Eisen Show - MNF’s Louis Riddick on Cowboys’ “Dangerous” Approach to Dealing with Dak

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Haha the Cowboys have been paying players at or above their market for years. Recently look at DLAW, Amari, and Jaylon all got big contracts. Maybe France will steer their clients away from the Cowboys but who cares that guy is a pain in the ***.
 

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Yea the cheap skate label is already here.
The main area where not signing Dak effects us is with guys who want to win.
You have to have a QB and playing year to year is simply foolish. .

All that said ti doesn't matter because we dont sign outside free agents of note at all.
 

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A point you don't see around here often. How does the handling of Dak affect the players on the team and the possibility of signing quality free agents. Not about money but about the reputation of how Dallas treats its players.



Reputation.

If this team in the locker room gets mad if Dak goes somewhere else, it was not a team to begin with...not a one man show.
 

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If this team in the locker room gets mad if Dak goes somewhere else, it was not a team to begin with...not a one man show.
No surprise there’s such a large gap between you # of posts and # of likes. Might be the biggest gap of any member.
 

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Lol oh please..

Dallas has possibly the most spoiled players in the NFL.


Edit: Lous Riddick... "We saw how that football team looked when he wasn't on the field."


Yes we saw it. Did you? WE stunk with him and we stunk without him.

We were a watermelon kick from an 0-4 start coming off an underachieving 8-8 season where we lost to any decent team we played including his week 16 blunder against Philly to miss the playoffs.

"Be careful treating these guys like a commodity."

Like for real? You're accusing Jerry Jones of not taking care of his guys? The same Jerry Jones who gave Zeke a fat new contract 2 years before he had to after Zeke pulled the crap he did every offseason?
This post is a good example of when someone has already made up their mind. If you didn’t see the difference in this team without Dak vs with him then you’re stuck in your own reality....and please don’t bring up team record in comparing a 4 game sample size to 10 game sample size, be smarter than that
 

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A point you don't see around here often. How does the handling of Dak affect the players on the team and the possibility of signing quality free agents. Not about money but about the reputation of how Dallas treats its players.



I don't care if you like Dak or hate Dak, he's right about the optics. Players, and their agents, see this stuff.

"Why isn't Dallas a top tier free agent destination?"

Multiple reasons, and they all lead back to the front office genius who has only ever worked for his daddy.

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Go down the long history of Jerry and this franchise -- they typically ALWAYS take care of their own, to the point they overpay (Jaylon), or sign them before they need to (Zeke), just to keep them happy.

I'll knock Jerry for ALOT of things. Not taking care of, and not signing our own impending FAs, is not one thing I would EVER criticize him for. Unless I criticize him for an overpay, of course.

I agree with your take, that's not my issue. But I keep seeing this about Zeke. Regardless of what anyone thinks about his contract, that's not the point, but he was not signed too early. He was extended exactly when he should have been, after his 3rd rookie season. Which is when teams that intend to extend players usually extend them. Whether or not Jerry should have extended him at all is another matter. But that's why Zeke did what he did. Because once you get past that 3rd year, an extension is probably not forthcoming.
 

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If this team in the locker room gets mad if Dak goes somewhere else, it was not a team to begin with...not a one man show.

I didn't articulate that as well as I should have. I believe, when you boil down the Riddick comments, you get to a point the team perhaps changes their views of this franchise. If you recall, the players were all talking about their leader on the night of and day after Dak's injury. Both sides of the ball.

If a team can lose faith in a coach and quit on him, why would Jerry be any different since he has his hands meddling in every aspect of this team? And why wouldn't the players stop giving a frick. Maybe to the point of looking to get out of Dallas. And would this not affect the free agency aspect, when the team seems to be bent on this tightwad attitude after giving the wrong people too much money?

I realize Jerry is at the core of this stalemate. People want to blame Dak and his agent. But Jerry has this idea he can wait until the last minute and get a better deal. This mindset of a non-football man trying to use his business tactics on sports agents is what has exacerbated this stand-off. Jerry is at fault and about to screw this up.

And one point that seems to not be articulated is the fact Jerry chose to get pushed into paying Zeke. And how did that play in his relationship with Dak when Jerry suddenly starts playing hardball? Think Dak felt under appreciated after his time making 4th round money without a complaint? And right before his big payday, the running back comes along and gets a major payday, early?

The cadre of people who bemoan Dak's play fall into two categories. One is fans who simply don't have any critical thinking and can't see past a season with no training camp and a new head coach and a world of turnovers, which may be the symptom of the confluence of negative aspects which, together, caused the 2020 season. You will see the great unwashed reply that all other teams had the same situation. But that is not really the case at all. I expect this team will be better prepared this next season. This group of fans also seems to live in hurt feelings. They are a group who look to blame someone. Dak is an easy target.

