The best quarterbacks drafted in the past decade

TheMarathonContinues

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History is not kind to teams drafting a quarterback 1st overall. Seems like they bust more than they succeed lately. Burrow seems to be breaking that curse though. Still early even on him though.
 

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Nobody knows this for sure, but I seriously doubt the Cowboys WASTE any picks in next year's draft on a QB. There are just way to many REAL needs on defense that have to be addressed.
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Whilst I agree we SHOULDN'T waste the pick on a QB I think we'll be forced to IF the Dak deal isnt signed by the time of the draft.
 

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Whilst I agree we SHOULDN'T waste the pick on a QB I think we'll be forced to IF the Dak deal isnt signed by the time of the draft.
Even then....I don’t think we have the 1st pick but maybe they address qb later on in the draft. I heard McCarthy was the qb guru but that’s looking like a bs title at this point.
 

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I don't know why Luck was not on your list, maybe he didn't make OROY or MVP but he was the best QB to be drafted in the last decade. Mahomes and maybe Wilson are ahead now. If Luck had better protection he would still be around and top 3 QB in the league.

Trevor and Luck are similar in a lot of ways. Trevor might not be as much of a mobile QB.

It doesn't matter, you get a chance, you take Trevor and by by Dak.
The chance to take a premier talent rarely happens so when it does you take it. There is always a risk of the guy being a bust but thats with any player and you just never know how they will perform at the next level. But without risk there is no rewards, in this league you can win anything playing it safe.
 

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No you trade that pick for more picks for the defense. Dak's staying.

Agree, however, IF Dak hasnt signed by the draft and there's a top 3 QB left would you:

a) Draft that QB and if the deal with Dak isnt signed with shop around either Dak or the draft pick?
b) Trade down our pick and increase the pick for a number of picks to enhance the defense?
c) Pick the best player (non-QB) left on our draft board.

I would say B), however, it'll depend on trust that the deal is close, looking at how France operates he could use the Cowboys decision to enhance his leverage.
 
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Nobody knows this for sure, but I seriously doubt the Cowboys WASTE any picks in next year's draft on a QB. There are just way to many REAL needs on defense that have to be addressed.
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They had a lot of needs on defense last year and they wasted a pick on WR last year that they didnt really need. Dont get me wrong I Iike Lamb but he was more of a luxury than a need.
 

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2011:Cam Newton (MVP)
2012: Russel Wilson (Hall of famer)
2013: (bad year)
2014: (bad year)
2015: (bad year)
2016: Dak Prescott (OROY)
2017: Patrick Mahomes (MVP)
2018: Lamar Jackson (MVP)
2019: Kyler Murray (OROY)
2020: (Too soon to Tell)


The best quarterbacks of the past decade have been athletic playmaking quarterbacks. Drafting Trevor Lawrence may be the dumbest mistake a franchise can make. Hopefully, Fields will be available with the cowboys draft pick:flagwave::flagwave:

Fields plays exactly like a bigger Russel Wilson with similar arm talent and an uncanny sixth sense for the deep ball.

Lawrence’s ceiling is a worse Andrew Luck. Someone who in his BEST season didn’t even have numbers better than Russel Wilson’s WORST season since 2015

2020 Justin Herbert - dude is phenomenal. Burrows been nice too but Herbert has been awesome.
 

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2020 Justin Herbert - dude is phenomenal. Burrows been nice too but Herbert has been awesome.

I hoped when MM was appointed (to virtually universal approval), he'd use this season to determine to evaluate what he had to go into next season with a guideline of how we wanted to play and what we needed.

The interesting fact about the QB's in the NFL is that none of the top 5 (Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers,Brady, Dak, Jackson, Brees, Watson), were the first QB picked in their draft.

Its how you evaluate college talent.
 

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I suppose the one aspect that cant be scouted is whether they can replicate their abilities at the highest level.

Yeah it really is a crap shoot. Look at the old Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf debate. These teams have a difficult time measuring things like intelligence, work ethic, heart and determination. All of the intangibles that make a player great. Hell everyone is huge, strong, fast ect. Its the intangibles that determine whether or not they can succeed at the next level.

Which is why it's also very difficult for many of us to imagine letting Dak walk, because its not a given he can be replaced.
 

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Not only is QB a difficult position to scout, highly drafted quarterbacks often go to poorly run teams with little talent who force young quarterbacks to play too soon.

If I could draft Lawrence or Fields I'd do it and tag/trade Dak. I think they both are tremendous talents and worth the risk. If I can't get one of those two then sign Dak.
 

