Horrible drafting = Bad Team

[coult44]

We could go back as far as you want, but let’s just go 3 years. This is why we are so horrible. In nobody’s universe is this drafting any good at all. This is one star in 3 years and only a couple of average starters.

Taco, Cheeto, J.Lewis, Switzer, Woods, Pollard, M.White (DB), C.Williams, D.Armstrong, Covington, M.White (QB), McGovern, Scarbrough, M. Jackson, Hill, J.Jackson, Wilson, Webber, Gallimore, Robinson, Anae, Dinucci,


Of course We did get CeeDee, LVE, and I think Diggs and Badass, will pan out. I might also throw Pollard down here, but he’s in the dog house because of his stupidity. LVE could also be on the bad list because he’s looking like a less healthy version of Sean Lee, and that’s a hard thing to do.

When you add bad drafting and the bargain basement Shopping in Free Agency together, it paints a great picture of why our favorite team is 1-3.

 

[Slick]

Dak was a steal and excellent pick. Bargain for 4yrs.

 

[Blackspider214]

Dak was a steal and excellent pick. Bargain for 4yrs.

Dak was a total accident just like Romo. Dak was drafted to be a 3rd string QB. It took a QB in front of Dak on the depth chart to get hurt and bump Dak to 2 so he got his shot when Romo went down. Just like Romo was stashed on the practice squad and was about to be cut before Quincy was arrested. he stayed on and relieved Bledsoe because he was so bad. One was not even drafted and the other was drafted to be stashed down the roster as a warm body. These are this regime's only 2 QBs they have that have been successful. Aikman was Jimmy's doing.

Drafting after the 3rd round is such a crapshoot. In rounds 1-3 over the last 5 drafts, this team is not good overall and it isn't even close. The last 5 years of drafting should be the core of this team from rounds 1-3. Name me that core and how they are helping? There isn't many at all and that is the huge underlying issue. They draft well enough to be an average team but not even close to build any core that can sustain any success. We still have not had back to back playoff seasons since what, 2006 and 2007?

 

[Slick]

Dak was a total accident just like Romo. Dak was drafted to be a 3rd string QB. It took a QB in front of Dak on the depth chart to get hurt and bump Dak to 2 so he got his shot when Romo went down. Just like Romo was stashed on the practice squad and was about to be cut before Quincy was arrested. he stayed on and relieved Bledsoe because he was so bad. One was not even drafted and the other was drafted to be stashed down the roster as a warm body. These are this regime's only 2 QBs they have that have been successful. Aikman was Jimmy's doing.

Drafting after the 3rd round is such a crapshoot. In rounds 1-3 over the last 5 drafts, this team is not good overall and it isn't even close. The last 5 years of drafting should be the core of this team from rounds 1-3. Name me that core and how they are helping? There isn't many at all and that is the huge underlying issue. They draft well enough to be an average team but not even close to build any core that can sustain any success. We still have not had back to back playoff seasons since what, 2006 and 2007?

I think the teams that take the best available player, vs a need tend to have a longer more successful winning cycle.

Drafting is a crapshoot at best. I tend to believe that the higher the pick, the more the pressure to hit a home run. What really happens is that you wind up focusing on a much smaller pool of talent, and don't have time spent looking at more players that could bring in more upside per dollar a few picks later.

 

[Zordon]

I started calling this stuff out in 2016 but nobody wanted to listen. The defensive drafting has been pitiful.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/wha...ensive-drafting-under-garrett-2011-16.356749/

 

[Clove]

Organizational chemistry has been missing for over 25 years and that's why we can't win. Jerry wants this guy, McClay wants this guy, the coach wants this guy, etc etc etc... If one guy, Mike McCarthy, for example, drafted all of his own players, brought in all of his players, we may see some cohesion. This 3-4 they're running is a mess, with NO REAL 3-4 LBs.

 

[reddyuta]

drafting defensive players with injury concerns on an already bad defense is the sign of hubris ,not going after good FAs to plug in gaping holes in the defense is te sign of Joneses not being serious about winning.

 

[CWR]

Dak was a total accident just like Romo. Dak was drafted to be a 3rd string QB. It took a QB in front of Dak on the depth chart to get hurt and bump Dak to 2 so he got his shot when Romo went down. Just like Romo was stashed on the practice squad and was about to be cut before Quincy was arrested. he stayed on and relieved Bledsoe because he was so bad. One was not even drafted and the other was drafted to be stashed down the roster as a warm body. These are this regime's only 2 QBs they have that have been successful. Aikman was Jimmy's doing.

Drafting after the 3rd round is such a crapshoot. In rounds 1-3 over the last 5 drafts, this team is not good overall and it isn't even close. The last 5 years of drafting should be the core of this team from rounds 1-3. Name me that core and how they are helping? There isn't many at all and that is the huge underlying issue. They draft well enough to be an average team but not even close to build any core that can sustain any success. We still have not had back to back playoff seasons since what, 2006 and 2007?

While we may have had other qbs rated higher and were fortunate to have them taken ahead of us Dak wasn't an accident.

You don't bring a guy in 4 times if you aren't interested and doing your homework. He was a well researched back up plan.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We could go back as far as you want, but let’s just go 3 years. This is why we are so horrible. In nobody’s universe is this drafting any good at all. This is one star in 3 years and only a couple of average starters.

Taco, Cheeto, J.Lewis, Switzer, Woods, Pollard, M.White (DB), C.Williams, D.Armstrong, Covington, M.White (QB), McGovern, Scarbrough, M. Jackson, Hill, J.Jackson, Wilson, Webber, Gallimore, Robinson, Anae, Dinucci,


Of course We did get CeeDee, LVE, and I think Diggs and Badass, will pan out. I might also throw Pollard down here, but he’s in the dog house because of his stupidity. LVE could also be on the bad list because he’s looking like a less healthy version of Sean Lee, and that’s a hard thing to do.

