Does Dalton do anything better than Dak?

[Proof]

There are a lot of teams that draft a QB to sit and learn for at least a year. Drafting a QB even high picks doesn't mean the previous starter is doomed that season. Look at what the packers did this year 1st pick Love. When a team just fires their starter without even considering having any kind of competition tells a lot about what they still think of that QB. Just how many of the vet QB's that were starters last season switched teams for 3 mil? Would a QB that was so accurate be gotten for a poultry 3 mil? You are right that accuracy is part of being a QB and Dalton twice led QB's in fumbles for a season and what did he do right off the bat, fumble. If you want to think Dalton is so accurate knock your socks off but the numbers don't back that.
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I share a similar opinion on Dalton as you, but he was released similarly to Ware. As a courtesy / favor at his request. He also reportedly chose the role and offer in Dallas over others to be in the DFW area. I’d imagine it was partly due to Corona.

 

[AbeBeta]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

At this point, he's certainly way better at walking

 

[CWR]

I just laugh at people that say Dalton is more accurate. Dalton has years of 14, 16, 17 and 20 picks and that's more accurate. Prescott's worst season is 11 and his best is 4. Prescott's completion percentage of passes of 20 and 40 yards is higher than Dalton and oh BTW last season until week 15 Prescott led the entire NFL for those, something Dalton never did. So just WHEN has Dalton been more accurate. Was in during his 5 winless tries in the playoffs?
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You're making the mistake of believing Ill go to bat for Dalton as a better QB than Dak, which I never said. Aside from that your comparing apples to oranges.

 

[CWR]

Dak is 4th in TD/Interception ratio in NFL history....his career completion percentage is 66% and a QB rating of 97.3
Dalton is 27th in TD/Int ratio and his career completion percentage is 62% and a QB rating of 87.6

what you said doesn't hold water in any way shape or form

Dear lord, the Dak fan boys can't handle anything that may resemble a slight on Dak. I listed Daltons supposed MO. We will see how it shakes out. Regardless Id rather have Dak.

 

[CWR]

I’d rather be a little less accurate and a little more Power throwing the football . I’ve already seen and floated to many times against the Giants. That’s nice for deep ball it’s not great for the outside passing game

Id also rather have the guy with the extra strength and mobility to navigate behind a crumbling oline. Hopefully Dalton gets the ball out faster to make up the difference. Im also hoping Dalton is better at putting the ball in front of his wrs and hitting them in stride. Dak has gotten better at this imo, but we still see his wrs reaching back quite a bit. All and all its very difficult for me to get a sense out of what to expect. A part of me believes we run a lot more and Dalton does an admirable job getting the ball out quick and on target. The other part thinks he wilts under the pressure of a collapsing pocket and we are unable to run.

 

[Bullflop]

Question: Does Andy Dalton do anything better than Dak?
Methinks Andy reads defenses and gets the ball out quicker than Dak ...
Every QB has his high and lows -- Dak's fine & dandy but no exception!

 

[RonnieT24]

I sincerely hope that Dalton is able to make use of his experience to keep this team humming on offense and I hope he has learned to take care of the ball better like Romo did when HE got to be this age. There is no argument to be made that he has done so to this point in his career because his INT percentage is higher and he has fumbled it 47 times losing 36 which works out to just shy of one every 3.75 games. Ironically Dak has fumbled more frequently, 34 times in 69 starts, but has only lost 21. His total works out to about one every 3.3 games. So Dak fumbles at a slightly higher rate but Dalton throws interceptions at a much higher rate. 2.7% to 1.7%. Again, the hope here is that he does less of all of the above now that he has matured.

 

[Bullflop]

Id also rather have the guy with the extra strength and mobility to navigate behind a crumbling oline. Hopefully Dalton gets the ball out faster to make up the difference. Im also hoping Dalton is better at putting the ball in front of his wrs and hitting them in stride. Dak has gotten better at this imo, but we still see his wrs reaching back quite a bit. All and all its very difficult for me to get a sense out of what to expect. A part of me believes we run a lot more and Dalton does an admirable job getting the ball out quick and on target. The other part thinks he wilts under the pressure of a collapsing pocket and we are unable to run.

