Source: NFL Salary Cap could be $185 million this season

ChuckA1

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It's what you do this is the time of year for assumptions...yes its speculation and people close to the know are saying the same numbers of 175 to 185m. Unless they negotiate to borrow from future cap years. I get what your saying but it's like this every hear bro lol
Basically, it's what fans do in the off-season.
 

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So then, what you are saying is there are no "economists" or data that was used to make your projections. OK, just wanted to confirm that this was opinion, based on what has been reported by various sources and not data that has been independently confirmed through source material.

Im saying there is and I told you the results put together by various people who have been paid for decades to accurately predict the NFL salary cap for future years. Let's not lie about who is putting together the data just because you do not like what it says.
 

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using OTC they have the cap at 196m. So by OTC Dallas is 13m under based on the top 51. So to sign Dak to a Franchise tag they would need to free up around 24m and get a little money from the 51st player falling to 52. OTC is probably has a very optimistic take on what the cap will be..

On their main page, OTC shows the cap floor at $176M. Using that number and rollovers, the Cowboys have around $14MM in cap space. It says it right at the top of the chart - $176 million. And if you go to their calculator page, based on that $176 million, they have the Cowboys projected cap at $201 million with total cap liabilities of $187 million (their 2021 projection for Cowboys Top 51). If the cap floor goes from $176 million to $185 million, then their final cap for 2021 would be $210 million with liabilities of $187 million resulting in cap space of $23 million or so.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
 
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Basically, it's what fans do in the off-season.
Lol pretty much. Those who dont like it probably shouldnt log in until they know for sure about ...ANYTHING. rather it be the cap, Daks contract, Free agency or the Draft lol
 

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Elliott would be the dumbest of the bunch.

Again, Cooper's contract isn't as bad as people think. He's probably the one contract that might make sense in restructuring.

Martin's a good candidate as well.
 

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Im saying there is and I told you the results put together by various people who have been paid for decades to accurately predict the NFL salary cap for future years. Let's not lie about who is putting together the data just because you do not like what it says.

If there is, then show me the results of the studies. Don't tell me the results because I would rather see the results for myself and judge the data from there.

For the record, I never said I liked or disliked anything. You said that. I just don't trust your knowledge base, to know or understand what the data may suggest.
 

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For the record, The NFL is contractually obliged to pay a percentage, based of earnings. Since the Super Bowl has not been played yet and that revenue has not been accounted for, I would imagine that this is why numbers have not been finalized. Now, the League has the ability to extend credit, one way or the other. The price will be fixed but the amount that is extended to teams could fluctuate, I.E., the League could adjust the cap up to assist teams but all that does is lock in stagnation for a longer period of time. The terms are very clear. The League pays out a percentage, based on revenue. Revenue has certainly gone down this season. How much is anybodies guess but, the NFL is only obliged to pay a percentage so, if the decision is made to increase that amount, it will get offset in future cap years. Eventually, it will all be balanced out so the question becomes, how long does the NFL want to extend credit and how long is the NFLPA willing to accept wage stagnation, balanced against unemployment of players, due to a cap reduction. This, IMO, is why nobody can really say with any amount of certainty what the actual cap amount will be. I don't really trust anybody who says they know because I suspect the discussion and finalizations can not have happened yet. That can not happen until all cost of the league year have been accounted for.
 

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it could be...but it also could be less or more. So why not wait and see what they decide?
 

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Sure, I understand the reasoning behind waiting. But as fans, we like to discuss and rehash everything. That's basically all we have to do until an announcement is made.

Much like who the FO will draft with pick #10. It's all opinion until it's fact.
 

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That is not correct. He had none in 2019 so it was only 1 season without a 4QC. He had 3 in 2018 and 1 in 2020. He did have 5 GWDs in 2018 just as an FYI.

To give you an idea of where Dak stands in terms of 4QCs, Tom Brady averaged less than 2 per season for his career. Dak has 9 in 4.25 seasons. Dak is on par with hall of fame QBs like Manning, Elway, Brady etc for comebacks per season.

Dak hasn't been on par with a HOFer since his rookie year. The fact you would mention those Qbs in the same sentence as Dak Prescott just proves how out in left field you are on this....... The fact is that Dak sucked in 2017 and in 2018 struggling to break 200 yards passing until Amari Cooper arrived. Even with one of the most offensively loaded offenses in the NFL, he still can't beat good teams. Go look at his 2019 campaign when most everyone on offense was healthy. Who did he beat? You want to pay him for what he did in 2016? But the most damming stat is that he's 9-11 in his last 20 starts. Thats hardly worthy of a 40M per year contract thats going to hamstring this team for the next 4 years.

Bottom line: I don't care if Dak is the QB or someone else is the Qb. Don't care if he makes 40M or 20 bucks. We need a defense. Right now i'm looking at a defensive roster that has 2 solid starters. What the point of paying Dak 40M with a loaded offense and a scrub defense? It doesn't work.
 

