Dak disappointed in Garrett and Kitna being let go

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per former Cowboys coach, also Garrett not involved in Red zone play calling according to former coach

https://1053thefan.radio.com/articl...coach-thinks-dak-prescott-wants-out-of-dallas
So basically this told us the info came form Kitna and now he has been outed as the source.

Was 90% sure he was the source before this but now it's 100%

What is Dak suppose dot ell his former coaches?? "Yea, man you guys sucked balls and glad you're gone?" ROFL
Of course he said same thing he said about Dez release.
Sorry to see those guys move on.

This is another example of Dak being professional and clowns wanna use it against him because they are clowns.
 

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per former Cowboys coach, also Garrett not involved in Red zone play calling according to former coach

https://1053thefan.radio.com/articl...coach-thinks-dak-prescott-wants-out-of-dallas
I see no comments on Kitna being posted.

I never saw alot of comments about missing whatever he brought.

But seeing how Moore retained his job while Kitna lost his is confusing.

Many of us clearly saw the negative difference in Dak once Romo was no longer mentoring him.

Kitna I think filled that void.

Now he is gone.

Moore should have also been released but now with the virus changing the offense will take alot more time and Moore has increased his value.

Will Dalton take over where Romo once was?

So many issues.
 

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I see no comments on Kitna being posted.

I never saw alot of comments about missing whatever he brought.

But seeing how Moore retained his job while Kitna lost his is confusing.

Many of us clearly saw the difference in Dak once Romo was no longer mentoring him.

Kitna I think filled that void.

Now he is gone.

Moore should have also been released but now with the virus changing the offense will take alot more time and Moore has increased his value.

Whatever.

Linehan completely simplifying the offense and solid protection, and not taking chances, is what made Dak what he was in 2016, not Romo being there. Along with the fact Zeke and the RG were unstoppable, which is amply attested to in the amount it play action they ran. Also the fact that Cole Beasley was a safe route, but teams saw this and began doubling him in 2017.

Dak is just who he is..
 

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Linehan And solid protection, and not taking chances, is what made Dak what he was in 2016, not Romo being there. Along with the fact Zeke and the RG were unstoppable. Also the fact that Cole Beasley was a safe route, but teams saw this and began doubling him in 2017.

Dak is just who he is..
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Dak has needed more help every year and the results have been marginal.

I think this continues to be a defining issue in signing him from the team point of view.

To fix it, you have to add defensive players and begin to not spend on offense.

Dak is going to start reversing his talent then and to expect more winning would seem against logic.
 

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Maybe you need do a little research on what is considered a dropped pass in the NFL. Before going any deeper in specifics it says a drop is any pass under the same conditions that a receiver would normally catch. Your passes behind or 2-3 feet over the head are just listed as incomplete passes because under the same conditions a receiver normally would not catch those either.
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Well giko I said that because I just watched the whole season again minus the first 3 games, and I only saw about 5 drops , that I would classify as
drops. And people here say dallas led the league in dropped passes, so something is off.
 

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Dak fails to allow for the fact that businesses owners routinely criticize players during their bargaining for the sole purpose of lessening their demands. Taking it personally is a mistake that leads to problems of coming to a satisfactory contractual agreement. H-m-m, so that's how that came about! o_O
 

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Kitna, imo, has always come across as a class individual. Not one to bad mouth former employers . And he would know such comments pertaining to dak would be hurtful to the qb and his relationship to the cowboys organization and his teammates. Broaddus, on the other hand is a disgruntled former employee who doesn't care.
 

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First, theses comments don’t do anything to show the Cowboys have given up on Dak. Again, history proves you wrong, and if that were the case why would they not just go with Dalton and save $31 million for other players.

Second, it doesn’t matter who you would pay. The Cowboys aren’t asking you.

Third, the Cowboys have averaged 10 wins per season with Dak, not 8.

Fourth, some of the great QBs in history have fared no better than Dak their first 4 seasons, so history doesn’t support the notion that a player’s entire career is defined by his first 4 seasons. NFL teams are aware of this, and all they can go by is their own evaluation.