Yup -- I'd say that covers the highs & lows of each QB to a "T." In the end, each has his good and lesser points to consider!

At year's end, it might be interesting to see which guy each of us prefers. Right now, it remains to be seen who we'd prefer!

 

[Bullflop]

If it turns out Andy does better than Dak, maybe we could switch Dak to playing MLB?! Silly me, for mentioning it!

 

[Jake]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

Is Dalton better? In reality, no. In DDS Fantasyland, yes.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

it has been mentioned that the offense will have to be tweaked to some degree now, like fewer if any RPO's, etc. With that, if certain plays are being pulled out, is there an opportunity to put more plays in that are Dalton's bread and butter? If so, what are they? What are his strenghts that can be played to? West Coast stuff?

He reads defenses better and is definitely more accurate.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The Dalton era is here.
Dalton is pretty much better in every phase of QB play compared to Prescott.
By the end of the season "Dak who" will be the slogan pertaining to Mr.Prescott!

 

[dsturgeon]

Is Dalton better? In reality, no. In DDS Fantasyland, yes.

Fantasyland. We will get to see who is the better qb with the dallas cowboys team. Until then, it is just an assumption.

Dak isn't the best qb of all time. I go back and forth.

 

[darthseinfeld]

He reads defenses better and is definitely more accurate.

On a lawn, yes

 

[Motorola]

I sincerely hope that Dalton is able to make use of his experience to keep this team humming on offense and I hope he has learned to take care of the ball better like Romo did when HE got to be this age. There is no argument to be made that he has done so to this point in his career because his INT percentage is higher and he has fumbled it 47 times losing 36 which works out to just shy of one every 3.75 games. Ironically Dak has fumbled more frequently, 34 times in 69 starts, but has only lost 21. His total works out to about one every 3.3 games. So Dak fumbles at a slightly higher rate but Dalton throws interceptions at a much higher rate. 2.7% to 1.7%. Again, the hope here is that he does less of all of the above now that he has matured.

 

[Motorola]

Regarding fumbles: Dalton had two really bad seasons among his last four in Cincinnati - 2016 with 9, 2019 with 8...but between those he had just 4 and 1.
His career average appears to be around 5 per season.
Like has been mentioned in some previous posts....hopefully his decade of experience in the league will have instilled a savviness to avoid egregious mistakes, and capitalize on good opportunities to get this team wins in these 11 games.

 

[Captain-Crash]

he walks and runs better.

 

[fansince68]

Dalton has had some very dak like years. I think daltons decline at least partially has to be attributed to the fact he had maybe the worst team in the league around him the past 3 to 4 years.

He should feel right at home with this defense and porous O line.

 

[khiladi]

@khiladi

Bro, this is the type of looks Dak has been seeing the past two years, allowing him to pad his stats. Deep looks, with man on the outside, are a dime a dozen in this offense.

And look at the impact of YOUR BOY CeeDee Lamb. All Andy did is give the quick look to force the safety in disguised cover-1 to go to him and Gallup had the complete isolation route was.

Any decent QB would be feasting with this talent. Romo was kicking his chops in the booth.

Also, I’ve been reading a lot of comments about how, if Andy can get the ball out quickly, we should be good, liked he’s some bus drivers. This dudes release is like half that of Dak’s and his decision making is already quicker, as evident per this last game. Dak is way more robotic. And he’s been in a West Coast offense, meaning that’s what he has been doing, plus he can launch it all over the field.

Even former Cowboys like Ware are basically straight up highlighting PASSING for Andy. They know Andy is a WAY BETTER PASSER.

I can’t wait for Monday night..

 

[khiladi]

That would be a big drop off for the offense which is #1 currently by a large margin, crushing every other team in yards per game and 2nd only to Seattle in points scored.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team

Situational stats clearly indicate our ‘points scores’ is in garbage time and Dak’s drop-off on stats is like the difference between East and West when the game is within 7 in the fourth, after all the stat-padding is done with and the opposing defense was playing soft.