Does Jerry Jones really want to win a championship?

Jake

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.

The only thing Jerry wants is the thing he can't buy - a championship.

But he's his own worst enemy. He doesn't treat players like assets - he forms relationships with them. He did the same thing with Garrett at coach. This is why the Cowboys aren't winning anything until he gets out of the business of making personnel decisions. I don't mean sharing responsibility. I mean out of the room completely. He'll never do it.
 

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This is ridiculous. No one wants to win a championship more than Jerry. He just doesn't know how to win one.

You're of course very relevant if you are winning championships.
 

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Of course he does. Jerry' signed Zeke/Tlaw to ridiculous contracts, new coaching staff etc....

One can't say the man isn't trying.
 

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With his life winding down, soon to pass the torch forever, and with so many giving him little credit for 3 titles with two head coaches.......
I think Jerry wants to win a Championship more than anyone in this forum.

Didnt say he would or was making the right moves to do so.
But I think he WANTS it more than you do.

There, I said it.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
Don't overlook the simple fact of the matter, BROUGHAM'S.( as in)
Jerry done did that whole:
" humped up the hill, commanded the surrounding terrain & killed all that entered,,,er,,, early on, that's an granted given
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@Whirlwin The GM puts the team together. The team has had enough talent and coaching to succeed. The players have failed, not the GM.

Quit looking at the GM for excuses why the players fail to execute. Yes, the GM has made some mistakes just like every other GM out there. It is the players who win or lose on the field. Jerry believed in Zeke and caved when he went to Cabo instead of camp. Zeke-lovers here mostly agreed with paying him. Jerry appeased the fans and believed in Zeke. For that, Jerry is at fault. Zeke only cares about the money. That is mostly on Zeke, who does not have the heart of a champion, and the Zeke-lovers who care more about the player than the team.

In my opinion, too many fans are quick to blame the GM and not the players. Dak, Zeke, Cooper, et al need to go out there and win a championship. Fans need to stop making excuses for the star players. The players just lack the desire and are content. It comes from within or it doesn’t come at all. Dak, Zeke, Cooper et al need to lead. They are most responsible for the culture and attitude of the team. Not the GM.


@Risen Star he is right about all the talent the cowboys have Isn’t he
 

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I've heard him say it. But in this interview with 105.3 (and no, I don't have a link) he clearly said he wanted to be relevant and interesting. The interviewer had to basically say, what the hell, dude, what about winning? Only then did Jerry backtrack and say oh yeah, winning is important as well.

Someone who is as passionate about winning, like Jerry claims sometimes, would have spit that out first.
You can want to be relevant and interesting and want to win all at the same time. Anyone who thinks JJ’s first desire isn’t to win then just has their head up their *** with their agenda.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
Jerry cares most about being the face of the Cowboys. Everything else is secondary.
 

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Of course he wants to win another superbowl as that keeps him relevant and in the spot light. Downside is he and the fans will never see the day again as long as the Jones own this organization.

He cares about the spotlight(social media, etc) and profits. The only way for him to change is through those means. Stop buying gear, going to games, and being bumped from prime games.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
Yes, he does.

How do I know? He'll make money.
 

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I've heard him say it. But in this interview with 105.3 (and no, I don't have a link) he clearly said he wanted to be relevant and interesting. The interviewer had to basically say, what the hell, dude, what about winning? Only then did Jerry backtrack and say oh yeah, winning is important as well.

Someone who is as passionate about winning, like Jerry claims sometimes, would have spit that out first.
I think people are reading too much into this

To be relevant and interesting - you need to be winning.

Think Jerry just thought that was a given.
 

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Yes. But only if he can do it on his terms. Meaning cheap and with all credit given to him
 

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You can want to be relevant and interesting and want to win all at the same time. Anyone who thinks JJ’s first desire isn’t to win then just has their head up their *** with their agenda.

Agenda? What agenda? Jerry is the one who said it, not me.
 

