Bottom line is Jerry has bumbled the Dak negotiations

[CowboyRoy]

Lightning can strike twice.............The only difference is going to be the new rookie is going to kick *** for seasons to come, unlike Dak who njuts up against AVERAGE TEAMS. As a matter of fact the rooki they take will have an outstanding college record against rated teams, something Prescott struggle BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yawn........another pathetic hater. Enjoy that.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's not a smart option to give Dak the money that has been reported.

You have to retain his rights even if its at 40 million per year for 3 years. Letting him walk for nothing would be a disaster. A team will trade for Dak even at that price no doubt about it.

 

[Diehardblues]

You have to retain his rights even if its at 40 million per year for 3 years. Letting him walk for nothing would be a disaster. A team will trade for Dak even at that price no doubt about it.

Can we Franchise Tag him and then trade him ?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Can we Franchise Tag him and then trade him ?

Yep............AND, we can even franchise him next year and trade him. The price will be something like 57 million per year, but we will retain his rights long enough to trade him before the draft.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yep............AND, we can even franchise him next year and trade him. The price will be something like 57 million per year, but we will retain his rights long enough to trade him before the draft.

Unfortunately that’s beginning to look like best option. Tag him and trade him. If we can’t come to terms.

 

[foofighters]

No.. It wouldn't..

It's just better then this crap deal.

These QB contracts are out of hand. Dak should probably make 20 million a year for the impact he realistically has on the field. If we want to be nice then 25.

35 is still stupid and teams who are doing those deals are still regretting it on the back end.

Russell Wilson, an elite QB, is begging to get out of Seattle and go to a win now team because they found out the hard way what life is like after paying a QB but at least they had a Superbowl in hand.

This is the reality of the issue that some of these guys need to think about. When Dak is 55 is that extra 60 million worth it when Dallas didn't get any where near a Super Bowl because they didn't have the money to bring in additional talent? Imagine the potential income lost due to winning a Super Bowl with endorsement deals? The Dallas QB who wins the Super Bowl is going to bring in more in endorsements than anyone else who wins the SB.

Look at Brady, he just wants to win and he's willing to do anything to win and has proven that he is an important reason why his teams have won.

 

[kskboys]

You have to retain his rights even if its at 40 million per year for 3 years. Letting him walk for nothing would be a disaster. A team will trade for Dak even at that price no doubt about it.

Unless we get lucky, it'd be rebuilding time. Not sure that's such a bad idea.

 

[Diehardblues]

Unless we get lucky, it'd be rebuilding time. Not sure that's such a bad idea.

Maybe not.

But it sure doesn’t appear to fit into Jethros plan. Which bringing in McCarthy and retaining Moore was all about optimizing Dak and this offense now.

That’s the basis for making the coaching changes is we thought we were under achieving with Dak and this roster. It’s difficult to imagine our ownership is completely on board with abandoning that process.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the reality of the issue that some of these guys need to think about. When Dak is 55 is that extra 60 million worth it when Dallas didn't get any where near a Super Bowl because they didn't have the money to bring in additional talent? Imagine the potential income lost due to winning a Super Bowl with endorsement deals? The Dallas QB who wins the Super Bowl is going to bring in more in endorsements than anyone else who wins the SB.

Look at Brady, he just wants to win and he's willing to do anything to win and has proven that he is an important reason why his teams have won.

Yea but after 20 years Brady has already made his money. He’s just looking to extend his career. It’s a different mindset and it’s so rare for QB to take that route.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe not.

But it sure doesn’t appear to fit into Jethros plan. Which bringing in McCarthy and retaining Moore was all about optimizing Dak and this offense now.

That’s the basis for making the coaching changes is we thought we were under achieving with Dak and this roster. It’s difficult to imagine our ownership is completely on board with abandoning that process.

You don't think we'll need to rebuild w/o a QB?

 

[foofighters]

Yea but after 20 years Brady has already made his money. He’s just looking to extend his career. It’s a different mindset and it’s so rare for QB to take that route.

Does Brady have a history of being paid a lot in his contracts? Just because the mindset is rare, is it wrong?

 

[TwentyOne]

At 40 million or 41 million per year average, were at the ridiculous point. If that is truly where we are.

Jerry could have had this wrapped up for 35 million or a little less two years ago and 35 million just last year and he blew it. So if he has to pay upwards of 40 million, then he blew it.

