Can we copy cat Jackson and the Ravens?

[Williamsboys]

Ravens got punched in the mouth in the Divisional Round. Dallas doesn't need to revamp their offense to achieve that.

Jackson has been completely incapacitated in both of his postseason appearances. There is no evidence of this experiment working yet.

'Ravens got punched in the mouth in the divisional game, I sure wish Dallas Made the divisional game..

 

[Haimerej]

They've been spanked in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Offense struggled until down big. We call that garbage time with Dak. I thought you wanted to get away from that?

Been saying it since 2016- QBs who rely on running will never succeed against good defenses. All they have to do is stay assignment sound and not get out of position and the scramblers/runners have nowhere to go.

 

[Jarv]

Maybe if we had the fastest QB in the NFL like they do...lol. Dak has seemed to not run as much as he used too, maybe because he's in the "prove it" years contract wise?

 

[DFWJC]

Btw.

Just so we are clear here

• Jackson THREW for 36 TDs last year.

• RGIII's very best year was only 20.

• Dak's best year was 30 and he averages about 24.

Jackson is just different.

Just let Dak be Dak

 

[khiladi]

Jackson is a completely different type of athlete and his release is quick, when running. It’s the pocket, particularly the sideline routes that are inconsistent from what I remember from the play-offs. Yet to be seen if his style can work in the play-offs.

 

[glimmerman]

Sorry?

So you think being a fan and ticket holder amount to what?

I will think about it at the next game when I sit under the big screen. My tickets paid by the 3 other tickets for the seats I own.

You?

Type on bro.

You really should be more careful about who you want to call out. People who actually support the team with hard earned money over a 50 year period know a thing or two, bub.

FYI..I have also worked for the team as a pro photog. I already forgot more than you will ever know about this team. Gimme a break.

I will hit the lotto one day and buy a skybox. Lol

 

[OmerV]

My big question at this point is..

seeing how Jackson set the league on fire last season with his running out of pass formation..

are we going to incorporate that more into our offense?

are we going to run 4 receiver sets this year frequently?

Won't Zeke and the OL be able to open some gaping holes for Zeke and Pollard to exploit?

Will we do that?

If we run 4 receiver formations..will the QB draw and sweep be run? If the secondary takes off for the endzone to cover..has to be huge gaps to run thru.

Jackson with the Ravens have made that Jackson's trademark. Can Dak do that? Will he do that?

Farve was a mobile QB and he won like crazy.

Rodgers was not and was more of a pocket passer.

The WCO is very different than what we have been trying to do.

McCarthy has some things to adjust to with this cast of characters. Moore probably helps but still..

Dak needs to take on a new personality in 2020.

Here's wishing his success for sure. Everything depends on him now.

What do you guys see?

Comments?

Dak is nowhere near what Jackson is as a runner. No current NFL starting QB is.

 

[Ranching]

It's always a concern, but Jackson does seem way better at protecting himself than Griffin. He seems to always have that in the back of his mind.

I bet to differ my friend, you can't play like he does with that in the back of your mind. He does do a good job of avoiding big hits, but that's got to be instinct.

 

[erod]

Didn't anybody recognize how slow Dak looked last year? He's aging like Aikman did.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jackson is a completely different type of athlete and his release is quick, when running. It’s the pocket, particularly the sideline routes that are inconsistent from what I remember from the play-offs. Yet to be seen if his style can work in the play-offs.

In fairness Jackson has been in the league only 2 season, I would hope for his own sake he will continue to work and develop his skills.

 

[glimmerman]

Dak is nowhere near what Jackson is as a runner. No current NFL starting QB is.

I wouldn’t want one. I think this year they will work on jackson staying in the pocket.

 

[OmerV]

I wouldn’t want one. I think this year they will work on jackson staying in the pocket.

I agree. Relying that much on your QB to run is a recipe for your QB to have a short career. I suspect he will still run a lot - that's too strong an element of his game to not capitalize on - but I agree that the emphasis may shift at least somewhat toward the pass.

 

[glimmerman]

Been saying it since 2016- QBs who rely on running will never succeed against good defenses. All they have to do is stay assignment sound and not get out of position and the scramblers/runners have nowhere to go.

Yes they do.. Down, they go down, hard if they don’t throw the ball away. Even running out of bounds is a gamble. Saw Dak take a big shot running out of bounds and looking down field and not paying attention. Some players will take the penalty to take the shot.

 

[khiladi]

In fairness Jackson has been in the league only 2 season, I would hope for his own sake he will continue to work and develop his skills.

Definitely.. if he can get better from the pocket, he’s going to be phenomenal difficult to defend..

 

[joseephuss]

Maybe if we had the fastest QB in the NFL like they do...lol. Dak has seemed to not run as much as he used too, maybe because he's in the "prove it" years contract wise?

Dak Prescott's stats:

2016
459 pass attempts
57 rush attempts

2017
490 pass attempts
57 rush attempts

2018
526 pass attempts
75 rush attempts

2019
596 pass attempts
52 rush attempts

Seems like the typical progression of a young QB. They increase in pass attempts as they get more comfortable in the NFL. His rushing attempts in 2019 aren't greatly lower than his first 2 seasons.

 

[DFWJC]

Jackson has zero come from behind wins. And exactly one 300 yards passing game. So there's that.

He's only started 22 games. But here are a few of their come from behind (or tied) wins with him at QB
They mostly demolished teams last year, so not much chance to comeback.

• Nov 18, 2018...Beat Cincy 24-21 after trailing 13-21
• Oct 6, 2019...Beat Pittsburgh 23-20 after being down 17-20 early in 4th.
• Dec 1, 2019...Beat San Francisco 20-17 on final play

Jackson skill set is unique to him and him alone. Trying to copy cat the Ravens would be beyond stupid.

So true

 

[Maxmadden]

It is a recipe for disaster.

You have a phenomenal talent at QB and by the time you have acquired and paid the contracts of the talent to surround him, he gets hurt. Then you are stuck trying to find a talented QB to replace him and meanwhile, you are stuck overpaying for the rest of the aging talent still on the team.

You can get the timing right and catch lightning in a bottle, but it is a gamble and not sustainable.

 

[blueblood70]

heck no you need a Jackson to do that and hows that helped them in the playoffs the last two seasons? curious how are they better then us as far as that goes , when it counts most? we dont have that at QB , daks more like Wilson and while they can run and move they arent Mike Vick types and rather throw.. sure dak needs to run more but I blame him he for sure was gun shy maybe its the lack of a LTD or what not but he himself stopped taking off as much.. far too often he gave the ball to someone else on RPOs and didnt do as many off schedule runs.. he just didnt .

 

[glimmerman]

I agree. Relying that much on your QB to run is a recipe for your QB to have a short career. I suspect he will still run a lot - that's too strong an element of his game to not capitalize on - but I agree that the emphasis may shift at least somewhat toward the pass.

I noticed that Dak quit taking off as much or it sure seemed that way last year. I think this is Jackson’s 3rd year so it’s getting close to time to get better at pocket work. He should be able to do it but as you mentioned its a strong element.

 

[glimmerman]

He's only started 22 games. But here are a few of their come from behind (or tied) wins with him at QB
They mostly demolished teams last year, so not much chance to comeback.

• Nov 18, 2018...Beat Cincy 24-21 after trailing 13-21
• Oct 6, 2019...Beat Pittsburgh 23-20 after being down 17-20 early in 4th.
• Dec 1, 2019...Beat San Francisco 20-17 on final play

So true

He has played 1 1/2 years and they are taking about paying him big bucks.