Does Dalton do anything better than Dak?

[5Stars]

I just laugh at people that say Dalton is more accurate. Dalton has years of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks and that's more accurate. Prescott's worst season is 11 and his best is 4. Prescott's completion percentage of passes of 20 and 40 yards is higher than Dalton and oh BTW last season until week 15 Prescott led the entire NFL for those, something Dalton never did. So just WHEN has Dalton been more accurate. Was in during his 5 winless tries in the playoffs?
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Well, at least he went to 5 playoff games. And Dak?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Your Prescott to Elliott handoffs make me laugh. If you were a former NFL coach or QB that said that I would tend to put more stock in that, but a fan wanting to sound like he is a coach, not so much.
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Why does it make you laugh? Do we all have to be former coaches to comment or just have an opinion? YOU...are a NFL former coach? How much stock should I put in yours?

 

[gjkoeppen]

He ran rpo's before. The difference in their ability to run is Dalton is not the big truck that Dak is, but they are very similar as far as speed and ability to extend with their feet. Dalton is a better passer than Dak.

Yet another wannabe coach that thinks Dalton is a better passer that Prescott yet actual numbers say it isn't so. Dalton has had seasons with 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks. Prescott's worst year he had 11 picks. Prescott has a better completion percentage of passes of 20 and 40 yards in fact until week 15 last season he led the entire NFL in that. Something Dalton never did. If Gallup hadn't made a couple of great athletic circus catches last week we would have seen that Dalton IS NOT more accurate then Prescott.
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[Typhus]

That would be a big drop off for the offense which is #1 currently by a large margin, crushing every other team in yards per game and 2nd only to Seattle in points scored.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team

You missed the point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Throw picks, get sacked, lose in the playoffs, fumble. All these things he does better than Dak.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Just read through some of the pages here...some people think we upgraded in a major way!

I can;t seem to find all these "upgraded in a major way" comments.

 

[gongjr]

I just laugh at people that say Dalton is more accurate. Dalton has years of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks and that's more accurate. Prescott's worst season is 11 and his best is 4. Prescott's completion percentage of passes of 20 and 40 yards is higher than Dalton and oh BTW last season until week 15 Prescott led the entire NFL for those, something Dalton never did. So just WHEN has Dalton been more accurate. Was in during his 5 winless tries in the playoffs?
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I get this thought, but its hard to compare QBs across teams. It's also very hard to use stats for things like accuracy, that's what film is for. We'll definitely find out though which should be interesting and give us a good market to measure Dak against.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Well, at least he went to 5 playoff games. And Dak?

Just like Dalton, it was a TEAM that got them there. Dalton for most of his career with the bengals had a better defense than what the Cowboys have had since Prescott got here. There offense was as good but he did have a top 5 receiver with A.J. Green.

Prescott and the Cowboys have gone to 3 playoff games in 4 seasons winning 1, Dalton 5 in 9 seasons and winning NONE. So in 5 more seasons Dalton and the begals got to 2 more playoff games oh and lost both. Teams can be proud of losing games if they are the bills being the ONLY team to ever go to 4 straight Super Bowls, but losing 5 playoff games in 9 years isn't a bragging point.
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[Aviano90]

A being your good ol ray of sunshine self I see!

Just taking a leak on your day as always.

 

[Redline360]

I do not expect Dalton to step right in and feel comfortable for at least another couple of games. Takes reps with the recievers to get on the same page especially quarteback change early season.

However once he gets rolling...
Better pure pocket passer
Better accuracy on short to medium passes / Hitting recievers in stride

 

[RS12]

Yeah. He takes up less of the cap.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Why does it make you laugh? Do we all have to be former coaches to comment or just have an opinion? YOU...are a NFL former coach? How much stock should I put in yours?

I'm not the one who is making comments like they are some kind of coach that has reviewed coaches film and broke down Prescott's handoffs.
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[gjkoeppen]

I get this thought, but its hard to compare QBs across teams. It's also very hard to use stats for things like accuracy, that's what film is for. We'll definitely find out though which should be interesting and give us a good market to measure Dak against.

I only have a question about what you said. Does watching film change an incomplete pass into a completed pass? I'm unsure how watching plays over changes how accurate a QB is. I do agree that we will see what happens but watching film doesn't change a QB's accuracy. Film can show if a receiver is running good or the right routes or if a player is making his blocks but changing QB accuracy not so much.
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[gjkoeppen]

I do not expect Dalton to step right in and feel comfortable for at least another couple of games. Takes reps with the recievers to get on the same page especially quarteback change early season.

However once he gets rolling...
Better pure pocket passer
Better accuracy on short to medium passes / Hitting recievers in stride

The why does he have seasons of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks if he so much more accurate?
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[cern]

i am not smart enough to make that determination after just over a quarter of football in relief of dak. the original question is a worthy one. but there hasn't been enough time to make an intelligent decision. i just see a lot of opinions.

 

[aikemirv]

Dak overall better athlete who can make plays with his feet by scrambling than passing on the run. Andy Dalton a better drop back in the pocket passer
who scrambles very little. Overall Dak better but Andy can be very good downfield passer. But far as better only as dropping back in pocket and getting
rid of the ball.

I am not even sure Dak is a better athlete - going by there combine numbers Dalton is a bit quicker.

Dak makes plays on the run because he is a big strong guy, not on athletic ability.

 

[aikemirv]

The why does he have seasons of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks if he so much more accurate?
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I don't think picks are a measure of accuracy, they are a measure of decision making, pressure and reading a defense as well as taking chances. We know that Dak is not normally a chance taker and that is the main reason he has low number of picks.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Dak has improved with his accuracy but he often throws behind receivers.

I agree and thats my point exactly. Dak does a great job of general accuracy, by which I mean throwing balls that are catchable. Where he struggles is that pinpoint accuracy, which is more hitting receivers in stride, throwing where they will be instead of where they are, etc.

The cowboys have transformed their receiving group into great route runners that can create space, and dak has thrived with that.

Andy dalton can make those precise throws. Now he tends to make poor decisions and forces passes into coverage too. Thats why I'm not sure ifbwhat we get in dalton is better or worse.

 

[Ranched]

Of course not silly wabbitt. Dalton did show plenty of positives.

He was mobile enough to escape pressure caused by our offensive line, and he also completed one of the most improbable plays you will see this season to set up a win.

Dalton/Gallup BOOM!

 

[5Stars]

Just like Dalton, it was a TEAM that got them there. Dalton for most of his career with the bengals had a better defense than what the Cowboys have had since Prescott got here. There offense was as good but he did have a top 5 receiver with A.J. Green.

Prescott and the Cowboys have gone to 3 playoff games in 4 seasons winning 1, Dalton 5 in 9 seasons and winning NONE. So in 5 more seasons Dalton and the begals got to 2 more playoff games oh and lost both. Teams can be proud of losing games if they are the bills being the ONLY team to ever go to 4 straight Super Bowls, but losing 5 playoff games in 9 years isn't a bragging point.
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That's right, and I find it totally ignorant when people try and compare a player on one team to that player on a different team. Now tell me, would Dak have taken the Bengals to 5 playoff games? How about if Dalton was here for the time Dak has been here would he have taken the Cowboys to 3 playoff games? How many would Dak have won with Bengals and how many Dalton won if he were to have been in Dallas.

Why people feel the need to try and do a comparison like this is ignorant, lazy and totally irrational.