What everyone think about this mock

[CalPolyTechnique]

I knew that. This kid isn't him is he?

YES.

 

[Zekeats]

I like it but I’d rather not take CB high

with those same picks I’d rather go

10: Moehrig
44: Nixon
75: Turner
99: St Juste
115: Little

to me this draft has a ton of value in rds 2-4 and we have a ton of picks. Right now we have 6 in the first 4 rounds. I’d love to trade up and get 2 more in rds 3-4. so once I get into rd 3 I’m looking to trade up for CB, TE, LB, DT

terrible

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Honestly don't think you can skimp on CB anymore the league has changed this scheme is meant to mask certain deficiencies but you can't play the same coverages constantly with the rules that are in place now to make this game a point scoring machine. I think Surtain brings versatility be it man or zone that will make our CB duo very formidable hence why I like the pick at 10. But I get what you saying about the the scheme choice.

No. This scheme is designed to facilitate a specific type of CB. You don't need the high octane cover corner that can shut you down all over the field. Those are the guys that go first round. In this scheme, you need guys who maybe aren't as fast. They have to have good lateral movement, good quicks, decent size. They have to be intelligent, understand the game and they have to be able to play physical and tackle. Those kinds of CBs, you can find later in the draft. Those guys are not first round picks typically. This is part of why that scheme is so appealing. But if you go out and spend money on a position that you can go cheaper on, then you have to make that money up somewhere else. Maybe you don't spend as much on FS or LEO or what have you. I just don't like it.

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

Snowden is a former computer intelligence consultant who copied and leaked highly classified information from the National Security Agency in 2013 when he was a Central Intelligence Agency employee and subcontractor.

Translation: This kid ain’t playing anytime soon

Dude that guy name was Edward Snowden, the LB for UVA is Charles Snowden I'm not sure if you're being serious or just trolling.

Charles: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/charles-snowden-nfl-draft-player-profile-virginia-linebacker/

Edward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden


There's a distinct difference lol

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

No. This scheme is designed to facilitate a specific type of CB. You don't need the high octane cover corner that can shut you down all over the field. Those are the guys that go first round. In this scheme, you need guys who maybe aren't as fast. They have to have good lateral movement, good quicks, decent size. They have to be intelligent, understand the game and they have to be able to play physical and tackle. Those kinds of CBs, you can find later in the draft. Those guys are not first round picks typically. This is part of why that scheme is so appealing. But if you go out and spend money on a position that you can go cheaper on, then you have to make that money up somewhere else. Maybe you don't spend as much on FS or LEO or what have you. I just don't like it.

Bro I get that you don't like it but why pass on a legit CB talent when he'd excel in the system to try to gamble on a lower ranked player? I think when it comes to the draft you try to take as many proven talents as possible, he's definitely a proven commodity at CB and well worth the 10th pick.

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

you think Moehrig is not starting day 1?

if course he will

He would have to if you take him at 10 but he's a reach at 10 and to assume you're just going to be able to trade out that spot is even more of a stretch. But based on talent I don't think he's sure fire game changing top 10 material just for the sake of saying you drafted a highly ranked safety in this draft class which is not the strongest this year. You got Kazee so that you don't have to make these type knee jerk decisions but that's my take on it.

 

[visionary]

He would have to if you take him at 10 but he's a reach at 10 and to assume you're just going to be able to trade out that spot is even more of a stretch. But based on talent I don't think he's sure fire game changing top 10 material just for the sake of saying you drafted a highly ranked safety in this draft class which is not the strongest this year. You got Kazee so that you don't have to make these type knee jerk decisions but that's my take on it.

I think it comes down to a fundamental philosophical difference in what a great defense needs. I believe great defense needs a great DL, great MLB and great safety play. I don’t rely on Kazee because of his injury and because he is a one year rental. You would rather have a bunch of CBs running around

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Dude that guy name was Edward Snowden, the LB for UVA is Charles Snowden I'm not sure if you're being serious or just trolling.

Charles: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/charles-snowden-nfl-draft-player-profile-virginia-linebacker/

Edward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden


There's a distinct difference lol

This was taken from the UVA sports page (pic below). It’s clear he’s trying to reinvent himself as a football player, but he won’t be let back in the country. Not on my watch.

Charles Snowden -LB

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Bro I get that you don't like it but why pass on a legit CB talent when he'd excel in the system to try to gamble on a lower ranked player? I think when it comes to the draft you try to take as many proven talents as possible, he's definitely a proven commodity at CB and well worth the 10th pick.

Because you already drafted a CB high last year. That guy, he's gonna be here for a little while I think. What does that mean for the team? It means that you are going to have to pay a big number to him once he's done with his rookie contract. Then, you are going to have to hope that you picked well at 10 this year and what happens, you guessed it. You then have to pay up on him as well. A revenue savings against the cap becomes a drain. I mean, this stuff where you have to watch CBs walk out the door doesn't happen by accident. It happens because teams manage their cap poorly. So we just watched that happen to us with Jones. We are gonna see it again. That's why you don't take a corner high here.

