Would You? Simmons to Cowboys

[CalPolyTechnique]

ESPN has the Cowboys bolstering its secondary by trading for Broncos safety Justin Simmons who’s a low-key star.

Broncos trade Justin Simmons to Cowboys
Dallas Cowboys get: S Justin Simmons
Denver Broncos get: 2021 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick

Two years ago, a struggling Cowboys team turned around its season by sending a first-round pick to the Raiders for Amari Cooper. The move was widely panned, but Dallas was right: The Cowboys were a much better team with Cooper on the field, they won the NFC East and they turned around what had been a struggling Dak Prescott.

Now, it's a flailing defense that needs to be fixed. The Cowboys haven't been interested in safety Earl
Thomas, but what they need is someone who can be stout against the run and solid in coverage. Trading for Simmons would be a bold move, especially given that they just lost Prescott for the season, but Dallas has enough to win the NFC East with Andy Daltonbehind center if it can get the secondary right. Team owner Jerry Jones and the front office also have shown an interest in trading for young stars they can sign to extensions, and Simmons would presumably be open to a significant extension on the sort of long-term deal the Cowboys favor.

Broncos fans would likely want to hold out for a Jamal Adams-sized package in return for their star safety, but that's just not realistic. Adams was two years away from free agency, while Simmons is already on his first franchise tag. The Broncos weren't able to come to terms on a contract extension before the season with the Boston College product, and with Simmons set to make $13.7 million on a second franchise tag against a $175 million cap next year, things aren't going to get any easier.

If Denver loses its next two games and falls out of the playoff race at 1-5, it will have to face facts. There's no sense in having Simmons play the second half of a lost season before letting him leave in free agency. Locking in a second-round pick gets the Broncos a better pick than a third-round compensatory selection, has that pick arrive a year early and allows general manager John Elway to spend in free agency without negating that would-be compensatory pick.

 

[baltcowboy]

ESPN has the Cowboys bolstering its secondary by trading for Broncos safety Justin Simmons who’s a low-key star.

Broncos trade Justin Simmons to Cowboys
Dallas Cowboys get: S Justin Simmons
Denver Broncos get: 2021 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick

Two years ago, a struggling Cowboys team turned around its season by sending a first-round pick to the Raiders for Amari Cooper. The move was widely panned, but Dallas was right: The Cowboys were a much better team with Cooper on the field, they won the NFC East and they turned around what had been a struggling Dak Prescott.

Now, it's a flailing defense that needs to be fixed. The Cowboys haven't been interested in safety Earl
Thomas, but what they need is someone who can be stout against the run and solid in coverage. Trading for Simmons would be a bold move, especially given that they just lost Prescott for the season, but Dallas has enough to win the NFC East with Andy Daltonbehind center if it can get the secondary right. Team owner Jerry Jones and the front office also have shown an interest in trading for young stars they can sign to extensions, and Simmons would presumably be open to a significant extension on the sort of long-term deal the Cowboys favor.

Broncos fans would likely want to hold out for a Jamal Adams-sized package in return for their star safety, but that's just not realistic. Adams was two years away from free agency, while Simmons is already on his first franchise tag. The Broncos weren't able to come to terms on a contract extension before the season with the Boston College product, and with Simmons set to make $13.7 million on a second franchise tag against a $175 million cap next year, things aren't going to get any easier.

If Denver loses its next two games and falls out of the playoff race at 1-5, it will have to face facts. There's no sense in having Simmons play the second half of a lost season before letting him leave in free agency. Locking in a second-round pick gets the Broncos a better pick than a third-round compensatory selection, has that pick arrive a year early and allows general manager John Elway to spend in free agency without negating that would-be compensatory pick.

I would keep all of my draft picks for next season. With the decreased salary cap and the pending franchise tag for Dak, we need to keep the picks to fill out our roster. Plus Simmons wants to get paid and has Dak’s agent.

 

[Typhus]

ESPN has the Cowboys bolstering its secondary by trading for Broncos safety Justin Simmons who’s a low-key star.

Broncos trade Justin Simmons to Cowboys
Dallas Cowboys get: S Justin Simmons
Denver Broncos get: 2021 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick

Two years ago, a struggling Cowboys team turned around its season by sending a first-round pick to the Raiders for Amari Cooper. The move was widely panned, but Dallas was right: The Cowboys were a much better team with Cooper on the field, they won the NFC East and they turned around what had been a struggling Dak Prescott.

Now, it's a flailing defense that needs to be fixed. The Cowboys haven't been interested in safety Earl
Thomas, but what they need is someone who can be stout against the run and solid in coverage. Trading for Simmons would be a bold move, especially given that they just lost Prescott for the season, but Dallas has enough to win the NFC East with Andy Daltonbehind center if it can get the secondary right. Team owner Jerry Jones and the front office also have shown an interest in trading for young stars they can sign to extensions, and Simmons would presumably be open to a significant extension on the sort of long-term deal the Cowboys favor.

Broncos fans would likely want to hold out for a Jamal Adams-sized package in return for their star safety, but that's just not realistic. Adams was two years away from free agency, while Simmons is already on his first franchise tag. The Broncos weren't able to come to terms on a contract extension before the season with the Boston College product, and with Simmons set to make $13.7 million on a second franchise tag against a $175 million cap next year, things aren't going to get any easier.

If Denver loses its next two games and falls out of the playoff race at 1-5, it will have to face facts. There's no sense in having Simmons play the second half of a lost season before letting him leave in free agency. Locking in a second-round pick gets the Broncos a better pick than a third-round compensatory selection, has that pick arrive a year early and allows general manager John Elway to spend in free agency without negating that would-be compensatory pick.

Simmons is a really good DB, but Im just not sure what we would be giving up, would have to look at his contract numbers as well.

