Dalton's numbers aren't encouraging

[OmerV]

1. Zurlein won the Atlanta game with a phenomenal onside kick and then game winner.
2. Dalton engineered the comeback against the Giants. Prescott took 2 quarters off before starting the process of digging the team out of a hole. But Dalton finished it.

3. Maybe Dalton will be our Jim Plunket. He was as good as his supporting cast in Cincy. He's got a better supporting cast now......at least on offense.

Dalton took over with a lead against the Giants, and got a bigger lead after handing off to Zeke for a TD. Of course, it isn't his fault the defense didn't hold the lead, but the offense didn't hold onto it either.

As for "engineering" the comeback", that makes it sound as if he carefully crafted a precision passing attack when the reality is he threw a couple of passes that Gallup just made great plays on. Obviously he had to put the ball in a spot where Gallup even had a chance to make those plays, but it wasn't exactly a comeback that worked because it was so well engineered.

That all said, it probably looks like I'm knocking Dalton, and I really don't mean for it to seem that way. I'm thrilled he is the backup, and I think he gives us a real chance to win games while Dak is out. I'm just setting the record straight.

 

[Doomsday101]

Respectfully, all this Dalton talk is a moot point. This season is over

Dalton wont be the future QB of this team and neither will Rayne Dakota. The defense isn't ready to do squat this season.

The rebuild is in full swing and we will keep the good and hopefully put out the bad

It is your view the season is over, but saying the rebuild is in full swing? How so? Outside of dealing with injuries which is why some guys are playing now I have seen no moves that would indicate they are in a rebuilding mode of any kind. I take this as more your own wishful thinking but highly doubt any of it.

 

[CouchCoach]

He is not good under pressure. Defenses are going to sell out stopping the run and applying pressure around the LOS. Dalton has to able to make quick reads and get the ball out fast. I think he is playing with as good or better a supporting cast now than any time in his career. It's the defense that is going to kill the Cowboys. Playing from behind will not be a good situation for Dalton.

Yep, the Cowboys can scrap offensive strategy and focus on tactics.

And that OL is going to have a lot of stat hunting DL crashing it on pass plays. Dalton might be doing well not to be at the same hospital Prescott was in.

Dalton might get Rex Grossman Syndrome. I was the backup and making good dough, nobody said I had to actually play.

 

[DenCWBY]

As peeps in here have said before. Either QB, Dak or Dalton are not good enough to overcome a terrible defense, an inconsistent Oline and poor offensive and defensive play calling from the sideline. There has been no leadership from the sideline or players for that matter and why not, bcause ususally you have to be a consistently good player to lead.
There's no intensity or passion that I can see from any part of this organization to win.

 

[CouchCoach]

Respectfully, all this Dalton talk is a moot point. This season is over

Dalton wont be the future QB of this team and neither will Rayne Dakota. The defense isn't ready to do squat this season.

The rebuild is in full swing and we will keep the good and hopefully put out the bad

The words rebuild and Booger do not compute.

I think we will see a rebuild on the OL because of attrition.

 

[Aven8]

He just has to play within himself and complete routine passes, with an occasional spectacular play like he did last week. Just be a QB.

 

[CouchCoach]

As peeps in here have said before. Either QB, Dak or Dalton are not good enough to overcome a terrible defense, an inconsistent Oline and poor offensive and defensive play calling from the sideline. There has been no leadership from the sideline or players for that matter and why not, bcause ususally you have to be a consistently good player to lead.
There's no intensity or passion that I can see from any part of this organization to win.

There is no pressure to win. Hasn't been for some time. There is also no penalty for not winning.

 

[erod]

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

Before Sunday, Prescott took 7 total snaps from center this season with a lead in four games. When he got hurt, he was trailing again to the ding-dong Giants. Dallas won with Dalton at the helm.

And how can you credit Dak for that onsides debacle that largely got Quinn fired? Or that inexplicable drop in the end zone by Julio Jones on a perfect pass?

Dalton is not the be-all-end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but he did play for the cheapest franchise in the league and in the toughest division in football with Pittsburgh and Baltimore every year. He was running for his life with a far worse offensive line than even what Dallas is throwing out there these days.

It'll look different, but the team will still move the ball. You won't be seeing RPOs, and I'd suggest kicking Martin out to right tackle so Dalton can work from the pocket. Lots of quick passes early, with bigger shots later.

What Dalton lacks in youth and mobility these days, he can make up for in the red zone. I expect him to be much more effective throwing in tight coverage down there.

But the challenge will be the same. Outscore his craptastic defense.

 

[glimmerman]

I do not think that scoring average isn't going to have to be maintained.

The problem with this defense is that it's poor against the ran and pass, the other team can pick it's strength, they don't have to alter anything.

This season was captioned for me with Nolan celebrating with his guys on the sideline at holding the Giants to 34, with TD's called back.

glimm, when I watch this defense play, the words of the great Dick Enberg play in my head, "oh my".

It’s horrible. I expected a learning curve. And the players acted excited in the off season. But they are bad. And I don’t see it getting much better. Likely someone will loose there job. A few players looked better after the lashing they took but didn’t stop the worst team in the east from putting up 34.

 

[CouchCoach]

One thing I gotta say, it's never boring. Every offseason, we get about half the forum high on what the team could be and then they see what it really is but the one thing that overrides all of this is the fact this team cannot overcome these injuries.

Injuries are not an excuse but some teams are built to overcome them better than others through their coaching or roster building.

The Cowboys had 4 questionable areas of depth, OL, LB, CB and TE, and got hit at all 4. They finally got a good backup QB or we're talking the draft after 5 games.

