Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

[joseephuss]

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...3777/pentagon-ufo-program-materials-vehicles/

Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

For years, the U.S. government has repeatedly changed its tune regarding its official involvement with UFO research.

As recently as February, a Pentagon spokesperson told Popular Mechanics that, while a government program did investigate unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and other unexplained aerial phenomena for some time last decade, funding dried up in 2012. But when Popular Mechanics thoroughly investigated the covert program, multiple sources said it’s still ongoing to this day.

Now, a new report in the New York Times confirms those accounts. The government’s UFO unit currently resides in the Office of Naval Intelligence, where it “deals with classified matters,” per the report, even though the unit itself isn’t classified. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force is meant to “standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of UAVs and publicly divulge “at least some of its findings” twice a year, according to the Times.

 

[Creeper]

If it went right there at the end I would say it could have been one of my drivers on a long par 4.

 

[cowboyec]

damn right they do.
spoiler alert...it wasn't a weather baloon that crashed at roswell.
spoiler alert...we didnt just go to the moon for some rocks,dust and a kick-*** view.

 

[Runwildboys]

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...3777/pentagon-ufo-program-materials-vehicles/

Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’

For years, the U.S. government has repeatedly changed its tune regarding its official involvement with UFO research.

As recently as February, a Pentagon spokesperson told Popular Mechanics that, while a government program did investigate unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and other unexplained aerial phenomena for some time last decade, funding dried up in 2012. But when Popular Mechanics thoroughly investigated the covert program, multiple sources said it’s still ongoing to this day.

Now, a new report in the New York Times confirms those accounts. The government’s UFO unit currently resides in the Office of Naval Intelligence, where it “deals with classified matters,” per the report, even though the unit itself isn’t classified. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force is meant to “standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of UAVs and publicly divulge “at least some of its findings” twice a year, according to the Times.

Actually, it states, "An astrophysicist who consulted on the UFO program confirms the government possesses materials from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Technically, that could mean iron from an asteroid.

 

[Stash]

Actually, it states, "An astrophysicist who consulted on the UFO program confirms the government possesses materials from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Technically, that could mean iron from an asteroid.

Would you classify an asteroid as a "vehicle"?

 

[Runwildboys]

Would you classify an asteroid as a "vehicle"?

I've heard the word used as anything that travels, not necessarily a mode of transportation. Whether it was used correctly or not, it could conceivably be being used that way. I'm not saying it is, but it seems more likely than having in our possession a ship that once belonged to a species advanced enough to travel light years through space, only to crash here, at a time when our civilization was just getting developed enough to understand what we were looking at.

 

[Stash]

I've heard the word used as anything that travels, not necessarily a mode of transportation. Whether it was used correctly or not, it could conceivably be being used that way. I'm not saying it is, but it seems more likely than having in our possession a ship that once belonged to a species advanced enough to travel light years through space, only to crash here, at a time when our civilization was just getting developed enough to understand what we were looking at.

OK. My definition of 'vehicle' has 'occupants'.

As in:

"a thing used for transporting people or goods"

 

[Runwildboys]

OK. My definition of 'vehicle' has 'occupants'.

As in:

"a thing used for transporting people or goods"

I've even heard used as a way of accomplishing something.

Or there's this:
4a : an inert medium (such as a syrup) in which a medicinally active agent is administered. b : any of various media acting usually as solvents, carriers, or binders for active ingredients or pigments.

Context is important, but I doubt very much that a credible person is saying the government has an alien ship in their possession.

 

[Stash]

I've even heard used as a way of accomplishing something.

Or there's this:
4a : an inert medium (such as a syrup) in which a medicinally active agent is administered. b : any of various media acting usually as solvents, carriers, or binders for active ingredients or pigments.

Context is important, but I doubt very much that a credible person is saying the government has an alien ship in their possession.

In this context, what do you think they're saying?

 

[Runwildboys]

In this context, what do you think they're saying?

Oh, I'm not necessarily saying this is the correct context, but I suppose it's possible they're saying they possess materials created in some type of liquid atmosphere. It seems unlikely, but as I said, it seems more plausible than the alternative.

 

[Stash]

Oh, I'm not necessarily saying this is the correct context, but I suppose it's possible they're saying they possess materials created in some type of liquid atmosphere. It seems unlikely, but as I said, it seems more plausible than the alternative.

OK, I'll disagree with you on this one.

 

[Runwildboys]

OK, I'll disagree with you on this one.

Really? We've been transmitting radio waves into space for what, 80 years? That means anyone who could detect those transmissions would have to live within 80 light years. Assuming that species somehow figured out how to travel at light speed, they'd have to live within 40 light years to have detected our transmissions and come to visit, if they were even interested. If they had that technology, I don't see them crashing here or being taken by force.