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2011:Cam Newton (MVP)
2012: Russel Wilson (Hall of famer)
2013: (bad year)
2014: (bad year)
2015: (bad year)
2016: Dak Prescott (OROY)
2017: Patrick Mahomes (MVP)
2018: Lamar Jackson (MVP)
2019: Kyler Murray (OROY)
2020: (Too soon to Tell)


The best quarterbacks of the past decade have been athletic playmaking quarterbacks. Drafting Trevor Lawrence may be the dumbest mistake a franchise can make. Hopefully, Fields will be available with the cowboys draft pick:flagwave::flagwave:

Fields plays exactly like a bigger Russel Wilson with similar arm talent and an uncanny sixth sense for the deep ball.

Lawrence’s ceiling is a worse Andrew Luck. Someone who in his BEST season didn’t even have numbers better than Russel Wilson’s WORST season since 2015

This might be one of the most dishonest uses of statistics I have ever seen. He had played TWO seasons since 2015, and one of which he was coming back from a devastating shoulder injury so it was expected he would start slow (and he did) and if he still had it finish strong (which he did). The sheer level of dishonesty to just ignore all of his best seasons because it doesn't jive with the narrative is just so blatantly dishonest that it blows my mind. It would be like me citing Jerry Rice stats and only using numbers since 2003.
 

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2011:Cam Newton (MVP)
2012: Russel Wilson (Hall of famer)
2013: (bad year)
2014: (bad year)
2015: (bad year)
2016: Dak Prescott (OROY)
2017: Patrick Mahomes (MVP)
2018: Lamar Jackson (MVP)
2019: Kyler Murray (OROY)
2020: (Too soon to Tell)


The best quarterbacks of the past decade have been athletic playmaking quarterbacks. Drafting Trevor Lawrence may be the dumbest mistake a franchise can make. Hopefully, Fields will be available with the cowboys draft pick:flagwave::flagwave:

Fields plays exactly like a bigger Russel Wilson with similar arm talent and an uncanny sixth sense for the deep ball.
Lawrence’s ceiling is a worse Andrew Luck. Someone who in his BEST season didn’t even have numbers better than Russel Wilson’s WORST season since 2015
I'm one who thinks Lawrence is overrated, but I don't know where you get the idea he isn't athletic. He ran for 563 yards and 9 TDs last year on top of the passing stats.

As for Andy Luck's best season not being as good as Wilson's worst season, it's hard to pick best and worst, but how about this ……

Luck's best season?
2018 - 4,593 yards (287.1/game), 39 TDs, 98.7 passer rating, 69.4 QBR

Wilson's worst season?
2016 - 4,219 yards (263.7/game), 21 TDs, 92.6 passer rating, 56.8 QBR

I don't say this to knock Wilson. He's a great QB with a lot of great seasons, and even his worst wasn't bad. I'm just pointing out you seem to have an agenda that doesn't include a fair view of the facts.

BY THE WAY, why did you decide on Luck as the comparison, and do you realize Luck was actually pretty athletic and having a very nice career?
 
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I hoped when MM was appointed (to virtually universal approval), he'd use this season to determine to evaluate what he had to go into next season with a guideline of how we wanted to play and what we needed.

The interesting fact about the QB's in the NFL is that none of the top 5 (Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers,Brady, Dak, Jackson, Brees, Watson), were the first QB picked in their draft.

Its how you evaluate college talent.
And that’s scary to me. But what al those qbs also have in common is that they didn’t go to bad teams....maybe you can argue Dak did since they were the 4th worst team in the league in 2015.....
 

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Dak didn't get greedy. Stop spreading lies. Dak was in agreement with the $35 mil/year offer. It was the length of the contract he was in dispute with, plus Jerry's refusal to include a "no tag" for the last year of the contract. By the time Dak had agreed to Jerry's final offer, time had run out, hence why Stephen and Dak afterwards agreed on a handshake that both were agreed to get the same final offer signed right after this season ends.

Sure, Dak is now relying on his broken ankle/lower leg to heal. By March, both Dak and the Cowboys will know whether it will heal fully or not. That's a whole month and a half before the Draft happens by the end of April. If Dak's injury shows signs of healing well and Dak is able to perform back to normal on it, expect Jerry and Stephen to offer Dak if not the same a slightly similar new contract offer with some safety clauses added just in case Dak reinjures that lower leg injury or if it suddenly starts bothering him in the future. If Dak's leg does not show good healing but takes longer to heal with it by March, Dak either will get franchise tagged once again or be allowed to shop his services elsewhere.
Where did you hear the handshake at the end of the year. They had a handshake at the beginning of the last year with his agent and the agent pulled the plug and made JJ mad. It’s the agents fault, Dak had to talk to JJ and SJ himself and they came to a agreement he would have signed and time ran out. I think they have a structure they agree on but 35 a year won’t get it now. His agent should have been fired after Dak had to do his job for him. Could have all been finished if his agent didn’t get greedy. Dak should have got involved after that.
 

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I would be absolutely stunned if Dak isn't here next season and Dallas tries drafting a QB in the 1st round. I just do not see it happening.
 
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