Twitter: Todd France and CAA part ways

[CouchCoach]

Totally agree but that’s not the message our organization has been touting with regards to Dak. And why they are being criticized.

I am not criticizing them, I am applauding them for staying with the tag and not rolling over again. They still have all of the options, they've lost nothing.

I think the reason they are receiving the criticism is not because they didn't get it done but that with the amount of time and attention paid to this, they didn't get it done. And if the aholes could keep their traps shut and not try to commandeer the media so much, this wouldn't be such a deal. To me, It's a lot about nothing. This forum became obsessive with this BS and just played along with the Joneses and their little game.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What are you basing this on besides your thoughts ?

He wasn’t willing to this year. What will be different.

The Market is going to be higher with Watson and Jackson . QB salaries aren’t based on their status .

CBA.

You don't know that salaries for Watson and Jackson will go up. CBA and profits are going to impact salaries. There is really no question about that IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That’s all to be determined. We are then basically resting our future franchise qb on such. Not sure that’s a wise decision. Especially with new NFLPA agreement coming up in 2021 which has never decreased.

We've never had to deal with a pandemic season either. All of this is new territory.

 

[CouchCoach]

I guess I don't believe that whole "Time Ran Out" story. That deal was on the table for months and it wouldn't have taken long for CAA to get it done if Dak had said, do the deal. I think that whole thing was more about PR then anything but we'll know soon enough. If Dak sticks with France, then we know there was never any real truth to that rumor. If he doesn't, then maybe there was but honestly, do you stick with CAA then because how in the heck do you have confidence in an agency that bungles a negotiation so badly, regardless of France? How does that deal not get done, even with just a few hours on the clock? That deal was on the table forever. You know that both sides knew every single in and out of that deal for months. I just don't buy the whole, time ran out thing. Heck, Dak has Tom Condon's number at CAA. It's not as if Dak couldn't have called somebody else at CAA and said, "Hey, I can't get hold of France and Dallas has a deal on the table that I want to take. Lets do this!"

Just doesn't track with me Coach. To many holes in that story to me.

JMO

Agree, ABQ, that made no sense to me because both sides have done too many deals but this idea that Prescott was ready to roll to the team side but they didn't have time left to get the deal done is fantasy. The NFL isn't like Bed, Bath and Beyond, extending that expired coupon. They all know how it works.

 

[Diehardblues]

He's betting he will get a better offer from the Cowboys or be tagged at the new level or be free to seek employment elsewhere.

If it is true that time ran out and they couldn't get this done in time, chances are a deal gets done after this season without all of the drama.

Personally, I am glad a deal wasn't done and not just because I wanted him on the tag. I got really tired of all the crap they were playing in the media and that idiot son's announcements that "a deal is imminent" or "deadlines make deals". I have received less exposure to the idiot son than the idiot father and am already more tired of that empty suit. At least Booger can be entertaining at times. The son is a turd in the punch bowl.

If the Cowboys were hoping Daks performance this year would bring down his value they shouldn’t have resigned all of their stars, the 1st round pick on a WR, retained their OC and brought in a new HC.

Sounds to me like Jerry is running our franchise thru the eyes of fans again waiting on team success to validate over paying Dak to meet public perception since they can’t trust their own evaluations after 4 years. Lol

 

[gjkoeppen]

No, my math is not fuzzy at all. I think if he does that deal they never see the last year or maybe even two years of that contract because then, that contract works for restructure and that makes it much more attractive for the team. That's why the team wants the 5 year deal to begin with. I'm not confused here, I understand exactly why the Cowboys want a 5 year deal. So no.

How does restructuring his contract where the Cowboys end up paying more be beneficial for the Cowboys. Next if Prescott had signed that contract it would been against France's recommendations and probably would have meant a split so where is this automatic I got to renegotiate coming from. I think you think every player demands to renegotiate their contracts and the vast majority don't. I also think you think that when a teams decides to get an EXTENSION done to try to keep a player longer you lump those into players demanding to renegotiate. Your math is as fuzzy as you idea that there would have been an automatic demand to renegotiate.
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[ABQCOWBOY]

Agree, ABQ, that made no sense to me because both sides have done too many deals but this idea that Prescott was ready to roll to the team side but they didn't have time left to get the deal done is fantasy. The NFL isn't like Bed, Bath and Beyond, extending that expired coupon. They all know how it works.

Yep, they do.

 

[Diehardblues]

We've never had to deal with a pandemic season either. All of this is new territory.

Great. Now we’re risking the future and value of our franchise qb on that. Because after 4 years we aren’t able to have better evaluations without it. Thank goodness we have this situation to possibly bail us out. Lol

 

[CouchCoach]

CBA.

You don't know that salaries for Watson and Jackson will go up. CBA and profits are going to impact salaries. There is really no question about that IMO.

If the cap drops, so will the years of the contracts for QB's. Rumor was both of those players only wanted 3 year deals.

What I think is going to happen is the owners will have to eat some of that cap in a side agreement with the NFLPA.

 

[gjkoeppen]

We will see what Dak thought shortly. If Dak sticks with France, then we know the truth. If Dak sticks with CAA, then maybe it's true but either way you look at this, Dak has less money in his pocket this way, then he would have the other way IMO.

