Troy Aikman's comments on the draft last night

[Rockport]

Evaluating a franchise QB has always been difficult. That doesn't mean you shy away from drafting one just because it's "50-50 he'll be half as good."

Sure it does when you already have a franchise QB. One that has led the NFL in team offense the last 2 years.

 

[Kwyn]

Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

History shows that drafting a QB top ten is anything but a sure bet.

Take a look. How many “Elite” QB’s?

Only 3 have won a conference championship (Cam, Goff and Mahomes)

Only 1 has actually won a Super Bowl (Mahomes)

2020 - Burrow, Tua, Herbert
2019 - Kyler, Jones
2018 - Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen
2017 - Trubisky, Mahomes
2016 - Goff, Wentz
2015 - Jameis, Mariota
2014 - Bortles
2013 - None
2012 - Luck, Griffin, Tannehill
2011 - Newton, Locker, Gabbert

 

[dwreck27]

I find it absolute amazing folks on here are still worried about a new QB when the offense was playing on another level

the defense (and special teams) are awful... flat out need to be blown up and new players injected at all levels

 

[yentl911]

Ian Book - trade down for picks

that kid is going to be really good

 

[thunderpimp91]

History shows that drafting a QB top ten is anything but a sure bet.

Take a look. How many “Elite” QB’s?

Only 3 have won a conference championship (Cam, Goff and Mahomes)

Only 1 has actually won a Super Bowl (Mahomes)

2020 - Burrow, Tua, Herbert
2019 - Kyler, Jones
2018 - Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen
2017 - Trubisky, Mahomes
2016 - Goff, Wentz
2015 - Jameis, Mariota
2014 - Bortles
2013 - None
2012 - Luck, Griffin, Tannehill
2011 - Newton, Locker, Gabbert

Recent history looks very promising though. The last 5 years it seems you have a better than 50/50 chance at landing an average or better qb in the early first round. As the nfl continues to adopt more of a college style that transition gets easier for players and the evaluation process easier for scouts.

 

[tm1119]

If we can draft Lawrence or Fields, yeah you probably have to do it. But the likes of Lance or Wilson? No thanks, not worthy of a top 7 pick and walking away from a proven franchise QB.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I find it absolute amazing folks on here are still worried about a new QB when the offense was playing on another level

the defense (and special teams) are awful... flat out need to be blown up and new players injected at all levels

That’s the whole point though. It has nothing to do with dak being a good player. You need help on your o line and at all 3 levels of the defense. You’re already over the cap for next year if you bring dak back.

maybe their is a way to improve this team and spend big money on dak, but instead of actually having that discussion the issue just gets dismissed

 

[Denim Chicken]

Agree with this. Theres a coach who loves dak and his names Belichick. He voiced his views on him before last yrs game. Trade Dak for a top 10 pick. ReSign Dalton and draft Sewell and Wilson. You solve your cap issue and draft ur future LT and QB. You have a OL of Tyron|Sewell|Biadasz|Martin|Collins.

Then you have money to improve your defense. You have trade chips like Gallup. Most likely going to lose Gallup in 2022, might as well get something for him now and you still have Cooper Lamb and Wilson as your top 3 wrs.

There are going to be alot of teams that need a QB that arent getting the top 2 guys.

Patriots
Colts
Niners
Panthers
Saints
Bears
Broncos
Falcons

Dalton is not good, though. Even with a defense and the weapons we have on offense I don't think he has it.

 

[LatinMind]

Dalton is not good, though. Even with a defense and the weapons we have on offense I don't think he has it.

how can we judge when he has no time to throw. He's not Dak but he's not bad. Dalton makes plays but moore handicaps the scheme with his 4 play playbook. He did the same thing to Dak.

 

[blumayne38]

We have no shot at Lawrence. Any Lawrence talk is just hope-posting. Hopefully we're picking at 3 and one of those "other" QBs falls and someone is desperate enough to trade into our spot so we can parlay it into picks this year and next to help build the defense. We need defense period.