However, one thing Dalton does have going for him is damned good skill positions. He's got playmakers if he can get them the ball where they can make plays.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dalton won’t look as good as Dak...but renewed balance in our offense may lead to better results.

I think so too. I Think Dak is a better player but I think more balance will bring better play calling as well.

 

[InTheZone]

If you simply look at his numbers and don't consider at all that maybe his situation then was worse than it is now also coupled with the idea that Dak is a product of having so many offensive weapons then I can understand some of the questions surrounding Dalton.

Maybe Dalton doesnt put up 300 yards in the 4th quarter, but I'm willing to bet Dalton has the offense looking more consistent while doing well quarter to quarter. Dalton also led a game winning drive vs having back to back game ending picks.

Only time will tell but I like our chances more with Dalton.

 

[glimmerman]

Before Sunday, Prescott took 7 total snaps from center this season with a lead in four games. When he got hurt, he was trailing again to the ding-dong Giants. Dallas won with Dalton at the helm.

And how can you credit Dak for that onsides debacle that largely got Quinn fired? Or that inexplicable drop in the end zone by Julio Jones on a perfect pass?

Dalton is not the be-all-end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but he did play for the cheapest franchise in the league and in the toughest division in football with Pittsburgh and Baltimore every year. He was running for his life with a far worse offensive line than even what Dallas is throwing out there these days.

It'll look different, but the team will still move the ball. You won't be seeing RPOs, and I'd suggest kicking Martin out to right tackle so Dalton can work from the pocket. Lots of quick passes early, with bigger shots later.

What Dalton lacks in youth and mobility these days, he can make up for in the red zone. I expect him to be much more effective throwing in tight coverage down there.

But the challenge will be the same. Outscore his craptastic defense.

Not gonna happen. Not even with this WR corps. And man they are good. If we had a 12 or even 15 ranked Defense we would be 4-1 or 5-0. This Offense with a beat up O-Line is playing well. But Nolan and or his scheme or the players or all of the above is just so much worse than I imagined.

 

[CouchCoach]

Before Sunday, Prescott took 7 total snaps from center this season with a lead in four games. When he got hurt, he was trailing again to the ding-dong Giants. Dallas won with Dalton at the helm.

And how can you credit Dak for that onsides debacle that largely got Quinn fired? Or that inexplicable drop in the end zone by Julio Jones on a perfect pass?

Dalton is not the be-all-end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but he did play for the cheapest franchise in the league and in the toughest division in football with Pittsburgh and Baltimore every year. He was running for his life with a far worse offensive line than even what Dallas is throwing out there these days.

It'll look different, but the team will still move the ball. You won't be seeing RPOs, and I'd suggest kicking Martin out to right tackle so Dalton can work from the pocket. Lots of quick passes early, with bigger shots later.

What Dalton lacks in youth and mobility these days, he can make up for in the red zone. I expect him to be much more effective throwing in tight coverage down there.

But the challenge will be the same. Outscore his craptastic defense.

He will have all the weapons he needs to do that. The question is will he have the time?

The point about him facing BAL and PIT every year is a valid one. He's used to being under the gun so none of this is new to him.

 

[phildadon86]

Respectfully, all this Dalton talk is a moot point. This season is over

Dalton wont be the future QB of this team and neither will Rayne Dakota. The defense isn't ready to do squat this season.

The rebuild is in full swing and we will keep the good and hopefully put out the bad

The fact you are even allowed to have a voice here after your posts after the injury is amazing to me. Whats even more amazing is that you have that picture as your signature and havent been banned. You're a disgrace of a human being.

 

[erod]

He's older and lessor now. It happens to all of us.

But he did have a very good and very clutch start to his Cowboys career vs the Giants. So good for him

He's 33.

Brady is 43. Brees is 41. Roethlisberger is 38. Rivers is 38. Fitzpatrick is 37. Rodgers is 36. Cousins is 32. Tannehill is 32. Wilson is 31.

If Dalton is not good, I won't use age as an excuse.

The key is a good beginning to this. He's got a quick arm and reads it well. I expect he'll play fine and move the offense, just not with his legs.

 

[InTheZone]

He is not good under pressure. Defenses are going to sell out stopping the run and applying pressure around the LOS. Dalton has to able to make quick reads and get the ball out fast. I think he is playing with as good or better a supporting cast now than any time in his career. It's the defense that is going to kill the Cowboys. Playing from behind will not be a good situation for Dalton.

Dalton made nearly all perfect throws under pressure to help win the game last week...

 

[erod]

He will have all the weapons he needs to do that. The question is will he have the time?

The point about him facing BAL and PIT every year is a valid one. He's used to being under the gun so none of this is new to him.

He throws a lot of short stuff, especially early. Always had to against those defenses in Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

He doesn't have the greatest arm, but he reads defenses well and he's accurate. Plus, he's a tough hombre. He used to drive OU nuts in college with half their talent. The kid had moxie.

Best backup quarterback in the league for sure. And he's playing for an opportunity next year to start somewhere.

He just needed out of that hell-hole that Joe Burrow now finds himself in.

 

[CouchCoach]

He's 33.

Brady is 43. Brees is 41. Roethlisberger is 38. Rivers is 38. Fitzpatrick is 37. Rodgers is 36. Cousins is 32. Tannehill is 32. Wilson is 31.

If Dalton is not good, I won't use age as an excuse.

The key is a good beginning to this. He's got a quick arm and reads it well. I expect he'll play fine and move the offense, just not with his legs.

He may be forced to use those legs to preserve his life. We are not the only ones that know how bad this OL is. The stat hunters will be coming for him with those 2 OT's out and a rookie C.

 

[phildadon86]

Dalton made nearly all perfect throws under pressure to help win the game last week...

Nearly. Minus the fumble and the would be pick 6 he almost threw.