......FIFTH, when given the opportunity to make Dakota the future face of the Cowboys, they balked
 

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......FIFTH, when given the opportunity to make Dakota the future face of the Cowboys, they balked
They didn’t retract their offer, they disagreed on the length of contract, and they were the ones wanting the longer contract. You know that. That’s not a balk, that’s a failure of two sides to agree
 

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Maybe it is just like that, and the problem is all fixed now. Or maybe the issue in Dallas is something else. We’ll hopefully see soon enough.

I am under no illusion that MM is going to be the savior and get this team over the hump, he may very well fail to do it just like Garrett failed to do it. And if that happens, MM will be replaced just like Garrett was replaced. Only difference is that MM probably is not going to get 10 years to try.

In fact, I would be surprised if MM finishes his 4 year contract out if he doesn't at least reach the NFCCG, a feat Garrett failed to do in 10 yrs of trying.
 

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Tony gave his all for the team, some stinkers of games, some great ones, and to me but for a D that could shut down the opposition before halftime and could end a game could have taken us to the NFC championship game and possibly beyond.

He will go down along with Danny White who did get us to NFC championships as a part of the missed opportunities over the last 20+ years of the Jones era.

Jimmy J was a godsend and would have in all likelihood added to the ring count if he had stayed. He certainly would have gotten the one Switzer won.



I don't think Johnson would have done any better than Switzer for the same reason - the cap started and much of the really good depth at most positions that Johnson and Switzer relied on was gone because of that cap. The Cowboys were in cap hell the day it started and continued until about 3 or 4 years ago.
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Well giko I said that because I just watched the whole season again minus the first 3 games, and I only saw about 5 drops , that I would classify as
drops. And people here say dallas led the league in dropped passes, so something is off.




Well when you become a statistician and those who determine drop passes for the NFL then you can have some say in what passes are drops and what ones are not, but until then we, meaning you too, have to go by what they say and last year they said as a receiving corp the Cowboys had the most drops. You're sounding just like the fans who think they are coaches and GM's except you think you make the calls on drop passes.
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Well when you become a statistician and those who determine drop passes for the NFL then you can have some say in what passes are drops and what ones are not, but until then we, meaning you too, have to go by what they say and last year they said as a receiving corp the Cowboys had the most drops. You're sounding just like the fans who think they are coaches and GM's except you think you make the calls on drop passes.
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I do make the calls for myself, and that is why I dont care about stats , most of the stats have serious flaws.
That is why Aikman started his own stats and ratings, in an effort to be more efficient.
Stats dont really mean much, especially season stats.
I do look at game stats, they tell a story, but are also flawed.
 

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I am under no illusion that MM is going to be the savior and get this team over the hump, he may very well fail to do it just like Garrett failed to do it. And if that happens, MM will be replaced just like Garrett was replaced. Only difference is that MM probably is not going to get 10 years to try.

In fact, I would be surprised if MM finishes his 4 year contract out if he doesn't at least reach the NFCCG, a feat Garrett failed to do in 10 yrs of trying.

I would, too. But the thing is, I want to fix the things in Dallas that are keeping good coaches from getting farther in the playoffs. The conviction that the issues have been the HCs app this time means we’re ignoring the actual issue. And each time the HC turns over people buy into it for at least four more years.

The issue hasn’t been the coaching. It hasn’t even been the QB.
 

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I do make the calls for myself, and that is why I dont care about stats , most of the stats have serious flaws.
That is why Aikman started his own stats and ratings, in an effort to be more efficient.
Stats dont really mean much, especially season stats.
I do look at game stats, they tell a story, but are also flawed.




And just what stats and ratings did Aikman start?
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And just what stats and ratings did Aikman start?
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http://www.aikman.com/AikmanEfficiencyRatings.aspx
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/13/sports/tv-sports-in-numbers-game-aikmans-add-up.html
In August 2004, on the Web site NFL.com, Aikman petitioned the league to change its ranking system. He reasoned, for example, that in the previous season, the Vikings had the top offense based on yards but did not lead the league in points, first downs, rushing or passing yards, or third-down efficiency. He noted that the Ravens' defense in 2000 was one of the best but that Tennessee's was the top ranked because it allowed the fewest yards.