 

[Stash]

Really? We've been transmitting radio waves into space for what, 80 years? That means anyone who could detect those transmissions would have to live within 80 light years. Assuming that species somehow figured out how to travel at light speed, they'd have to live within 40 light years to have detected our transmissions and come to visit, if they were even interested. If they had that technology, I don't see them crashing here or being taken by force.

That hypothesis assumes that we all know all there is about science and physics and the laws space and time. The way I see it, we learn something new every day. Conversely, do you think that in the vastness of the universe, this is the only planet with intelligent life?

 

[Runwildboys]

That hypothesis assumes that we all know all there is about science and physics and the laws space and time. The way I see it, we learn something new every day. Conversely, do you think that in the vastness of the universe, this is the only planet with intelligent life?

Certainly not. I'm absolutely sure there's intelligent life out there, and probably some much more intelligent than us. But light is a constant speed, and the only way any other species could know about us is if they live nearby, or if they just happen to be passing through on their way to some other part of the galaxy or universe...and the odds of them randomly coming this close are....well, astronomical. Lol

 

[Stash]

Certainly not. I'm absolutely sure there's intelligent life out there, and probably some much more intelligent than us. But light is a constant speed, and the only way any other species could know about us is if they live nearby, or if they just happen to be passing through on their way to some other part of the galaxy or universe...and the odds of them randomly coming this close are....well, astronomical. Lol

Or if there are forms of travel that we have yet to discover or understand. That's my point. We always expect something to happen based on what we know at the time, otherwise, we simply consider it to be 'impossible'. Until tomorrow comes, and we once again learn something new, or something that contradicts what we thought we knew.

I am open-minded to the possibility.

 

[Runwildboys]

Or if there are forms of travel that we have yet to discover or understand. That's my point. We always expect something to happen based on what we know at the time, otherwise, we simply consider it to be 'impossible'. Until tomorrow comes, and we once again learn something new, or something that contradicts what we thought we knew.

I am open-minded to the possibility.

I recognize the possibility that another civilization has learned how to manipulate wormholes or warp bubbles, but even then, the only way they could know about us is for the radio waves from here to reach them, and that leaves a radius of about 80 light years, and there aren't many stars in that space.

 

[Stash]

I recognize the possibility that another civilization has learned how to manipulate wormholes or warp bubbles, but even then, the only way they could know about us is for the radio waves from here to reach them, and that leaves a radius of about 80 light years, and there aren't many stars in that space.

That sounds like another assumption, about radio waves. Maybe their awareness of us far predates the invention of radio? Or has nothing at all to do with that? You seem to want to proceed based on the belief that we humans know everything about everything when nothing could be further from the truth. Think about how much we've recently been able to learn about the universe, and how far, and then magnify that by a million, or a billion, or a trillion.

The possibilities are infinite.

 

[joseephuss]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150930110427.htm

Water reserves found on the moon are the result of asteroids acting as "delivery vehicles" and not of falling comets as was previously thought. Using computer simulation, scientists from MIPT and the RAS Geosphere Dynamics Institute have discovered that a large asteroid can deliver more water to the lunar surface than the cumulative fall of comets over a billion year period. Their research is discussed in an article recently published in the journal Planetary and Space Science.

It is possible words are chosen and used very carefully by people involved. The words in the title I copied and pasted from Popular Mechanics were worded to illicit a response from potential readers.

 

[Runwildboys]

That sounds like another assumption, about radio waves. Maybe their awareness of us far predates the invention of radio? Or has nothing at all to do with that? You seem to want to proceed based on the belief that we humans know everything about everything when nothing could be further from the truth. Think about how much we've recently been able to learn about the universe, and how far, and then magnify that by a million, or a billion, or a trillion.

The possibilities are infinite.

How much do we know about any planet outside our solar system? Very little. We can guess on the makeup of the planet, based on the light spectrum, but that's it.
If you want to talk about assumptions, you're assuming another species would even have any interest in visiting us, and not conquering us.

I just don't think it's likely that we've been visited, and less likely that if we have, the visitors left anything behind.

 

[Stash]

How much do we know about any planet outside our solar system? Very little. We can guess on the makeup of the planet, based on the light spectrum, but that's it.
If you want to talk about assumptions, you're assuming another species would even have any interest in visiting us, and not conquering us.

We examine animals in the wild all the time, as well as diseases, viruses, and microscopic organisms.We're not looking at them as friends.

I just don't think it's likely that we've been visited, and less likely that if we have, the visitors left anything behind.

Certainly not intentionally.