A part of the Dak Negotiation that wasn't discussed much

[cern]

Wow, I can’t believe the owners and their expensive lawyers failed to put a force majeure clause in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I was pretty confident the season would happen, but if the Players Association doesn’t agree to add one now I don’t see how the season can go forward. Way too much financial risk for the owners. They need better lawyers.

Leaving it deliberately vague was a stroke of genius. There is a reason the law is not black and white.

 

[OGCowboy]

Like I’ve stated before....JJ is a whale, big time gambler. That’s how he’s made his money. He sees the deck growing cold. He’s standing no push on his stack. Smart playa in my opinion.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, looks like this subject matter is ok. Thread is still up. No, I don’t believe the possibility of not having a 2020 season impacted in such a way over not wanting to accept 4 years.

It might have impacted not having a greater sense of urgency in getting a deal done. Maybe they weren’t as motivated.

The bigger questions I have is what are the effects if we don’t have a 2020 season. Will this year count towards the life of the contracts? Or push forward a year. It probably is an unknown at this time.

And I expect us to at least attempt a season even if it’s postponed or cancelled which could mean the season even if partial will count towards the life of a contract.

 

[JBS]

It absolutely had an impact...like him or not, if you think JJ is not an extremely fwd looking person and covering his backside during uncertain times you are sadly mistaken. Vatto wouldn’t have the bank he has if that was the case...

This is nothing but pure speculation. Every single report that came out suggests otherwise, so I'll listen to the people who actually know what's going on

 

[OGCowboy]

This is nothing but pure speculation. Every single report that came out suggests otherwise, so I'll listen to the people who actually know what's going on

That’s cool...listen to all the “reports” you want. Seems the general narrative flows with a force everywhere these days. It’s all good. I was stating my opinion. Isn’t that what this forum is for? My assumption is that opinions are still optional.

 

[JBS]

That’s cool...listen to all the “reports” you want. Seems the general narrative flows with a force everywhere these days. It’s all good. I was stating my opinion. Isn’t that what this forum is for? My assumption is that opinions are still optional.

They are. You are free to voice your opinion.

 

[NotForLong]

Another poster brought this up in another thread, and it's an interesting aspect of Dak's negotiation that doesn't seem to have been discussed much, but it's not unreasonable to wonder if, without the threat of the season not taking place at all, the Cowboys would have taken the 5th year off the table and signed Dak. As it is they may have worried that if the 2020 season isn't played that with a 4 year contract they would have effectively only had Dak committed for 3 seasons.

It's probably a waste of key strokes for me to write this, but if all you have for this thread is something like "Jerry just screwed it all up", or "Jerry just decided Dak sucks", or "Dak doesn't want to play in Dallas" please let it go in favor of some discussion on this topic. Obviously there was a desire to get a deal done, whether 4 or 5 years, or the two sides wouldn't have held out the possibility of a deal until the deadline.

Cowboys insisted on 5 years because they knew it was a sticking point and that France would never agree to it

 

[TwoCentPlain]

@OmerV Would you put 1/3 down on a car you could not drive for a year or a house you could not live in for a year, knowing that there is a good chance the price may be cheaper the following year.

Revenue will be down. Cap may go down. Who knows what will happen. I would have waited too.

 

[kskboys]

Cowboys insisted on 5 years because they knew it was a sticking point and that France would never agree to it

If that's true, then Francis might be the worst agent in pro sports.

 

[OGCowboy]

@OmerV Would you put 1/3 down on a car you could not drive for a year or a house you could not live in for a year, knowing that there is a good chance the price may be cheaper the following year.

Revenue will be down. Cap may go down. Who knows what will happen. I would have waited too.

TY for simplifying an old mans thoughts....

 

[Diehardblues]

If that's true, then Francis might be the worst agent in pro sports.

Yea, I don’t buy that.

 

[HellCrowe]

This is assuming that for a whole year, the FO, Dak, and the NFL knew something was going to stop the season. Minus the past 3-4 months, what you’re concluding is a gentleman’s agreement? Lol Grasping at thin air.

 

[kskboys]

Yea, I don’t buy that.

An agent's job is to get whatever makes the client happy. I blame this clusterfudge on Dak. I don't feel as if Dak's side even attempted to get anything done. Sure didn't seem that way.

And Dak is now making 31 this year when he could've been making 35. Just makes no sense.

 

[OGCowboy]

I believe that JJ, being the gambler he is, adjusts on the fly during questionable times especially unprecedented times. We’ll see, maybe I’m wrong about the ol Razorback....

 

[Buzzbait]

By now..
It's pretty obvious both sides are happy.
More happy would be better. Just not now.

We must wait and see what is going to happen to this season.
My bets are it will be scrapped.

The NFL actually does need a pre-season now if only to know if what they have in place will work.

Cranking everything up with a season that may end immediately if an entire team goes into quarantine which is likely..

just seems a waste of money to me.

Hey..maybe the NFL wants some big write offs and wants the loss going forward.

I think you're wrong Red. Baseball and Basketball are up and running, the NFL isn't going to be the first sport to turn tail and run. They can take enough safety precautions just like the other sports are doing.

 

[Buzzbait]

An agent's job is to get whatever makes the client happy. I blame this clusterfudge on Dak. I don't feel as if Dak's side even attempted to get anything done. Sure didn't seem that way.

And Dak is now making 31 this year when he could've been making 35. Just makes no sense.

Yup. He keeps settling for less while more was available with just a signature.

 

[kskboys]

Yup. He keeps settling for less while more was available with just a signature.

2nd year in a row. He's either dumb and greedy or he simply wants out of Dallas. Nothing else makes any sense.

 

[Diehardblues]

An agent's job is to get whatever makes the client happy. I blame this clusterfudge on Dak. I don't feel as if Dak's side even attempted to get anything done. Sure didn't seem that way.

And Dak is now making 31 this year when he could've been making 35. Just makes no sense.

Yea, we really haven’t got the whole story yet.

In the end it’s up to Mgmt to get their guy signed. It’s very unusual when teams can’t eventuality come to an agreement. And we all know QB’s are overpaid to some extent. Some teams simply make an offer they can’t refuse.

I heard he wanted 37 for 4 years. To me if we offered 35 we could have gotten a little closer. And if we’d done it before the Mahomes deal Dak could have been highest paid probably satisfying his ego.

So while Dak was stubborn we weren’t aggressive or flexible enough. In the end what’s a couple million more if you’re likely to pay it or more next year. And why media bashed us.

 

[Diehardblues]

2nd year in a row. He's either dumb and greedy or he simply wants out of Dallas. Nothing else makes any sense.

That’s possible.

A big part of the problem is our frikin owner big blabber mouth always touting our talent. The All In, we’re totally sold he’s our guy is just an awful tactic if you’re intent on playing hardball standing firm on an offer which implies if you don’t accept you can walk.

Maybe Dak didn’t feel the love in the end after all of the praising. Especially after we showed the love to Elliott and Cooper.

 

[Buzzbait]

Yea, we really haven’t got the whole story yet.

In the end it’s up to Mgmt to get their guy signed. It’s very unusual when teams can’t eventuality come to an agreement. And we all know QB’s are overpaid to some extent. Some teams simply make an offer they can’t refuse.

I heard he wanted 37 for 4 years. To me if we offered 35 we could have gotten a little closer. And if we’d done it before the Mahomes deal Dak could have been highest paid probably satisfying his ego.

So while Dak was stubborn we weren’t aggressive or flexible enough. In the end what’s a couple million more if you’re likely to pay it or more next year. And why media bashed us.

Oh yeah I forgot, it's ALWAYS Jerry's fault no matter what. No matter what.