimmage.

If Garrett had told Romo to spike the ball...Romo would have just carried on milking the clock.
Romo should have been cut the moment they knew he would miss half the season.
 

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How many interceptions has Tom Brady thrown in the playoffs. Imagine if he
didn’t come back and win those games. From the first snap until the last . Everything in between is called football. We had an opportunity to win that game. If not for elite field goal which they never should’ve Been allowed to get into position for
Well starting off down 0-21 is not a recipe for success in playoffs now is it??
And at the end, they left almost 2 min on the clock? so many teams could get in fg range, even with 50 seconds left.

The thing is you cant start out that bad and expect to win games in playoffs.
Had they started romo, I think that early part of the game would have been different.
But we will never know now.
 

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The core issue is that a rookie shouldn't have been starting over an experienced and healthy Romo in 2016.

If Garrett had instructed Romo to spike the ball in 2016 what do you think he would have done!?
well I would think or hope he would have ignored him like u say, and we they lol might not have been in a position like that, they might have had the lead and just needed to run the clock.
 

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Because Dak played well in that game and the QB position wasn’t the reason the team lost. Romo has been shielded from criticism since 2006 for all the season ending losses yet all of a sudden the very same people now blamed 2016 loss on the QB. It made no sense. If Dak laid an egg in that game then this continued harping over Romo not playing in the game would have some teeth, but he did not.
If you really think Romo was ever shielded from criticism, then you weren't part of this board. That man took every bit as much as Dak ever has.
 

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Lol...you've never been able to hide your dislike for Romo. I usually scroll by your comments when it's anything QB related.
Oh yeah, I don't hide it. I'm not a coward or a liar like Dak haters. I enjoy using complaints about Dak and showing how they were applicable to Romo. It highlights the hypocrisy.

That said, saying Romo should have been cut when they knew he would miss half the season has nothing to do with hating Romo. It had to do with making a sound football decision. If Dak failed the season would have been over and not worth bringing Romo back in. If he succeeded then you were going to stay with Dak and let him be the future. Should have just bit the bullet and cut him prior to the start of the season.
 

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That said, saying Romo should have been cut when they knew he would miss half the season has nothing to do with hating Romo. It had to do with making a sound football decision. If Dak failed the season would have been over and not worth bringing Romo back in. If he succeeded then you were going to stay with Dak and let him be the future. Should have just bit the bullet and cut him prior to the start of the season.

Romo's main purpose that season was to be a backup QB. (Arguably the best backup QB in the league that year.) It was perfectly possible that Dak could have gone down to injury mid-season or near the end of the season, or in the playoffs. If you cut Romo mid-season, what do you get? I don't think you save any money - the contract doesn't save money like that (plus the Cowboys didn't have much need for cap space mid-season.) On the other hand you then leave your team with no parachute should your rookie QB break a leg.
 

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If you really think Romo was ever shielded from criticism, then you weren't part of this board. That man took every bit as much as Dak ever has.
Oh yeah, he had his share of haters, like Dak. He also has plenty of people who have an excuse for every failure, which increased after his playing days. I was a Romo fan and defended him daily on the DC.com message boards. But I was defending him against claims he sucked and we couldn't win with him (much like people now do with Dak). After his playing days Romo became a legend and talks about how we would have won SBs if he could play and how he should be in the Hall of Fame surfaced. It no longer was about defending him from unreasonable haters, his biggest fans became unreasonable. Seems like they take pleasure in bashing Dak as Romo was bashed, yet fail to realize Romo had issues just like Dak does.
 

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Romo's main purpose that season was to be a backup QB. (Arguably the best backup QB in the league that year.) It was perfectly possible that Dak could have gone down to injury mid-season or near the end of the season, or in the playoffs. If you cut Romo mid-season, what do you get? I don't think you save any money - the contract doesn't save money like that (plus the Cowboys didn't have much need for cap space mid-season.) On the other hand you then leave your team with no parachute should your rookie QB break a leg.
Then tank the season and get a QB with a high draft pick. As soon as he went down with another injury they should have looked to the future. Romo was no longer it. Cut bait and sink or swim.
 

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Well starting off down 0-21 is not a recipe for success in playoffs now is it??
And at the end, they left almost 2 min on the clock? so many teams could get in fg range, even with 50 seconds left.

The thing is you cant start out that bad and expect to win games in playoffs.
Had they started romo, I think that early part of the game would have been different.
But we will never know now.
You mean the guy that QB'd 6 playoff games where the Cowboys scored a total of 1 TD and 3 FGs in the 1st quarter. 6 quarters of football with a total of 16 pts.

That guy would get us off to a quick start in 2016 after not playing the whole season????
 

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To be honest I was on the dak train as it was called here back then, until he lost to the giants and had awful game.
plus I had been seeing some of his flaws, but he kept winning games lol.
But after seeing tony on the 1 td drive he had in last game, and the td pass to williams, I thought man they should go back to tony
for the playoffs.
But the jones boys know all, lol and left tony on the bench ! could have cost them a SB with that decision.

agree with you. He should have had the shot to play that year. Oh well.
 

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You mean the guy that QB'd 6 playoff games where the Cowboys scored a total of 1 TD and 3 FGs in the 1st quarter. 6 quarters of football with a total of 16 pts.

That guy would get us off to a quick start in 2016 after not playing the whole season????
yes that guy lol, Romo was much better with linehan as OC from 2014 on.
Tonys best season was with murray having a good year in 14, and in 16 he would have had elliot when he was good.
 

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yes that guy lol, Romo was much better with linehan as OC from 2014 on.
Tonys best season was with murray having a good year in 14, and in 16 he would have had elliot when he was good.
He wasn’t very good in 2015.
 

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yes that guy lol, Romo was much better with linehan as OC from 2014 on.
Tonys best season was with murray having a good year in 14, and in 16 he would have had elliot when he was good.
Your spin moves are almost as good as Romo's lol.

So the 2014 Romo-led Cowboys w/Murray scored only 1 TD in the 1st quarter of the GB playoff game and were shutout in the 1st quarter of the Lions game. The GB TD was the only Dallas 1st quarter playoff TD in 6 Romo playoff games.

Now explain again how 2016 was going to magically be different? Your original point that I questioned was "with Romo playing in the 2016 playoff game, the Cowboys would have gotten off to a guick start".

Hint: this isn't only a Romo issue. The Cowboys have stunk at getting off to quick starts for many years which is why it was shocking that you would use it to make your point earlier.
 
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