On the surface, it looks like Dak cares about maximizing his money. If all this salary conjecture is really true. His determination to maximize his money 3 years from now with the TV contract shows again, that we will have to do this all over again, and the numbers will be even more crazy. If the rumors are true.

Problem is we have NO other options at the moment.

Cutting Dak for nothing is just dumb. Simply cant do that. You either sign Dak 3 years and work on his replacement during that time or you trade him.

Giving away the rights to Dak is NOT an option.

Here are the options I see that make any sense:

-Sign Dak, play out the next 3 years, continue to build the defense and team around the QB
-Sign Dak, at some point trade him while you build the defense and team around the QB
-trade him now before the draft

Options that make ZERO sense:

-Let Dak walk
-let Dak play on the tag this year and let him walk

Either way, this Jerry/Dak contract is to the point of total stupidity. Needs to be done with already one way or the other.

35 mils/anno 2 years ago would have been much more than 40 now.
Both numbers are way too high for Dak.

You have to view it this way: If we lose him after the 2021 season we will get (probably) a 3rd round pick as compensation. We drafted him for a 4th and get a third in return. Also had 4 years of cheap play. Thats how you do business. If we with all our draftpicks can get more back than we invested thats a win for us everytime.

I know we should get 2 firsts or at least one high first and a third for him. But then would will you do ?

Id say non exclusive tag him then let him test the open market. I dont believe someone will pay him more than 30m/anno. Not with his major injury, what he has shown in 2019 and with the cap in 2021 going down.
Anyways trade him if someone gives you 2 firsts as fast as you can. The guy is trouble all day with his "i am a top 5 QB and demand like one" behaviour.

 

[Diehardblues]

Does Brady have a history of being paid a lot in his contracts? Just because the mindset is rare, is it wrong?

No, but not being the norm shouldn’t be the barometer.

 

[Diehardblues]

You don't think we'll need to rebuild w/o a QB?

We need to revamp the defense but not overall rebuild. With an average to above average defense with our top ten offense could be very competitive.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Unfortunately that’s beginning to look like best option. Tag him and trade him. If we can’t come to terms.

Its our only option if we cant come to terms.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Unless we get lucky, it'd be rebuilding time. Not sure that's such a bad idea.

A couple of first rounders and whatever else we can get would be a nice start to the rebuild. Have to retain his rights one way or the other.

Having to rebuild, however, is a crap shoot. Definitely the lessor option. Best case scenario is to sign Dak long term to a market contract.

Despite what some may think, finding another Dak is a tall task and could take many years and many wasted draft picks doing so. And as we can recall after Aikman, Jerry is NOT good at finding QB's. Romo and Dak were basically strokes of luck. I cant go through another Quincy Carter type moment.

 

[Jake]

Does Brady have a history of being paid a lot in his contracts? Just because the mindset is rare, is it wrong?

Brady has a history of being married to one of the richest women on the planet. It's hilarious to me how people ignore this obvious fact.

He had a good defense behind him and for several years had plenty of weapons. He knew he could win and he had plenty of money.

 

[CowboyRoy]

35 mils/anno 2 years ago would have been much more than 40 now.
Both numbers are way too high for Dak.

You have to view it this way: If we lose him after the 2021 season we will get (probably) a 3rd round pick as compensation. We drafted him for a 4th and get a third in return. Also had 4 years of cheap play. Thats how you do business. If we with all our draftpicks can get more back than we invested thats a win for us everytime.

I know we should get 2 firsts or at least one high first and a third for him. But then would will you do ?

Id say non exclusive tag him then let him test the open market. I dont believe someone will pay him more than 30m/anno. Not with his major injury, what he has shown in 2019 and with the cap in 2021 going down.
Anyways trade him if someone gives you 2 firsts as fast as you can. The guy is trouble all day with his "i am a top 5 QB and demand like one" behaviour.

Honestly, your a Dak hater. No sense in talking to you about it. Just about everything you said in here is complete nonsense.

 

[TwentyOne]

Honestly, your a Dak hater. No sense in talking to you about it. Just about everything you said in here is complete nonsense.

Thats a way to put it when you have no arguments.

 

[5Stars]

Honestly, your a Dak hater. No sense in talking to you about it. Just about everything you said in here is complete nonsense.

Everyone is a hater if they don't bow down to your Messiah, The Dak.