Revisiting Micah Parsons

[CalPolyTechnique]

I still haven’t budged that Parsons is my fallback if one of the top two corners isn’t there.

Obviously, his background/character concerns have to check-out.

There isn’t a DT available that I’m willing to take at #10. Neither would I be enamored with taking Rashawn Slater there also.

Parsons’s ceiling is high. He’s still developing at the position and is already one of the best at the college level. We need talent at this position.

What....say....you?

 

[Carson]

It’s always hard to swing the pendulum one way or the other pre free agency. If we can knock out a few holes (DT, CB, FS) any of those, I am ok with Parsons at 10.

If we do nothing, I would prefer going elsewhere at 10.

 

[Teague31]

Just say no to a 4-3 LB with a Top 10 pick

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I find it hilarious that fans can watch our horrid play at linebacker and be opposed to addressing the problem with talent.

 

[Carson]

I find it hilarious that fans can watch our horrid play at linebacker and be opposed to addressing the problem with talent.

I wouldn’t say not to address. I just feel out of 1T, OLB, CB or FS that we could get by with a cheaper guy / later draft pick. We continue to follow that method at 1T and FS it hasn’t worked well. We’ve tried at corner and had some median of success.

 

[cnuball21]

I think it's one of those situations where's been such a highly touted prospect for so long that people are just trying to nitpick to find gaps. Add in the fact he opted out for the season it magnifies.

The dude was built in a lab and is everything you want in a modern day NFL LBr. I'm hopeful the team digs in deep on the character rumors bc if they're valid I"m out.

If there's no glaring red flags I'm all in for him at 10. I don't care that he's an "off ball LBr" bc he gives you so much more and could completely change the dynamic of our defense.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I wouldn’t say not to address. I just feel out of 1T, OLB, CB or FS that we could get by with a cheaper guy / later draft pick. We continue to follow that method at 1T and FS it hasn’t worked well. We’ve tried at corner and had some median of success.

The scenario is if we stick at #10. I don’t see a Top 10 1-tech/3-tech or FS in this draft.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I think it's one of those situations where's been such a highly touted prospect for so long that people are just trying to nitpick to find gaps. Add in the fact he opted out for the season it magnifies.

The dude was built in a lab and is everything you want in a modern day NFL LBr. I'm hopeful the team digs in deep on the character rumors bc if they're valid I"m out.

If there's no glaring red flags I'm all in for him at 10. I don't care that he's an "off ball LBr" bc he gives you so much more and could completely change the dynamic of our defense.

Agreed.

The “off-ball linebacker” lament is silly too. You mean folks don’t think the most productive and dynamic position players on your defense are worth spending draft capital on?

 

[Dalmations202]

Dallas needs 1T, LB, FS, and one CB to start.
Guys with top of the 1st round grades who might be available at 10 -- Caleb Farley, Patrick Surtain, Micah Parsons.

No FS with top of first grade, no 1T with top of first grade.

So I would look to draft them in that order there first, then look to trade down, and if no trading partners - see who is the next on the list.

This is all with the understanding that you QB issue is resolved (signed, traded, whatever), and you aren't looking to move up for a QB.
No telling what Dallas' board looks like though.

 

[cnuball21]

Agreed.

The “off-ball linebacker” lament is silly too. You mean folks don’t think the most productive and dynamic position players on your defense are worth spending draft capital on?

Generally speaking I wouldn't take a LBr that high. But guys like Parsons are just different. Same with Devin White.

 

[Gaede]

I think we can't turn our noses up at any top defensive prospect. This draft doesn't have many and is unquestionably one of them.

 

[Creeper]

I still haven’t budged that Parsons is my fallback if one of the top two corners isn’t there.

Obviously, his background/character concerns have to check-out.

There isn’t a DT available that I’m willing to take at #10. Neither would I be enamored with taking Rashawn Slater there also.

Parsons’s ceiling is high. He’s still developing at the position and is already one of the best at the college level. We need talent at this position.

What....say....you?

I agree about the DT at #10 and about Slater at #10. I am on the fence about Parsons. I'd have to see his psych evaluations, leadership qualities, work ethic etc. Generally, I question players who opted out in 2020. Not because they opted out but because we did not get to see them play - compared to players who did play. Still, if the two CBs are gone and Parsons is there, it may be a better selection than reaching for an offensive player.