Soon after, Aikman; Rick Odioso, a statistician for Fox Sports; and Jim Henzler, a senior analyst for Stats Inc., created the Aikman Efficiency Ratings (the A.E.R.'s), which embrace seven statistics in five categories that Aikman says offer a truer picture of offensive and defensive prowess. Aikman posts the weekly ratings and a column on the Web site msn.foxsports.com.
 

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ok here are aikmans final season ratings for all teams, looking at this , I think he needs to work on his formula some more lol.

2019 End of Season Aikman Efficiency Ratings

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Rank Record Team Combined Off Def Off Def Combined
1 14-2-0 Baltimore Ravens 173.4 98.7 74.7 2 4 6
2 12-4-0 New England Patriots 167.9 82.1 85.8 15 1 16
3 13-3-0 San Francisco 49ers 163.9 88.1 75.8 4 2 6
4 8-8-0 Dallas Cowboys 163.0 92.6 70.4 1 9 10
5 10-6-0 Minnesota Vikings 162.2 87.1 75.1 16 14 30
6 13-3-0 New Orleans Saints 161.9 92.0 69.9 9 11 20
7 12-4-0 Kansas City Chiefs 160.7 90.1 70.6 6 17 23
8 9-7-0 Philadelphia Eagles 157.8 87.4 70.5 14 10 24
9 13-3-0 Green Bay Packers 157.6 86.1 71.5 18 18 36
10 10-6-0 Buffalo Bills 156.6 80.2 76.4 24 3 27
11 9-7-0 Tennessee Titans 156.0 88.9 67.1 12 21 33
12 7-9-0 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 154.7 82.3 72.4 3 15 18
13 11-5-0 Seattle Seahawks 154.2 87.8 66.4 8 26 34
14 7-9-0 Indianapolis Colts 153.2 84.9 68.2 25 16 41
15 9-7-0 Los Angeles Rams 151.9 84.3 67.7 7 13 20
16 7-9-0 Denver Broncos 148.2 74.8 73.5 28 12 40
17 7-9-0 Atlanta Falcons 147.6 82.4 65.2 5 20 25
18 8-8-0 Chicago Bears 146.9 75.0 71.9 29 8 37
19 8-8-0 Pittsburgh Steelers 146.2 67.8 78.4 30 5 35
20 10-6-0 Houston Texans 146.1 87.5 58.6 13 28 41
21 5-11-0 Los Angeles Chargers 145.6 79.6 66.0 10 6 16
22 6-10-0 Cleveland Browns 143.4 80.2 63.2 22 22 44
23 3-12-1 Detroit Lions 143.0 81.5 61.5 17 31 48
24 7-9-0 Oakland Raiders 142.0 82.1 59.9 11 19 30
25 5-10-1 Arizona Cardinals 141.1 81.8 59.3 21 32 53
26 4-12-0 New York Giants 140.8 77.3 63.5 23 25 48
27 7-9-0 New York Jets 139.2 67.9 71.3 32 7 39
28 6-10-0 Jacksonville Jaguars 138.1 75.6 62.4 20 24 44
29 5-11-0 Carolina Panthers 135.5 76.0 59.5 19 23 42
30 2-14-0 Cincinnati Bengals 135.1 71.7 63.4 26 29 55
31 3-13-0 Washington Commanders 132.5 72.3 60.2 31 27 58
32 5-11-0 Miami Dolphins 131.7 74.6 57.1 27 30 57

