If a Dak deal isn't reached

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I've never heard of that before. I'm way up here in Utah and I have never seen that, but now I think I'll have a toke and drink a few beers! lol
Brother, the recipe was originally created in Mexico and with time has made its way up into Texas and other southern border states. You can use it on whichever beer you like to drink, or you can experiment taste on other beers. It's all up to the individual, but I'm telling you, this concoction tastes great! lol
 

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What I see from most fans, and I think Dak is going to play this year and play good, hopefully, but, really, it's you Dak fans that usually compare Dak to Romo. It like who has the bigger wiener. He did not lose his spot, he was given that spot from Garrett and Garrett is now gone.

Linehan as well... They had to keep Moore, because he’s the only one with any familiarity to what they run.
 

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It happens when people bring Dak down but hold Romo up. They've both accomplished the same. Dak just has a chance to surpass any accomplishment. Also, who else can we properly compare to? They both played under same coaches and almost same rosters. Romo did it better, he was also more experienced.

That's why I don't have a dog in this race...if Dak is our QB, so be it. I will root like hell for him...just wish the comparison with Romo would just stop...Romo is gone, he did what he did, now it's time for Dak to shine.
 

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It happens when people bring Dak down but hold Romo up. They've both accomplished the same. Dak just has a chance to surpass any accomplishment. Also, who else can we properly compare to? They both played under same coaches and almost same rosters. Romo did it better, he was also more experienced.

No, they didn’t. Garrett called plays when Romo was QB the majority of his career. The all pro line when Dak stepped played together for at least three years basically. That was the direction actually built by Romo. Frederick was basically a product of Callahan and Romo convincing Jerry, while the rest of the characters had Sharif Floyd on the board.

2013 onwards, with the new contract Jerry started pulling power away from Garrett including play-calling and giving it to Romo. Romo wasn’t even allowed in early game planning meetings until then.

The idiocy was in benching Romo when the pieces were finally around him. That was the real issue. He had a Zeke betting five yards a carry on first down and we had a QB who didn’t know how to check out of stacked boxes and attack man coverage outside for basically his whole careers. They wasted four years on this Dak experiment.

That’s the main issue. Romo bled for this team and the clown in charge. The problem with Romo was he was too happy to lucky and it took him the new contract to demand input into the offense and have Jerry pull some of the reigns from Garrett.
 

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And he moves on to another team are we going to have threads essentially blaming the "haters and trolls" and will the Dak supporters have open arms and support for the next guy? As ridiculous as these questions are I have to wonder based on what I've seen.

Dak will play this year he already signed the tag so he showed he intends on playing this season in Dallas. Beyond that his agent and the organization can continue to work on a longer term deal but for this year he will play on the tag unless they work out something before the July 15th deadline.
 

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I think Dak is an excellent Cowboys QB, and I’d like to see him here through another contract.
However, if Dallas moves on to another guy, or if he moves on from us, I’ll be okay with it.
My greatest fear is that the Dallas front office blew this by not extending Dak last year, by not signing him quickly, and that they are going to blow the entire situation. That foolishness leaves me with no confidence that they can find another QB and manage his salary.

I lost no sleep when Calvin Hill left for the Skins or when Emmitt left for Arizona. I will only lose sleep on Dak because regardless of what some fans say, he has value in the NFL, and the Cowboys have screwed this up so badly that they will either have to let him walk for nothing or trade him to a team that knows they have us over a barrel and screws us badly.

Jerry is either going to overpay or never get Dak’s value in return.
 

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What I see from most fans, and I think Dak is going to play this year and play good, hopefully, but, really, it's you Dak fans that usually compare Dak to Romo. It like who has the bigger wiener. He did not lose his spot, he was given that spot from Garrett and Garrett is now gone.
Nobody is comparing him to Romo. Just because you mention Romo and Dak in the same sentence doesn't mean you're comparing him. They are two totally different players. Always have been. How can you even compare a 11+ year pro to a guy who's only been in the league 4 years?

And yes he lost his spot. You're in denial.
 

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No, they didn’t. Garrett called plays when Romo was QB the majority of his career. The all pro line when Dak stepped played together for at least three years basically. That was the direction actually built by Romo. Frederick was basically a product of Callahan and Romo convincing Jerry, while the rest of the characters had Sharif Floyd on the board.

2013 onwards, with the new contract Jerry started pulling power away from Garrett including play-calling and giving it to Romo. Romo wasn’t even allowed in early game planning meetings until then.

The idiocy was in benching Romo when the pieces were finally around him. That was the real issue. He had a Zeke betting five yards a carry on first down and we had a QB who didn’t know how to check out of stacked boxes and attack man coverage outside for basically his whole careers. They wasted four years on this Dak experiment.
Where the heck do you get that Romo talked us into drafting Frederick? I’d love to see that evidence.
 

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I understand supporting him if he's good. But I probably should've said, will people accept him before he's even set foot on the field (let's say we draft a 1st round qb) and will they give him a chance to believe in him?