 

[Plankton]

Love the player, don't love the price tag in terms of pending salary.

 

[CouchCoach]

Judging by their use of 2nd rounders on D, this looks fine.

 

[Flamma]

What year was Simmons drafted?

 

[Carson]

What year was Simmons drafted?

2016.

So he’s going to get paid wherever he lands

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

ESPN has the Cowboys bolstering its secondary by trading for Broncos safety Justin Simmons who’s a low-key star.

Broncos trade Justin Simmons to Cowboys
Dallas Cowboys get: S Justin Simmons
Denver Broncos get: 2021 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick

Two years ago, a struggling Cowboys team turned around its season by sending a first-round pick to the Raiders for Amari Cooper. The move was widely panned, but Dallas was right: The Cowboys were a much better team with Cooper on the field, they won the NFC East and they turned around what had been a struggling Dak Prescott.

Now, it's a flailing defense that needs to be fixed. The Cowboys haven't been interested in safety Earl
Thomas, but what they need is someone who can be stout against the run and solid in coverage. Trading for Simmons would be a bold move, especially given that they just lost Prescott for the season, but Dallas has enough to win the NFC East with Andy Daltonbehind center if it can get the secondary right. Team owner Jerry Jones and the front office also have shown an interest in trading for young stars they can sign to extensions, and Simmons would presumably be open to a significant extension on the sort of long-term deal the Cowboys favor.

Broncos fans would likely want to hold out for a Jamal Adams-sized package in return for their star safety, but that's just not realistic. Adams was two years away from free agency, while Simmons is already on his first franchise tag. The Broncos weren't able to come to terms on a contract extension before the season with the Boston College product, and with Simmons set to make $13.7 million on a second franchise tag against a $175 million cap next year, things aren't going to get any easier.

If Denver loses its next two games and falls out of the playoff race at 1-5, it will have to face facts. There's no sense in having Simmons play the second half of a lost season before letting him leave in free agency. Locking in a second-round pick gets the Broncos a better pick than a third-round compensatory selection, has that pick arrive a year early and allows general manager John Elway to spend in free agency without negating that would-be compensatory pick.

this defense is far from being average even with a saftey. there is more wrong with this defense....so getting a player on a franchise tag, giving up a 2nd, for 9 games and then ending up taging him or paying through the nose and having lost a second round pick....it would be foolish. no it would be down right stupid

its time to face reality. the truth and be real. this is what jones never likes to do unfortunatley until its too late and he makes drastic moves and drastic mistakes. go through this season with what we have, get injured players back. keep the second and if we still want him, then chase him in FA. with a 1st and 2nd, we should be able to got some defensive players and improve this DL.

 

[Carson]

this defense is far from being average even with a saftey. there is more wrong with this defense....so getting a player on a franchise tag, giving up a 2nd, for 9 games and then ending up taging him or paying through the nose and having lost a second round pick....it would be foolish. no it would be down right stupid

its time to face reality. the truth and be real. this is what jones never likes to do unfortunatley until its too late and he makes drastic moves and drastic mistakes. go through this season with what we have, get injured players back. keep the second and if we still want him, then chase him in FA. with a 1st and 2nd, we should be able to got some defensive players and improve this DL.

Im not too worried about giving up the 2nd for a proven safety in this league.

Im against that contract his going to get in a year when the cap down.

 

[Flamma]

2016.

So he’s going to get paid wherever he lands

Not another one of those. If Dallas traded for him and the rest of our d gets healthy, and by some miracle starts to play better, he'll want to break the bank.

 

[stilltheguru]

Hell no

 

[Creeper]

Simmons i a UFA after this year, He is making $11.4 million this year. The Cowboys would be on the hook for his salary for 11 games or $7.8 million against the CAP. But then they would have to sign him to a long term contract or eat a 2nd and 4th round pick so he can play 11 games?

I don't know the player that well, but since he is a UFA, and 2nd and 4th is too much. I would offer a 3rd and maybe a receiver like Ventell Bryant.

I am not against trading 2021 picks because it is going to be an odd year for the draft due to COVID restrictions. But I wouldn't give them away either. The Cowboys are not 1 player away from being a contender although a safety would help. With so many players out for the year they need to not trade away the future for the present.

 

[pgreptom]

The cap next year is going to $175. They'll have trouble fitting Dak under it, no way they trade for a safety.

 

[Proof]

love it. he's a stud, and if you're not drafting them (dallas doesn't), or developing them (lol), the price in trades has been astronomical as of late between jamal and minkah.

i'm still pretty sick that the we didn't even pretend to entertain courting honey badger.

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

No reason to give up draft picks for a player we won't resign.

 

[Stash]

I would keep all of my draft picks for next season. With the decreased salary cap and the pending franchise tag for Dak, we need to keep the picks to fill out our roster. Plus Simmons wants to get paid and has Dak’s agent.

I think you've summed things up very well.

The Cowboys have enough issues with their salary cap already. And they need each and every draft pick that they have in order to improve their obvious weak areas, as well as to attempt to replace bad contracts that they would like to get out of. The draft is where teams get their much-needed cheap labor. Trading away two top picks for the privilege of then having to pay a top-of-the-market contract is the total opposite of what this team should do.

 

[stilltheguru]

The cap next year is going to $175. They'll have trouble fitting Dak under it, no way they trade for a safety.

@Dre11 says we can sign whoever we want. Which one is it

 

[charron]

How about we draft a safety.

 

[xwalker]

Simmons is a really good DB, but Im just not sure what we would be giving up, would have to look at his contract numbers as well.

He requires a new contract.

He is on the tag this season at 11.44M.

It would be 13.73M to Franchise him next season but a team would likely agree to a new contract before trading for him; although he can't sign a new contract this year.

 

[CATCH17]

Don’t invest another dime into this season.