Zeke Advanced Efficiency Stats

[jwooten15]

The narrative that Zeke always faces a stacked box is untrue. The stats here prove it.

In 2020, he’s facing an average of 6.3 defenders in the box, per run. That average ranks 62nd among all running backs. Zeke faces an 8-man box only 12% of the time, which is the 39th most among all running backs. And against a stacked box, Zeke averages 2.0 yards per carry.

Zeke is average, at best. He’s not a home run threat anymore, and defenses know it.

So to all of the Zeke defenders out there: PLEASE, find a new argument to use, because the “he opens things up for the rest of the offense because he garners so much attention” angle is fake news.

 

[jwooten15]

And just for giggles, let’s compare Zeke to Dalvin Cook, by the same metrics.

Kind of embarrassing/scary, huh?

Cook faces a stacked box 35% of the time and still averages over 5 ypc. And don’t get me started on the drastic difference in big play capability between the two backs.

All of this doesn’t even start to mention the salary difference between the two. Cook just signed his extension at ~66% of the total $ value of Zeke’s contract.

That production margin is staggering.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The narrative that Zeke always faces a stacked box is untrue. The stats here prove it.

In 2020, he’s facing an average of 6.3 defenders in the box, per run. That average ranks 62nd among all running backs. Zeke faces an 8-man box only 12% of the time, which is the 39th most among all running backs. And against a stacked box, Zeke averages 2.0 yards per carry.

Zeke is average, at best. He’s not a home run threat anymore, and defenses know it.

So to all of the Zeke defenders out there: PLEASE, find a new argument to use, because the “he opens things up for the rest of the offense because he garners so much attention” angle is fake news.

EPA = -29.2 #164

Ouch! That's saying that he's *harming* the team, and by a lot.

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/stats-explained/expected-points-and-epa-explained

Defensive "men in the box" stats are meaningless w/o normalization for how many players the *offense* also has in the box.

 

[buybuydandavis]

And just for giggles, let’s compare Zeke to Dalvin Cook, by the same metrics.

Kind of embarrassing/scary, huh?

Cook faces a stacked box 35% of the time and still averages over 5 ypc. And don’t get me started on the drastic difference in big play capability between the two backs.

All of this doesn’t even start to mention the salary difference between the two. Cook just signed his extension at ~66% of the total $ value of Zeke’s contract.

That production margin is staggering.

EPA - #1 +36.3

 

[Beast_from_East]

The narrative that Zeke always faces a stacked box is untrue. The stats here prove it.

In 2020, he’s facing an average of 6.3 defenders in the box, per run. That average ranks 62nd among all running backs. Zeke faces an 8-man box only 12% of the time, which is the 39th most among all running backs. And against a stacked box, Zeke averages 2.0 yards per carry.

Zeke is average, at best. He’s not a home run threat anymore, and defenses know it.

So to all of the Zeke defenders out there: PLEASE, find a new argument to use, because the “he opens things up for the rest of the offense because he garners so much attention” angle is fake news.

Zeke is a shell of his former self, go watch Youtube videos of him his rookie year and compare that to him today.

Night and day difference. Dont know if its the mileage on him and he is wearing down or maybe he just decided to phone it in once he got paid.

 

[Cmac]

Can we get an OC efficiency or comparison too?

 

[DandyDon52]

Zeke is a shell of his former self, go watch Youtube videos of him his rookie year and compare that to him today.

Night and day difference. Dont know if its the mileage on him and he is wearing down or maybe he just decided to phone it in once he got paid.

no it is just he is a diva party boy who did not take his career seriously, and the jones boys in all their wisdom rewarded him like he was still that guy from 2016.
Elliott also has a big ego, he thought he was so good, he could not stay in shape, and just show up and play and still be great lol.

Meanwhile lesser guys who work hard, and take football career seriously have passed him up.
The jones boys made several mistakes,
1 not looking at his mental makeup in great detail.
2.letting him get away with showing up out of shape
3 extending him and making him the highest paid rb ever!!
4 using the # 4 pick in first place to take him, could have got a better value with
some other guys .Derrick henry was taken in round 2 cowboys could have had him.

I will say this ewok is still # 1 in a key area, lol GETTING PAID !!
He is better than any other rb in that stat lol

 

[Cmac]

The narrative that Zeke always faces a stacked box is untrue. The stats here prove it.

In 2020, he’s facing an average of 6.3 defenders in the box, per run. That average ranks 62nd among all running backs. Zeke faces an 8-man box only 12% of the time, which is the 39th most among all running backs. And against a stacked box, Zeke averages 2.0 yards per carry.

Zeke is average, at best. He’s not a home run threat anymore, and defenses know it.

So to all of the Zeke defenders out there: PLEASE, find a new argument to use, because the “he opens things up for the rest of the offense because he garners so much attention” angle is fake news.