When you add bad drafting and the bargain basement Shopping in Free Agency together, it paints a great picture of why our favorite team is 1-3.

I don't look at every draft pick the same. I put premium in the first 2 and expect 3rd rounders to be competitive and contributors. it would be great to find an elite level player in rounds, 3 and below. that's a plus. when you look at our picks, we have picked well offensively. we tend to hit it in the first two rounds...but on defense like you said Taco, LVE, Chido, Gregory, Jaylon, Hill are have been misses and we also paid big contracts to Jaylon and Lawrence and neither have been any good since.....we have missed on all the premium draft picks. and we seem to hit it on the offensive side CeeDee (although early), Gallup, Dak, Zeke, Martin, seemingly now Wilson (not injured now), Shulz, etc...... not sure why we can't find defensive players.... and not only that, we missed on defensive coaches, we had Eberflus in house, trained and come through the ranks, so instead of keeping him, making him DC and making marinelli the symbolic defensive consultant, we let him walk and brought in Richard...how did that work out....

we are just incompetent in building a defense. and that starts with the owner/GM...he is a flashy guy. like flash and the organizational culture is focused on flash. we have no focus on the boring, lunch pale defense.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

We could go back as far as you want, but let’s just go 3 years. This is why we are so horrible. In nobody’s universe is this drafting any good at all. This is one star in 3 years and only a couple of average starters.

Taco, Cheeto, J.Lewis, Switzer, Woods, Pollard, M.White (DB), C.Williams, D.Armstrong, Covington, M.White (QB), McGovern, Scarbrough, M. Jackson, Hill, J.Jackson, Wilson, Webber, Gallimore, Robinson, Anae, Dinucci,


Of course We did get CeeDee, LVE, and I think Diggs and Badass, will pan out. I might also throw Pollard down here, but he’s in the dog house because of his stupidity. LVE could also be on the bad list because he’s looking like a less healthy version of Sean Lee, and that’s a hard thing to do.

When you add bad drafting and the bargain basement Shopping in Free Agency together, it paints a great picture of why our favorite team is 1-3.

But but but we have Will McClay picking winners for Jerry......

 

[dsturgeon]

Hill is in his 2nd year, and has been playing well.
Gallimore is a rookie
We don't know about Mcgovern yet
pollard was very good value
cheeto was not a bad pick

 

[Redline360]

Need to stop drafting players with known injuries.
Huge contracts for under performing(except contract year) players also crushed us

 

[Jipper]

4 weeks ago we were talking about how we might have just had the best draft in history and how great we had done with a few exceptions over the past five years....

 

[Sydla]

Go outside our bubble. Drafting has not been great but it's not been terrible. Look at our divisional rival if you want to see terrible drafting.

And no, our problems right now aren't the sole fault of poor drafting.

 

[jsb357]

Watt?

 

[LittleD]

We needed a strong manager/coach like a Belichick but, settled for mini-mouse McCarthy. He was let go from the Packers for a reason. We drafted poorly and then
overpaid marginal players who have locked us down for years to come. Nothing but tanking to get a new QB and trading Dak for picks can help this train wreck now!

 

[Aviano90]

Dak was a total accident just like Romo. Dak was drafted to be a 3rd string QB. It took a QB in front of Dak on the depth chart to get hurt and bump Dak to 2 so he got his shot when Romo went down

Moore went down in the 2nd or 3rd practice. Dak would have certainly won the back up spot from Kellen Moore, who was a career practice squad player and took an injury to Romo and being the 3rd option behind Romo to finally get his chance to step onto the football field. Dak wasn't drafted to be a 3rd string QB. He was drafted to become the back up, something we didn't have in 2015 when Moore was part of the failed QB carousel behind Romo.

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

drafting defensive players with injury concerns on an already bad defense is the sign of hubris ,not going after good FAs to plug in gaping holes in the defense is te sign of Joneses not being serious about winning.

JJ loves drafting projects with high picks so if he hits on one he can pat himself on the back and say "I told you so"...I thought the drought between SB 12 and 27 was a lifetime...This franchise isn't winning another as long as you have the Jones Twins buying the groceries...

 

[65fastback2plus2]

I started calling this stuff out in 2016 but nobody wanted to listen. The defensive drafting has been pitiful.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/wha...ensive-drafting-under-garrett-2011-16.356749/

Yup, and thats why I cant blame coaches. They inherited this mess, they didnt create it.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dak was a total accident just like Romo. Dak was drafted to be a 3rd string QB. It took a QB in front of Dak on the depth chart to get hurt and bump Dak to 2 so he got his shot when Romo went down. Just like Romo was stashed on the practice squad and was about to be cut before Quincy was arrested. he stayed on and relieved Bledsoe because he was so bad. One was not even drafted and the other was drafted to be stashed down the roster as a warm body. These are this regime's only 2 QBs they have that have been successful. Aikman was Jimmy's doing.

Drafting after the 3rd round is such a crapshoot. In rounds 1-3 over the last 5 drafts, this team is not good overall and it isn't even close. The last 5 years of drafting should be the core of this team from rounds 1-3. Name me that core and how they are helping? There isn't many at all and that is the huge underlying issue. They draft well enough to be an average team but not even close to build any core that can sustain any success. We still have not had back to back playoff seasons since what, 2006 and 2007?

Fans need to realize what you posted about Romo. Literally Romo was on the verge of being released that day or within a day.
However Quincey was not arrested. The team was notified he tested positive for MJ. And it was not the 1st failed test. He would have been suspended. So Bill cut ties, and that saved Tony. Tony was the 4th QB or maybe it was the 5th at the beginning of TC.

He was not arrested that I was aware of anyway.