NFL Average: 149.9 81.9 68.0

2019 End of Season Offensive Aikman Efficiency Ratings

Aikman NFL Team AER
1 2 Baltimore Ravens 98.7
2 1 Dallas Cowboys 92.6
3 9 New Orleans Saints 92.0
4 6 Kansas City Chiefs 90.1
5 12 Tennessee Titans 88.9
6 4 San Francisco 49ers 88.1
7 8 Seattle Seahawks 87.8
8 13 Houston Texans 87.5
9 14 Philadelphia Eagles 87.4
10 16 Minnesota Vikings 87.1
11 18 Green Bay Packers 86.1
12 25 Indianapolis Colts 84.9
13 7 Los Angeles Rams 84.3
14 5 Atlanta Falcons 82.4
15 3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 82.3
16 15 New England Patriots 82.1
17 11 Oakland Raiders 82.1
18 21 Arizona Cardinals 81.8
19 17 Detroit Lions 81.5
20 24 Buffalo Bills 80.2
21 22 Cleveland Browns 80.2
22 10 Los Angeles Chargers 79.6
23 23 New York Giants 77.3
24 19 Carolina Panthers 76.0
25 20 Jacksonville Jaguars 75.6
26 29 Chicago Bears 75.0
27 28 Denver Broncos 74.8
28 27 Miami Dolphins 74.6
29 31 Washington Commanders 72.3
30 26 Cincinnati Bengals 71.7
31 32 New York Jets 67.9
32 30 Pittsburgh Steelers 67.8

NFL Average: 81.9

2019 End of Season Defensive Aikman Efficiency Ratings

Aikman NFL Team AER
1 1 New England Patriots 85.8
2 5 Pittsburgh Steelers 78.4
3 3 Buffalo Bills 76.4
4 2 San Francisco 49ers 75.8
5 14 Minnesota Vikings 75.1
6 4 Baltimore Ravens 74.7
7 12 Denver Broncos 73.5
8 15 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 72.4
9 8 Chicago Bears 71.9
10 18 Green Bay Packers 71.5
11 7 New York Jets 71.3
12 17 Kansas City Chiefs 70.6
13 10 Philadelphia Eagles 70.5
14 9 Dallas Cowboys 70.4
15 11 New Orleans Saints 69.9
16 16 Indianapolis Colts 68.2
17 13 Los Angeles Rams 67.7
18 21 Tennessee Titans 67.1
19 26 Seattle Seahawks 66.4
20 6 Los Angeles Chargers 66.0
21 20 Atlanta Falcons 65.2
22 25 New York Giants 63.5
23 29 Cincinnati Bengals 63.4
24 22 Cleveland Browns 63.2
25 24 Jacksonville Jaguars 62.4
26 31 Detroit Lions 61.5
27 27 Washington Commanders 60.2
28 19 Oakland Raiders 59.9
29 23 Carolina Panthers 59.5
30 32 Arizona Cardinals 59.3
31 28 Houston Texans 58.6
32 30 Miami Dolphins 57.1

NFL Average: 68.0
 

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http://www.aikman.com/AikmanEfficiencyRatings.aspx
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/13/sports/tv-sports-in-numbers-game-aikmans-add-up.html
In August 2004, on the Web site NFL.com, Aikman petitioned the league to change its ranking system. He reasoned, for example, that in the previous season, the Vikings had the top offense based on yards but did not lead the league in points, first downs, rushing or passing yards, or third-down efficiency. He noted that the Ravens' defense in 2000 was one of the best but that Tennessee's was the top ranked because it allowed the fewest yards.

Soon after, Aikman; Rick Odioso, a statistician for Fox Sports; and Jim Henzler, a senior analyst for Stats Inc., created the Aikman Efficiency Ratings (the A.E.R.'s), which embrace seven statistics in five categories that Aikman says offer a truer picture of offensive and defensive prowess. Aikman posts the weekly ratings and a column on the Web site msn.foxsports.com.




Wow and yet none of the major sporting site uses it. The only sites that use something other than the same stats that have always been used is ESPN who made up the QBR. The New York Times msn.foxsport.com site from 2005 is a huge joke. Just to be sure I put www.msn.foxsports.com in by browser and what came up is warning that foxsport is not affiliated with msn. This website does not exit. Then it says to try to retype it and try again if you think you got this warning in error. I did retype it and got the very same warning again. I then put it in google and www.foxsports.com came up - no msn. There is a wikipedia that states back in 2004 microsoft and foxsport agreed that foxsport would be their sports portal but they aren't anymore. So now the only place that one can get Aikman's made up stats is on his own site.
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