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Agenda? What agenda? Jerry is the one who said it, not me.
I’m no fan of Jerry the GM but don’t for a second think he doesn’t care about winning. Your agenda is your hate of all things Jerry so you’re too blind and ignorant to see it.
 

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@Whirlwin The GM puts the team together. The team has had enough talent and coaching to succeed. The players have failed, not the GM.

Quit looking at the GM for excuses why the players fail to execute. Yes, the GM has made some mistakes just like every other GM out there. It is the players who win or lose on the field. Jerry believed in Zeke and caved when he went to Cabo instead of camp. Zeke-lovers here mostly agreed with paying him. Jerry appeased the fans and believed in Zeke. For that, Jerry is at fault. Zeke only cares about the money. That is mostly on Zeke, who does not have the heart of a champion, and the Zeke-lovers who care more about the player than the team.

In my opinion, too many fans are quick to blame the GM and not the players. Dak, Zeke, Cooper, et al need to go out there and win a championship. Fans need to stop making excuses for the star players. The players just lack the desire and are content. It comes from within or it doesn’t come at all. Dak, Zeke, Cooper et al need to lead. They are most responsible for the culture and attitude of the team. Not the GM.

The owner is responsible for the country club, entitled environment not the players. Players have come and gone and nothing's changed. It's the guy at the top that allows it to happen.

Good point on our talent though.
 

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The owner is responsible for the country club, entitled environment not the players. Players have come and gone and nothing's changed. It's the guy at the top that allows it to happen.

Good point on our talent though.

Although, the ‘country club’ environment was much worse in the 90’s and Aikman, Emmitt, and Irvin succeeded.

There are actually two cultures. One is the ‘culture’ at Valley Ranch and another ‘culture’ on the field. The players are solely responsible for the culture on the field and that is 90% of the overall culture as a whole. Do you think Ray Lewis would allow CBs to ankle tackle and make business decisions? Some player(s) needs to lead and hold players accountable on the field. Too many freelancers and half rear-ended efforts.

Glad we agree on the talent level.
 

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Although, the ‘country club’ environment was much worse in the 90’s and Aikman, Emmitt, and Irvin succeeded.

There are actually two cultures. One is the ‘culture’ at Valley Ranch and another ‘culture’ on the field. The players are solely responsible for the culture on the field and that is 90% of the overall culture as a whole. Do you think Ray Lewis would allow CBs to ankle tackle and make business decisions? Some player(s) needs to lead and hold players accountable on the field. Too many freelancers and half rear-ended efforts.

Glad we agree on the talent level.
There was no country club environment when Johnson was coaching. Not sure where you got that from. He would cut someone if they showed up 5 mins late. Unless they could really play.
 

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Jerry sucks as a GM but there is no better way to be "relevant and interesting" than to win championships (and Jerry knows this better than anyone). That quote does not prove he doesn't care about winning but the opposite. By the way, Jerry would also make much more money if the Cowboys won a championship so this also applies to the "Jerry just cares about money" argument.
 

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There was no country club environment when Johnson was coaching. Not sure where you got that from. He would cut someone if they showed up 5 mins late. Unless they could really play.

Dream on. Jimmy only played his psych games on the fringe players and could do that without a salary cap during a different era. Jimmy had so many exceptions to the rules. Players knew it.

Jimmy would tell the lower players to make a splash play or they would be cut. No coach is doing that today. That era is long gone. And it won’t be back.
 

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Dream on. Jimmy only played his psych games on the fringe players and could do that without a salary cap during a different era. Jimmy had so many exceptions to the rules. Players knew it.

Jimmy would tell the lower players to make a splash play or they would be cut. No coach is doing that today. That era is long gone. And it won’t be back.
Well I disagree. He practiced the hell out of them whether they liked it or not. Of course the Irvins, Aikmans and Smiths could make a mistake while others couldn’t but it’s because they never slacked off in their preparation. Jimmy knew that.
 
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