The other group are the Barco-Lounger GM's who act like Dak's check is coming out of their checking account. You hear the despondent chortling about no team every had a player cost a percentage that Dak will cost and still win. They forget Romo's contract which paid him close to the same percentage. They won enough to get to the Green Bay game. At that point it is up to the head coach and players to win.

I have wrestled with this issue. Especially after Dak was injured. But it is my belief now, that Dak uses adversity as a motivational technique to push him to his limits of talent. And that is far beyond what people here slander daily.

I see the let Dak walk or trade him as a Babe Ruth curse for this franchise. While fans here are remiss at actually calling themselves out for their opinions when they backfire. So you won't hear much from those libelers when he succeeds here or somewhere else. This will go down in the history of this team as the most stupid arse decision Jerry and Stephen have ever made. Far surpassing the Randy Moss debacle.

I could be wrong about this. But just quietly consider Jimmy, back-to-back championships, and Jerry allowing him to walk because Jerry didn't get the credit he thinks he deserves. Now ask yourself, could this be a revisit of this monumental fail for the Cowboys?
 

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I didn't articulate that as well as I should have. I believe, when you boil down the Riddick comments, you get to a point the team perhaps changes their views of this franchise. If you recall, the players were all talking about their leader on the night of and day after Dak's injury. Both sides of the ball.

If a team can lose faith in a coach and quit on him, why would Jerry be any different since he has his hands meddling in every aspect of this team? And why wouldn't the players stop giving a frick. Maybe to the point of looking to get out of Dallas. And would this not affect the free agency aspect, when the team seems to be bent on this tightwad attitude after giving the wrong people too much money?

I realize Jerry is at the core of this stalemate. People want to blame Dak and his agent. But Jerry has this idea he can wait until the last minute and get a better deal. This mindset of a non-football man trying to use his business tactics on sports agents is what has exacerbated this stand-off. Jerry is at fault and about to screw this up.

And one point that seems to not be articulated is the fact Jerry chose to get pushed into paying Zeke. And how did that play in his relationship with Dak when Jerry suddenly starts playing hardball? Think Dak felt under appreciated after his time making 4rth round money without a complaint? And right before his beg payday, the running back comes along and gets a major payday, early?

The cadre of people who bemoan Dak's play fall into two categories. One is fans who simply don't have any critical thinking and can't see past a season with no training camp and a new head coach and a world of turnovers, which may be the symptom of the confluence of negative aspects which, together, caused the 2020 season. You will see the great unwashed reply that all other teams had the same situation. But that is not really the case at all. I expect this team will be better prepared this next season. This group of fans also seems to live in hurt feelings. They are a group who look to blame someone. Dak is an easy target.

The other group are the Barco-Lounger GM's who act like Dak's check is coming out of their checking account. You hear the despondent chortling about no team every had a player cost a percentage that Dak will cost and still win. They forget Romo's contract which paid him close to the same percentage. They won enough to get to the Green Bay game. At that point it is up to the head coach and players to win.

I have wrestled with this issue. Especially after Dak was injured. But it is my belief now, that Dak uses adversity as a motivational technique to push him to his limits of talent. And that is far beyond what people here slander daily.

I see the let Dak walk or trade him as a Babe Ruth curse for this franchise. While fans here are remiss at actually calling themselves out for their opinions when they backfire. So you won't hear much from those libelers when he succeeds here or somewhere else. This will go down in the history of this team as the most stupid arse decision Jerry and Stephen have ever made. Far surpassing the Randy Moss debacle.

I could be wrong about this. But just quietly consider Jimmy, back-to-back championships, and Jerry allowing him to walk because Jerry didn't get the credit he thinks he deserves. Now ask yourself, could this be a revisit of this monumental fail for the Cowboys?

I hear you...but nothing is static, nothing stays the same...times change and that will never change, and change is good!

And the money part? I really can't do anything with that. I don't know his name, but his initials are Jerry Jones. It could be failure, it could turn out awesome.

The way I look at this team is, hope for the best and expect the worse. lol

The investment is in Dak. If he gets healthy and can play ball...that's good. $$$

The love of money is the root of all evil.
 
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This post is a good example of when someone has already made up their mind. If you didn’t see the difference in this team without Dak vs with him then you’re stuck in your own reality....and please don’t bring up team record in comparing a 4 game sample size to 10 game sample size, be smarter than that

I didn’t say there wasn’t a difference... I’ve always said our losses look a lot prettier with Dak.