I think most fans are full of hope and optimism when a team drafts a highly regarded college prospect. Although there may be some that don’t believe in the QB based on their perceptions of how they played in college.
 

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And he moves on to another team are we going to have threads essentially blaming the "haters and trolls" and will the Dak supporters have open arms and support for the next guy? As ridiculous as these questions are I have to wonder based on what I've seen.
So, you started a thread designed to start the bickering now instead of waiting to see if that situation happens?
 

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Nobody is comparing him to Romo. Just because you mention Romo and Dak in the same sentence doesn't mean you're comparing him. They are two totally different players. Always have been. How can you even compare a 11+ year pro to a guy who's only been in the league 4 years?

And yes he lost his spot. You're in denial.

Yeah, I guess I am in denial. Who made the decision to have Romo lose his spot?
 

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Brother, the recipe was originally created in Mexico and with time has made its way up into Texas and other southern border states. You can use it on whichever beer you like to drink, or you can experiment taste on other beers. It's all up to the individual, but I'm telling you, this concoction tastes great! lol

OK, fool, I'm sending you my address and you WILL ship me a case of that!! lol
 

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No, they didn’t. Garrett called plays when Romo was QB the majority of his career. The all pro line when Dak stepped played together for at least three years basically. That was the direction actually built by Romo. Frederick was basically a product of Callahan and Romo convincing Jerry, while the rest of the characters had Sharif Floyd on the board.

2013 onwards, with the new contract Jerry started pulling power away from Garrett including play-calling and giving it to Romo. Romo wasn’t even allowed in early game planning meetings until then.

The idiocy was in benching Romo when the pieces were finally around him. That was the real issue. He had a Zeke betting five yards a carry on first down and we had a QB who didn’t know how to check out of stacked boxes and attack man coverage outside for basically his whole careers. They wasted four years on this Dak experiment.

That’s the main issue. Romo bled for this team and the clown in charge. The problem with Romo was he was too happy to lucky and it took him the new contract to demand input into the offense and have Jerry pull some of the reigns from Garrett.
No, they didn't what? Tell me what QB is easier to compare to than to QBs that played for the same team under the same coaches and with similar rosters, other than comparing if they both played during the same season. I can't compare Dak and Romo because they played with a few differences?
 

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No, they didn't what? Tell me what QB is easier to compare to than to QBs that played for the same team under the same coaches and with similar rosters, other than comparing if they both played during the same season. I can't compare Dak and Romo because they played with a few differences?

Complete differences, including the 31st ranked rushing attack in 2012, under Garrett’s last “official year” as OC, which also included bottom of the barrel in play-action usage. Romo had one year with Linehan officially. Garrett was never calling the plays with Dak and Linehan had Dak top 3 in play-action passing his first year, unheard of for Dallas and a completely simplified offense. Romo never saw so many stacked boxes and man on the outside in his life that Dak sees.
 

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That's why I don't have a dog in this race...if Dak is our QB, so be it. I will root like hell for him...just wish the comparison with Romo would just stop...Romo is gone, he did what he did, now it's time for Dak to shine.
Yessir, agree wholeheartedly.
 

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If no extension is accomplished, then in 2021 Dallas should sign Dak to the non-franchise tag, trade him for draft picks, and draft North Dakota State QB Trey Lance (a dual threat QB who is 6' 3" 225 pounds):

2019

192 completions 287 attempts 66.9 % comp % 28 TD's 0 Int's

169 rushes 1,100 yards 14 TD's

I'm not sure what you mean by the non franchise tag, but I like your idea. It's not that I don't like Dak, I just don't think he's worth that kind of cap hit with other alternatives available. He may be better than the alternatives at the moment, just not that much better.
 

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Complete differences, including the 31st ranked rushing attack in 2012, under Garrett’s last “official year” as OC, which also included bottom of the barrel in play-action usage. Romo had one year with Linehan officially. Garrett was never calling the plays with Dak and Linehan had Dak top 3 in play-action passing his first year, unheard of for Dallas.
Are you kidding me? Dak played with a similar roster as Romo did in 2014. He played with almost the same roster with the ones in 2015 and clearly outperformed Cassel, Weeden and Moore. How hard is it for you to compare QBs that literally had the same offensive coordinator and almost the same lineup in 2014 and 2016? Romo outperformed Dak. Are you really forgetting Romo's best year in 2014!?
 

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Are you kidding me? Dak played with a similar roster as Romo did in 2014. He played with almost the same roster with the ones in 2015 and clearly outperformed Cassel, Weeden and Moore. How hard is it for you to compare QBs that literally had the same offensive coordinator and almost the same lineup in 2014 and 2016? Romo outperformed Dak. Are you really forgetting Romo's best year in 2014!?

Of course Romo outperformed Dak. The point is, Romo only played with Linehan as OC one year in reality. And Dak had Zeke and in 2015, Murray was gone.
 
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