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For the record, The NFL is contractually obliged to pay a percentage, based of earnings. Since the Super Bowl has not been played yet and that revenue has not been accounted for, I would imagine that this is why numbers have not been finalized. Now, the League has the ability to extend credit, one way or the other. The price will be fixed but the amount that is extended to teams could fluctuate, I.E., the League could adjust the cap up to assist teams but all that does is lock in stagnation for a longer period of time. The terms are very clear. The League pays out a percentage, based on revenue. Revenue has certainly gone down this season. How much is anybodies guess but, the NFL is only obliged to pay a percentage so, if the decision is made to increase that amount, it will get offset in future cap years. Eventually, it will all be balanced out so the question becomes, how long does the NFL want to extend credit and how long is the NFLPA willing to accept wage stagnation, balanced against unemployment of players, due to a cap reduction. This, IMO, is why nobody can really say with any amount of certainty what the actual cap amount will be. I don't really trust anybody who says they know because I suspect the discussion and finalizations can not have happened yet. That can not happen until all cost of the league year have been accounted for.

Even without the SB, they have a pretty good idea of what the revenues will look like. What they get paid in TV revenues for the SB is pretty much fixed. They also know the crowd will be limited so they can guesstimate what they will bring in that weekend in terms of other revenues.

I suspect the league office has a pretty good idea of what the cap will be in 2021. Now whether that $185 million is a solid number actually leaked by someone in the know, I have no idea.
 

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Dak hasn't been on par with a HOFer since his rookie year. The fact you would mention those Qbs in the same sentence as Dak Prescott just proves how out in left field you are on this....... The fact is that Dak sucked in 2017 and in 2018 struggling to break 200 yards passing until Amari Cooper arrived. Even with one of the most offensively loaded offenses in the NFL, he still can't beat good teams. Go look at his 2019 campaign when most everyone on offense was healthy. Who did he beat? You want to pay him for what he did in 2016? But the most damming stat is that he's 9-11 in his last 20 starts. Thats hardly worthy of a 40M per year contract thats going to hamstring this team for the next 4 years.

Bottom line: I don't care if Dak is the QB or someone else is the Qb. Don't care if he makes 40M or 20 bucks. We need a defense. Right now i'm looking at a defensive roster that has 2 solid starters. What the point of paying Dak 40M with a loaded offense and a scrub defense? It doesn't work.

40mil on a 185mil cap next year. QB salaries are a bubble. I hope we aren't one of the last teams to pay out a fat QB contract before that bubble bursts. But we probably are.
 

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Contracts should be denominated in cap%.

Exactly.
40mil on a 185mil cap next year. QB salaries are a bubble. I hope we aren't one of the last teams to pay out a fat QB contract before that bubble bursts. But we probably are.

People are so cock sure we can't win without Dak...........yet we haven't won with him either. 9-11 in his last 20 starts. Thats what we are buying.
 

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Dak hasn't been on par with a HOFer since his rookie year. The fact you would mention those Qbs in the same sentence as Dak Prescott just proves how out in left field you are on this....... The fact is that Dak sucked in 2017 and in 2018 struggling to break 200 yards passing until Amari Cooper arrived. Even with one of the most offensively loaded offenses in the NFL, he still can't beat good teams. Go look at his 2019 campaign when most everyone on offense was healthy. Who did he beat? You want to pay him for what he did in 2016? But the most damming stat is that he's 9-11 in his last 20 starts. Thats hardly worthy of a 40M per year contract thats going to hamstring this team for the next 4 years.

Bottom line: I don't care if Dak is the QB or someone else is the Qb. Don't care if he makes 40M or 20 bucks. We need a defense. Right now i'm looking at a defensive roster that has 2 solid starters. What the point of paying Dak 40M with a loaded offense and a scrub defense? It doesn't work.

When the facts don't meet your agenda you blow your lid. Lol. He had 3 4QCs and 5 GWDs in 2018 and he sucked? And the Amari thing is lame. Name one QB in this year's superbowl who doesn't have multiple pro bowl receivers to throw to. I will give you a hint they both have more weapons than Dak does. And one of them has multiple all-pros.

Shouldn't let this get personal.
 

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Although the cap should even be lower for this one year, I think the plan was to smooth things out by "borrowing" from future expected cap values.

This is what I've also heard/read more than once......
 

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This tells me that Dak will be franchise tagged once again, earning him a $37.7 one year salary for 2021. This will give the Cowboys a chance to keep Dak once again as their starting QB while enabling the team to see how well Dak's injured lower leg has healed and holds up throughout 2021. If Dak's leg heals and holds up well, expect a big contract extension at the end of the 2021 season when the salary cap is expected to exponentially expand starting in 2022. If Dak's leg starts giving him problems and has a setback, 2021 might be the last year Dak plays in Dallas due to injury.

I see it as another reason to get him signed. A cap hit of $37.7mil in a reduced cap year would be a problem. A long-term deal likely significantly reduces that hit.
 
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