But if the guys they target are gone and Kyle Pitts is still there, do they take him? He could be an offensive game changer like Kittle or Kelce only a worse matchup nightmare for defenses.

 

[Chuck 54]

No way I want to spend #10 on any player that isn’t a guarantee to start or work in a DL rotation at least.
I’ve been playing with a short trade down simply because I’m not convinced there’s much difference between Farley, Surtain, and Horn. But I also like some of the other CBs in lower rounds. Adebo from Stanford intrigues me.

We need another DT, another Edge, and a couple of young safeties and CBs.

We also have to remember that we held on to a few edge developmental types last year. We also worked on developing OTs and Martin may eventually end up out there in the future, so a guard may be the only need on offense.

 

[Bowdown27]

I find it hilarious that fans can watch our horrid play at linebacker and be opposed to addressing the problem with talent.

THANK YOU. He was ranked second best by pff in run stopping 2019. If that isn’t what we need at linebacker idk what people expect for us to do with our guys that run away from the ball now.

 

[817Gill]

Leadership maturity issues plus a lack of instinct as he’s so new to the position. Really don’t want to draft an LB at 10 unless he’s generational.

I don’t think you can hit your true ceiling as a LB unless you have instinct, and unless you believe he’s going to develop that you’ll just have another supremely athletic LB. Might as well draft Dylan Moses later if you’re just looking for athlete.

Gimme Bolton. I’ll take Browning or Cox too.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Watching every other big name LB'er in the class and then going back to Parsons is shocking. None of those guys destroy games the way he does, none of them have a tape that's even close. I think Zaven Collins is a late first rounder, and he feels like he's about two tiers below Parsons.

The NFL comparison I made a while ago for Parsons was Zeke, and I still stand by it. Obvious monster talent at a low-value position who makes some bad decisions off the field. Zeke's extracurriculars came back and bit us in 2017, and his general lack of Fs to give about conditioning and playing football have his career on a terminal downswing at 25.

I don't know if Parsons is as apathetic as Zeke is, but if anything he seems more violent. No doubt he will run on to the field and immediately start dominating, but I can't see him playing for the next 5 years without problems cropping up. Putting that kind of ticking time bomb on our roster is what scares the hell out of me, even if the short term results would be good.

Zeke ran out and immediately started threatening rushing records back in 2016, but that already feels like a million years ago. Derrick Henry stayed healthy, stayed in shape, and kept working on his game, and now he's BREAKING those records in 2020. I want a Henry on my team rather than a Zeke.

 

[phildadon86]

Agreed.

The “off-ball linebacker” lament is silly too. You mean folks don’t think the most productive and dynamic position players on your defense are worth spending draft capital on?

Didnt he also have the second best run defence grade? In the country? No. We dont need help there.

 

[JBS]

I'm with the OP 100%

Top 2 cbs and Parsons. That's my short list at 10.

If Dak isn't getting a new contract, obviously qb is in the mix too.

 

[Avery]

I think he's one of my top three guys with the corners. We need talent period - I don't care if he's an off the ball LB'er - if you drafted a corner at 10 and a LB in the second, is that really any different than a LB at 10 and a corner in 2?

Kid's a beast and I would probably take him above Surtain/Farley in all honesty. You'll never have to convince him to hit the gym or the playbook as he's extremely motivated to punish the offense. I love the fact that when he's wrapping up, he's punching at the ball for the FF. If the coaches think he's a true knucklehead and not worth the pick, fine, but watch his game film and he's destroying the Big Ten.

 

[Gaede]

I think he's one of my top three guys with the corners. We need talent period - I don't care if he's an off the ball LB'er - if you drafted a corner at 10 and a LB in the second, is that really any different than a LB at 10 and a corner in 2?

Kid's a beast and I would probably take him above Surtain/Farley in all honesty. You'll never have to convince him to hit the gym or the playbook as he's extremely motivated to punish the offense. I love the fact that when he's wrapping up, he's punching at the ball for the FF. If the coaches think he's a true knucklehead and not worth the pick, fine, but watch his game film and he's destroying the Big Ten.

I've gone back and forth on Parsons, but I do think that's mostly because we need something to do in the offseason. It's fun to think of as many alternatives as possible.

But realistically, the most likely and best candidates have always been and continue to be Parsons, Farley, and Surtain