Andy Dalton puts it to rest

khiladi

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Lol now Zeke fumbling is Dak’s fault.


Good god

Catering the offense to “Dak attack” to make Zeke a decoy and not the consistent runner who gets better a the game goes in is maybe not Dak’s fault, but it is a Organizational failure on every level. That being said, out of the plus THIRTY RPOs that were given to Dak, he chose RUN ONLY ONCE per the stats.
 

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With Dalton, they can draft a QB while developing tje young guy and the roster around him.


Yeah. Which is why it’s not good that the cowboys win because every game they win, the chances of landing a good QB prospect declines.

which is why I said. If you want Dak gone. The cowboys winning isn’t a good thing. Because it reduces the chances of it happening.
 

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Catering the offense to “Dak attack” to make Zeke a decoy is maybe not Dak’s fault, but it is a Organizational failure on every level. That being said, out of the plus THIRTY RPOs that were given to Dak, he chose RUN ONLY ONCE per the stars.


None of that excuses zeke for dropping the rock.

Zeke knows that. Let’s not make excuses for his fumblitis. Fumbles happen but he was fumbling way too much earlier in the season.
 

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Some fun facts for your Monday morning.

Dalton has 2 game winning drives late in the 4th quarter in the 3 games he has played in full as a Dallas Cowboys.

Dak has 1 ( which came after a historic onside kick vs the falcons ) in his last 20 games played in full as a Dallas Cowboy.

Additionally - With the game on the line down 1 score or less in the 4th quarter with under 5 minutes to play and with the ball in hand. Andy Dalton is 2/2 in game winning drives. Dak Prescott is 1/8 in the past 2 seasons.

This is not an attack on anyone, just pure facts on 2 guys who have played QB for us recently. Carry on.

Dak is below the league average for every NFL QB in QB rating in this department, but Dak-fans are in denial.
 

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He is the difference between what exactly?

No.. Winning regular season games isn't the goal. Winning championships is the goal.

Can we pay Dak and he actually carry a team on his back to a championship? It's obvious he can't and he relies on others.

Romo, a guy that is much more skilled than Dak and more of a playmaker, has nothing to show for his time here. But hey we made him rich and it was a lot of fun right?

I want titles.


Everyone wants Titles, unfortunatley there can be only one out of 32 to recieve this, again if you think Dak is the problem I can't logically help you....I can tell you this, 25 years has proved some things with this team and it starts and ends with our GM, I'm to the point now that it will be luck if he ever wins another one so why do I need to watch bad QB play as I'm watching him screw this thing up every year? Dalton had a good game against a bad D, that is not against Dalton, he did what he neede to and had a good game. Every time you say save some money at the QB position you are talking about a "Dalton" like player playing the position....that aint winning us Champoionships either....if you can't see the diference between the 2 QB's then again,I'm sorry but I can't help you as you don't want to see the facts so logically it's a conversation going nowhere.
 

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None of that excuses zeke for dropping the rock.

Zeke knows that. Let’s not make excuses for his fumblitis. Fumbles happen but he was fumbling way too much earlier in the season.

Zeke had had a career tendency to drop the rock early in the season. It is what it is. That doesn’t mean you ignore him and pad Dak’s meaningless stats.

it’s more than obvious that with more carries, you establish consistency as far as Zeke us concerned, or any player for that matter. That’s just realism.
 

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Its really that the dumb ones are the loudest I dont think they are the majority.......

I finished the night saying I wouldn't let them steal my joy of that game and I wont, I enjoyed watching the Cowboys win and Dalton have some good plays and Zeke get it going.....It was one of the few good times I have had this year during a Cowboys game. Hear is the thing, its now down to "it not his play, he is good he just wants too much money" when your a fan saying that about your QB you deserve how many years you get of JAG's that will be strolling through here if Dak leaves...no I told you so, no see this is why Dak was good..if your still pushing that idiocy...then waller in your JAG's that we are due after Romo and Dak fell in our lap.

Remember this feeling because the Thanksgiving game could be bad as that is a REAL D-LINE unlike the vikes, if we can hold this protection I will be impressed.
the squeaky wheel gets the grease. the whiniest child gets the new bike. so it is with certain posters. and your comment about the Commanders d-line is spot on. they will be tough.
 

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Still less than the would be 8 Dak should have thrown against Cleveland.. the one where Dak threw a game ending INT, unlike Dalton, to lose the game..
isn't that the same game when the defense had a chance to make a stop gave up a 50 yard run to a WR no less...hmmm,

don't even think this game was dalton, defense came through for a change and made crucial stops... Dalton drove the bus
 

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and these same people complained about Dak and the opposing CBs dropping interceptions...and chalked it up as Interception for him..

Dak has been top three in dropped INTs by QBs for the last couple of years. It’s his tendency.. every QB gets away with it once in awhile. Every QB throws behind their receivers once in awhile. Dak on the other hand is among the kings of this trait.

I also didn’t see Cooper disappearing on the road with Dalton as QB.. in fact, we all saw just how clutch he was in the fourth..
 

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isn't that the same game when the defense had a chance to make a stop gave up a 50 yard run to a WR no less...hmmm,

don't even think this game was dalton, defense came through for a change and made crucial stops... Dalton drove the bus

Driving the bus while going for three TDs in the red zone and 1 FG... sulk it up baby! Dalton knows how to drive the bus when the opposing defenses clamps down..
 

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Zeke had had a career tendency to drop the rock early in the season. It is what it is. That doesn’t mean you ignore him and pad Dak’s meaningless stats.

it’s more than obvious that with more carries, you establish consistency as far as Zeke us concerned, or any player for that matter. That’s just realism.


The point is. You’re blaming others for Zeke dropping the ball.

I don’t give a damn if he carries it 35 times or 10 in a game. He can’t fumble at the rate he was.

period.


I’m not arguing to use or not use Zeke more. It’s strictly about blaming other factors for him fumbling which is nonsense.
 

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He is the difference between what exactly?

No.. Winning regular season games isn't the goal. Winning championships is the goal.

Can we pay Dak and he actually carry a team on his back to a championship? It's obvious he can't and he relies on others.

Romo, a guy that is much more skilled than Dak and more of a playmaker, has nothing to show for his time here. But hey we made him rich and it was a lot of fun right?

I want titles.

I think Romo having "nothing to show for his time here" has little to do with paying him and a lot to do with who he was playing for. Sure, we needed better personnel, especially on defense, during a lot of his years, but I would love to have seen what someone like Sean Payton could have done with this team during some of the Romo years.
 

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for anyone interested in being logical, what this game really illustrates is that any viable NFL level QB can use the skill positions on this team to win when they have some competent Oline play and a defense that isn't a complete embarassment.

Exactly... the point is, we have wasted away this talent catering to a mediocre QB.
 

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Trust me it didn’t take the Dak delusionals long to get on their high horse.


What they couldn’t comprehend is that the Oline was so terrible that he never had a chance.

When we have protected him he’s got Dak like results.

The great Dak Prescott’s was a watermelon kick from starting the season 0-4.
all 200 yards of it (half time productin for Dak)...awsome....:thumbup:
 

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all 200 yards of it (half time productin for Dak)...awsome....:thumbup:

Dak's garbage time stats are nice and all but they don't mean anything really.

Again.. He's better than Dalton.

But neither guy is the difference between winning and losing a game. They depend on those around them.
 
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