What if Lawrence absolutely doesn’t wanna play for the jets and demands a trade like Eli Manning? The jets would certainly not want a QB who doesn’t wanna play for them.

 

[MarcusRock]

What if Lawrence absolutely doesn’t wanna play for the jets and demands a trade like Eli Manning? The jets would certainly not want a QB who doesn’t wanna play for them.

The Jags would outbid us.

 

[Denim Chicken]

how can we judge when he has no time to throw. He's not Dak but he's not bad. Dalton makes plays but moore handicaps the scheme with his 4 play playbook. He did the same thing to Dak.

He had al the time in the world last night. I was actually really surprised how long he was given back there.

 

[LatinMind]

He had al the time in the world last night. I was actually really surprised how long he was given back there.

do you bother to watch the routes this team runs, and how long it takes for plays to develop? Theres nobody open. Yes he missed a couple plays, but its the same ole story with moore.

 

[john van brocklin]

Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

Good points
With Dak sucking up much cap space
What kind of team could we put around him?

 

[Pantone282C]

Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

Have to agree. Not saying we will actually get Lawrence. Probably won't unless they trade away some draft capital and some current players. If we get Lawrence, then we have trade value with Dak or Lawrence.
We really need some premier DTs and DBs.

 

[G2]

Thats why you resign Dalton as the stop gap. Or let them compete in TC. I know theres not a bigger Dak fan on this forum than me, but Im a bigger Cowboys fan. I actually think they'll end up signing Dak to a longer deal as im sure he got a reality check with this injury. I think he'll want more injury guarantees.

Id love for Dak to be a lifelong Cowboy, but theres another part of me that would rather have 4 or 5 more players on this team than just Dak. They can free up alot of money with restructures to guys like Tyron, Collins, Lawrence and Cooper. I think its something like 30 mil if they need it.

I also think it gets done because of the report coming out that the nfl isnt going to drop the cap much as they could borrow from future caps which makes sense with the mega tv deal thats bout to happen. Im guessing they plan on taking say 10mil from a couple seasons and keep the cap right around where it is now for a couple seasons.

The problem is bigger than Prescott. The first 4 seasons he and Elliott played on a rookie salary was a perfect time to build the defense. But the FO extended Elliott early and here we are. I don't understand how anyone has confidence that after Romo and now Precsott - that they will NOW be able to build the team.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No chance at Lawrence so what’s the point? I’m not opposed to taking one in the 2nd however.

I think Wilson could end up being the best QB in this entire draft. No BS.

 

[plymkr]

We have no shot at Lawrence. Any Lawrence talk is just hope-posting. Hopefully we're picking at 3 and one of those "other" QBs falls and someone is desperate enough to trade into our spot so we can parlay it into picks this year and next to help build the defense. We need defense period.

I think this is the best case scenario. Dak signs and we have the 3rd pick. A team panics and gives us a great deal for the 3rd overall and that would be the catalyst for a quicker rebuild. 2 names keep coming to my mind with picking a "can't miss" QB. Ryan Leaf and Carsen Wentz. Philly is arguably is worse shape than us and sold the farm for Wentz. Leaf sent the Chargers backwards for years. Makes me a little nervous

 

[Denim Chicken]

do you bother to watch the routes this team runs, and how long it takes for plays to develop? Theres nobody open. Yes he missed a couple plays, but its the same ole story with moore.

IDK. He sees to be trying out different stuff this year. Just a number of games ago he was screen happy.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Zach Wilson is still there I would take him unless Dak signed a new deal.
Would be a waste of assets though if Dak did sign a new deal though.

Not necessarily John. Lets say Dak and his agent are hard set on a deal that is 40 annually, if you sign Dak, you lock him in and then you draft a guy you like, you can then negotiate a trade with a team. If you don't sign Dak and he doesn't accept an offer or sign a tender, you can't work a trade. Now, this is not how I would do it, I think it's too risky, but there is a line of thought there I think.

JMO.