…..I'm beginning to wonder if you been listening to someone else, too much? When all else fails, go with the eye test.....The plays called, the packages, missed blocks, now the QB out there, and the same OC on the sideline. And before you get started, no one is excusing fumbles. Next up: Why our WRs should be released....their numbers are definitely down now.

 

[Aviano90]

…..I'm beginning to wonder if you been listening to someone else, too much? When all else fails, go with the eye test.....The plays called, the packages, missed blocks, now the QB out there, and the same OC on the sideline. And before you get started, no one is excusing fumbles. Next up: Why our WRs should be released....their numbers are definitely down now.

The eye test shows Zeke sucks. He is a player that needs excuses because his performance is far below the perception of what he is supposed to be.

 

[aria]

@RonnieT24 What’s the excuse this time, we all know you have one. zeke had seasonal allergies that only effect ewoks? the blades of grass are only discriminatory against players with with a 2 and 1 on their jersey?

C’mon Ronnie, let’s hear it.

 

[John813]

Add in that 4 of the 5 olinemen were in the top 10 for run block wins too per espn

 

[Ranched]

Zeke's been in an avalanche since the beginning of the 2018 season & hasn't even reached the bottom of the hill yet.

 

[aria]

Add in that 4 of the 5 olinemen were in the top 10 for run block wins too per espn

Hey! Those stats don’t count, they don’t support zeke, they’re meaningless.

 

[aria]

Zeke's been in an avalanche since the beginning of the 2018 season & hasn't even reached the bottom of the hill yet.

 

[blueblood70]

…..I'm beginning to wonder if you been listening to someone else, too much? When all else fails, go with the eye test.....The plays called, the packages, missed blocks, now the QB out there, and the same OC on the sideline. And before you get started, no one is excusing fumbles. Next up: Why our WRs should be released....their numbers are definitely down now.

its insane to try and use 2020 stats to start dissecting payers right now..so ignorant without a threat at QB, horrible mash unit of an OL, an OC who has no clue how to integrate a run game even before we go down 2-3 scores and that leads me to no defense ie down so quickly the run game becomes moot..

the zeke haters always been bad but really this year they couldn't wait to jump on him while the TEAM is down..good try even 2019 where KM tried to kill zekes career, zekes played very well especially late in the year..

making any comparisons to him and other players whom are NOT IN ZEKES position right now , bring them here i bet they struggle as well..

fans are pitiful and shameful, get off it zekes here 1-2 more seasons so the threads are moot and have no validity.

get back a shell for that OL and a threat at QB before we end zekes career..

anyone comparing any of our skill players on offense right now with this mash unit around them is just finding a way to push narrative while they are down..

 

[acr731]

The narrative that Zeke always faces a stacked box is untrue. The stats here prove it.

In 2020, he’s facing an average of 6.3 defenders in the box, per run. That average ranks 62nd among all running backs. Zeke faces an 8-man box only 12% of the time, which is the 39th most among all running backs. And against a stacked box, Zeke averages 2.0 yards per carry.

Zeke is average, at best. He’s not a home run threat anymore, and defenses know it.

So to all of the Zeke defenders out there: PLEASE, find a new argument to use, because the “he opens things up for the rest of the offense because he garners so much attention” angle is fake news.

What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

 

[bigcheeze]

Zeke is a shell of his former self, go watch Youtube videos of him his rookie year and compare that to him today.

Night and day difference. Dont know if its the mileage on him and he is wearing down or maybe he just decided to phone it in once he got paid.

Probably both

 

[Montanalo]

Zeke's been in an avalanche since the beginning of the 2018 season & hasn't even reached the bottom of the hill yet.

But he can do "feed me" all the way down.

 

[Sydla]

…..I'm beginning to wonder if you been listening to someone else, too much? When all else fails, go with the eye test.....The plays called, the packages, missed blocks, now the QB out there, and the same OC on the sideline. And before you get started, no one is excusing fumbles. Next up: Why our WRs should be released....their numbers are definitely down now.

Denial, plain and simple. Zeke is not an elite back anymore.

 

[Sydla]

its insane to try and use 2020 stats to start dissecting payers right now..so ignorant without a threat at QB, horrible mash unit of an OL, an OC who has no clue how to integrate a run game even before we go down 2-3 scores and that leads me to no defense ie down so quickly the run game becomes moot..

the zeke haters always been bad but really this year they couldn't wait to jump on him while the TEAM is down..good try even 2019 where KM tried to kill zekes career, zekes played very well especially late in the year..

making any comparisons to him and other players whom are NOT IN ZEKES position right now , bring them here i bet they struggle as well..

fans are pitiful and shameful, get off it zekes here 1-2 more seasons so the threads are moot and have no validity.

get back a shell for that OL and a threat at QB before we end zekes career..

anyone comparing any of our skill players on offense right now with this mash unit around them is just finding a way to push narrative while they are down..

I am surprised to find you making excuses for a Cowboy.