So far looks like the majority agree with you.It shouldn’t be an argument at all, there’s a mathematical right and wrong answer. Those claiming it’s better to wait until the second TD to attempt the try are objectively incorrect.
Not everything is a matter of opinion.
It shouldn’t be an argument at all, there’s a mathematical right and wrong answer. Those claiming it’s better to wait until the second TD to attempt the try are objectively incorrect.
Not everything is a matter of opinion.
That math is based on thousands of data points. It's not 2+2=4It shouldn’t be an argument at all, there’s a mathematical right and wrong answer. Those claiming it’s better to wait until the second TD to attempt the try are objectively incorrect.
Not everything is a matter of opinion.
Good job keeping an open mind. Some are very quick to stay hardheaded.I was on the side of second score but after really understanding what the coaches are thinking i finally get it..
explanation they used and now i get is you go for it on the first TD so you then either have the successful conversion and now can win with a td and xpoint much easier , however if you dont have successful 2p conversion you now know you need two scoring drives
VS
waiting until the 2p conversion is needed for the win which is a longer shot then actually 2 scores given its the final play of the game and now you are desperate and they know its coming..
im being converted on the conversion analytic..
i was pissed they didnt go for the point to make it one score but i get it now
That math is based on thousands of data points. It's not 2+2=4
Going for it on the first one may have been the better choice (or not), but explain the mathematics you are talking about. Is there some mathematical explanation for why a 2 point conversion would have a greater chance of success the first time than the second?It shouldn’t be an argument at all, there’s a mathematical right and wrong answer. Those claiming it’s better to wait until the second TD to attempt the try are objectively incorrect.
Not everything is a matter of opinion.
I was on the side of second score but after really understanding what the coaches are thinking i finally get it..
explanation they used and now i get is you go for it on the first TD so you then either have the successful conversion and now can win with a td and xpoint much easier , however if you dont have successful 2p conversion you now know you need two scoring drives
VS
waiting until the 2p conversion is needed for the win which is a longer shot then actually 2 scores given its the final play of the game and now you are desperate and they know its coming..
im being converted on the conversion analytic..
i was pissed they didnt go for the point to make it one score but i get it now
Going for it on the first one may have been the better choice (or not), but explain the mathematics you are talking about. Is there some mathematical explanation for why a 2 point conversion would have a greater chance of success the first time than the second?
Disagree, any decision that you make that then makes it so you have to recover onside kick to win is a bad decision!The real world data is, but the statistical theory is a standard undergrad STATS 101 problem. Removing as many unknown variables from the equation as early as possible increases your odds of overcoming the deficit simply as a matter of opportunity.
Analytically that call was correct to go up 21 rather than 20. They just didn't execute just like we didn't lolQuestion, should Alt have tried their 2 point conversion? in the end their failed 2 point try cost them the game since they lost by 1.
There are other variables too though. For example, if you fail on 2 points after the first TD it may cause you to take risky chances on defense knowing you need to score twice, and also take risky chances on offense knowing you have to score quickly enough to get another possession. Fundamentals and smart decisions can be replaced by desperation.The two point try timing has no effect on success rate, however going for it after the first TD removes a previously unknown variable earlier in the game.
Down 15, you know you need either two or three scores depending on whether the two point try you will attempt at some point is converted. Statistically, your odds of winning go up if resolve that variable earlier as a matter of opportunity. If you fail the two point try, you want to know that information as early as possible.
Analytically that call was correct to go up 21 rather than 20. They just didn't execute just like we didn't lol