Chances are that Prescott's rights are still with CAA. France was employed by CAA with he became Prescott's agent and France was acting on behalf for CAA. Second with the way things unfolded for Prescott, nobody knows for sure, but he may have a bad taste in his mouth for both France and CCA and decide to fire everyone and go to a different agent altogether. Again nobody but Prescott knows this but it is a possibility.
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[ABQCOWBOY]

How does restructuring his contract where the Cowboys end up paying more be beneficial for the Cowboys. Next if Prescott had signed that contract it would been against France's recommendations and probably would have meant a split so where is this automatic I got to renegotiate coming from. I think you think every player demands to renegotiate their contracts and the vast majority don't. I also think you think that when a teams decides to get an EXTENSION done to try to keep a player longer you lump those into players demanding to renegotiate. Your math is as fuzzy as you idea that there would have been an automatic demand to renegotiate.
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What are you talking about? Dak was going to make more money, either way. There was never a situation where Dak was not going to make more money. The reason it's more beneficial to the Cowboys is because now you have more years to work with on the restructure and that helps the cap big time. That's why it's beneficial to the team. This entire "France" thing is nonsense. Who works for who here? Does France and CAA work for Dak or does Dak work for them?

The vast majority of teams who are dealing with stating QB contracts do restructure early if you have a young starting QB IMO. I don't know about every player but we aren't talking about every player. We are talking about Dak and QBs. So if you think the math is fuzzy, that's fine with me. I haven't been wrong about the entire Dak thing yet. Everything that I said would happen has happened, with the exception of the tag because I thought they would use the transitional tag, and I feel as if it's pretty easy to figure out. I'm not smarter then the next guy here. This was easy to see coming IMO.

But again, we'll see.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Great. Now we’re risking the future and value of our franchise qb on that. Because after 4 years we aren’t able to have better evaluations without it. Thank goodness we have this situation to possibly bail us out. Lol

I don't think we are risking much at all to be honest. But that's opinion on my part.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't think we are risking much at all to be honest. But that's opinion on my part.

That’s because you aren’t sold on Dak.

 

[gjkoeppen]

That’s all to be determined. We are then basically resting our future franchise qb on such. Not sure that’s a wise decision. Especially with new NFLPA agreement coming up in 2021 which has never decreased.

The old CBA was set to expire in 2021. The Current CBA signed this earlier this year doesn't expire until 2030. The TV deals expire in 2022.
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[ABQCOWBOY]

If the cap drops, so will the years of the contracts for QB's. Rumor was both of those players only wanted 3 year deals.

What I think is going to happen is the owners will have to eat some of that cap in a side agreement with the NFLPA.

I don't see that happening Coach. What I see happening is player salaries stay stagnant and future cap increases are leveraged. The result is that players salaries don't decrease, nor increase much for a few years. I don't see years changing though.

JMO

 

[CouchCoach]

If the Cowboys were hoping Daks performance this year would bring down his value they shouldn’t have resigned all of their stars, the 1st round pick on a WR, retained their OC and brought in a new HC.

Sounds to me like Jerry is running our franchise thru the eyes of fans again waiting on team success to validate over paying Dak to meet public perception since they can’t trust their own evaluations after 4 years. Lol

I don't think they are hoping that at all. They already admitted they failed Romo by not getting enough around him. What would they have to gain by setting Prescott up to fail?

I think this is all about the truth. The truth is what are their options? They lucked into Prescott, everybody knows that, just like they lucked into Romo. They know the names in that QB progression after Aikman better than we do. Prescott isn't great, he is a Tier 2 but they know they could do worse because they have.

At some point, the brain trust might have actually had a discussion about just what weapons Staubach and Aikman had around them. Show me the QB that delivers without the weapons.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Chances are that Prescott's rights are still with CAA. France was employed by CAA with he became Prescott's agent and France was acting on behalf for CAA. Second with the way things unfolded for Prescott, nobody knows for sure, but he may have a bad taste in his mouth for both France and CCA and decide to fire everyone and go to a different agent altogether. Again nobody but Prescott knows this but it is a possibility.
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Well, this is kinda what I said in another post earlier but again, time will tell. If Dak sticks with France, then we know this was on Dak IMO. If Dak sticks with CAA, then maybe it wasn't but still doesn't explain why CAA couldn't get a deal done if Dak really wanted a deal done and do you do that if you are Dak?

You are right thou, only Dak, CAA and the Cowboys know the whole truth IMO.

 

[Diehardblues]

CBA.

You don't know that salaries for Watson and Jackson will go up. CBA and profits are going to impact salaries. There is really no question about that IMO.

We can make some pretty good educated guesses Watson and Jackson contracts will surpass Wilsons.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That’s because you aren’t sold on Dak.

No. That's a slanted opinion on your part. It's not because I'm sold or not sold on Dak. It's because I don't believe in the idea that the team is screwed if we have to go find a QB. I believe the strength of this team is the OL. I have for many years so I'm not on the "Only Dak can take us to the Promise Land" train.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't think they are hoping that at all. They already admitted they failed Romo by not getting enough around him. What would they have to gain by setting Prescott up to fail?

I think this is all about the truth. The truth is what are their options? They lucked into Prescott, everybody knows that, just like they lucked into Romo. They know the names in that QB progression after Aikman better than we do. Prescott isn't great, he is a Tier 2 but they know they could do worse because they have.

At some point, the brain trust might have actually had a discussion about just what weapons Staubach and Aikman had around them. Show me the QB that delivers without the weapons.

So, what’s their plan without Dak. That has to be part of the equation when you risk drawing a line in the sand.

IMO Dak isn’t enough. He’s had the weapons that Troy and Roger would have done more damage with on offense although he hasn’t had the defenses. There is no perfect storm in Cap era.

We’ve seen what he is without it and with it. Neither are enough to win a championship. But does that really matter to our organization. Being relevant might be enough.

Again, my argument isn’t revolving around my opinion. It’s based on what our organization thinks.