He gives us losses we can be proud of.

Some of you are so enamored with the fools gold he provides and the lack of post season success that comes with it.

Let’s go ring up 400 yards and 4 TDs on a garbage Giants team or some other team that sucks at defending the pass and brag about our #1 offense ever. I can’t believe people are that big of suckers.
 

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This was a fail! It’s unreal that people are all of a sudden on a players side and think “why not just give him what he wants?” That’s just stupid business. That’s why. This makes no difference on who comes here. Players are peeved because an owner doesn’t just say “oh you want top dollar, here you go” How ridiculous is that? If Dak wasn’t a Cowboy you’d be saying “why pay a Top 10 QB with no skins on his resume 40 mil?” It’s true. If he was a Colts QB it wouldn’t even be newsworthy. It’s the Cowboys so just pay up. It’s unreal how people have turned Dak, whom I defend, into this top 2 guy that deserves to wreck the cap so we can be a better .500 team
 

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I didn’t say there wasn’t a difference... I’ve always said our losses look a lot prettier with Dak.

He gives us losses we can be proud of.

Some of you are so enamored with the fools gold he provides and the lack of post season success that comes with it.

Let’s go ring up 400 yards and 4 TDs on a garbage Giants team or some other team that sucks at defending the pass and brag about our #1 offense ever. I can’t believe people are that big of suckers.
The problem with this logic is it implies that football isn’t a team sport. Like why are using wins as a measuring stick. This ain’t tennis or golf. Football is the ultimate team sport and its clueless to dumb it done to wins and loses to measure an individual players performance. It’s know it’s easy but man we got to get away from looking at wins it’s ridiculous and football is LITERALLY the last sport we should be doing that with
 

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if you ask me, any quality free agent has resisted coming here anyhow, so what's the diff, lol? Players will go where the money is, and owners will save a buck where they can. Believing anything else is fantasy
 

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If this team in the locker room gets mad if Dak goes somewhere else, it was not a team to begin with...not a one man show.
Not a one man show?

You blame the losses on Dak?

HACK....lay off the booze.
 
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We had the # 1 offense in the league cause he had to throw 60 times against trash pass defenses.

It wasn’t like we just jumped out on teams and dominated...

Aren’t we at like 20 something games in a row with no opening drive TD?

Don’t try to sell me this fools gold.. That’s for some other sucker.

Because the defense was giving up 36 points per game.

The reason why we sucked last year was all about guys like Darian Thompson, Rashard Robinson, Eli Ankou, and Rondell Carter getting lots of snaps on defense. There were others who played games as they churned this dumpster bin of DL and S. It was as bad as it's been since Kiffin's last stand.

You throw in Crawford, Poe, Griffen, Lee, Smith, Wood, LVE, Awuzie, Lewis, and other veterans underperforming and you had a defense giving up 3 TD drives in a row regularly.

The execution was a clown show with busted coverages leading to lots of quick scores. Teams could run at will and we gave up 7+ play drives for TD just as easy.

It was on track to get worse but they started Wilson and guys like Gregory and Gallimore emerged. Diggs played better and better as the year went on. Less outright breakdowns.

We lost 6 out of the next 7 games after Dak went down. Offensive production got cut in half.

The offense turned the ball over too much but a lot of that excess was because of poor pass protection. That also got better as the year went on.
 

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Because the defense was giving up 36 points per game.
Yes thats a problem! But where in f*** was Daks production against the Saints, Jets, Eagles, Patriots. Every once in a while the defense will show and Dak is unable to generate any offense. I dont believe we can say its the defenses fault completely. Even against the Bears and Bills he opened with a score and than went to bed until the 4th quarter when they were down by 20 points.
 

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I don't care if you like Dak or hate Dak, he's right about the optics. Players, and their agents, see this stuff.

"Why isn't Dallas a top tier free agent destination?"

Multiple reasons, and they all lead back to the front office genius who has only ever worked for his daddy.

stephenjones.jpg
Smartest guy in the room :facepalm:

What has Stephen done to the driving force or influencer for the Cowboys in the next 25 years?

WOULD any other team hire Stephen Jones as COO?

The Optics are pathetic! This kind of mindset is ripe for a draft pick fiasco like John Elway, Eli Manning and/or eventually a Deshaun Watson situation.

Jerry Jones is a Rock Star, the dye is cast Love him or hate Jerry.

Stephen Jones is becoming a laughing stock amongst the Premiere Agents...


How long before Stephen Jones starts telling Draft picks and free agents we won’t sign up you unless we like your agent and you give us a cap friendly deal so Stephen can give daddy a pretty financial spreadsheet and average FA
 
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