But how do you know that you would be taking a "lower ranked player" here? Surtain, he's not that great. He's good but he's not a top 10 talent in most years at CB IMO. He gets press because he played at Bama and because of his Dad. He may not even be the best CB talent in this draft. Farley is better but for his surgery and I 100% believe that Horne is better as well. If Newsom puts up the same kind of season he did the year before at Northwestern, He's better. Robinson from UCF, you can make an argument that he's a better fit for us as well. He's certainly a better Press Corner. I flat out love the Georgia Corner and if you want a Corner who comes from a big time program with a high degree of pedigree, then you can look at Asante Samuel Jr, who has more skills all the way around IMO, just not the size.

There are a lot of really good CBs in this draft that you get later IMO. You don't have to spend a top 10 pick on one and again, there is no guarantee that there won't be a better talent available at 10 IMO.

 

[tyke1doe]

YES.

Wow!
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[AsthmaField]

lol ^^^
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What I think about this draft is that it would be a nightmare for me to see these three picks:

• Micha Parsons —-> NYG
• Jeremiah Owusu-Karamoah —-> Philly
• Tevin Jenkins —-> WFT

All three of those guys are personal favorites of mine. Watching all three come in-division would ruin my day.

Tevin Jenkins in Washington would be very bad.

 

[Croomraider]

Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer a trade down and take him but if he’s a long term FS starter and is worth the 17th then he’s worth the 10th

I would definitely be hyped up for any scenario we get him! 10 is fine by me!

 

[Croomraider]

lol ^^^
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What I think about this draft is that it would be a nightmare for me to see these three picks:

• Micha Parsons —-> NYG
• Jeremiah Owusu-Karamoah —-> Philly
• Tevin Jenkins —-> WFT

All three of those guys are personal favorites of mine. Watching all three come in-division would ruin my day.

Tevin Jenkins in Washington would be very bad.

All these guys are good! Azeez Ojulari is another guy I wouldn't want to see in the NFC East.

 

[Cowboyny]

I like this draft a lot, if you can come away with this haul you have solved most of the D problems, the OT future and a nice developmental QB.


10. Dallas Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II, CB - Alabama

This might be the most common non-quarterback mock right now. Patrick Surtain II already offered enough traits and on-field production to place himself as the draft’s top corner, but an impressive Pro Day performance seemingly solidified that. Surtain joins his former teammate, Trevon Diggs, to give Dallas one of the better young cornerback tandems in the NFL.

44. Dallas Cowboys - Richie Grant, S - UCF

The Cowboys have already added Damontae Kazee to be their centerfield safety in Dan Quinn’s scheme, but his contract indicates Dallas doesn’t view him as the long-term answer. Richie Grant played a similar role at UCF, and he displayed the kind of ball hawk skills that netted him 10 interceptions through three years. Between Kazee and Grant, Dallas would have some great options for the pivotal free safety role in their new scheme.

75. Dallas Cowboys - Carlos Basham Jr., EDGE - Wake Forest

Dan Quinn’s tenure in Atlanta revealed a lot about his approach to building a defense, namely that he prioritized coverage and pass rush. The Cowboys have DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory already, and they brought in Tarell Basham along the edge too. Now they add his cousin, Carlos Basham Jr. This Basham is an ideal fit in Quinn’s scheme, and his power rushing skills - which yielded 20 sacks in three years at Wake Forest - would make for a great contrast between Gregory’s overwhelming athleticism.

99. Dallas Cowboys - Marlon Tuipulotu, DT - USC

The Cowboys double-dipped on coverage players and now double-dip on pass rush with Marlon Tuipulotu. They already have some promising young defensive tackles in Trysten Hill and Neville Gallimore, but Tuipulotu offers great athleticism when rushing up the middle, and his value as a run defender is something this defense was sorely missing last year. He’ll figure into a very deep rotation at defensive tackle for Dallas in year one.

115. Dallas Cowboys - Walker Little, OT - Stanford

The Cowboys learned the hard way last year what happens when you don’t have good depth on the offensive line. And while it seems like Tyron Smith and La’el Collins are both on track to return next season, it would be prudent to figure out a succession plan going forward, especially for Smith. Walker Little seems ideal for that plan. Little was once a surefire first-round prospect, but his 2019 season was cut short due to injury and he decided to opt out of the 2020 season, so his stock has tumbled quite a bit. Little won’t have to play right away in Dallas and can thus focus on getting back into the shape that once had scouts buzzing about his potential to become an elite left tackle in the NFL.

138. Dallas Cowboys - Charles Snowden, LB - Virginia

When the Cowboys added Keanu Neal with the idea of playing him at linebacker, it was clear that Dan Quinn wants tough linebackers who can cover. Neither Jaylon Smith (75.9% completion rate allowed the last three years) nor Leighton Vander Esch (missed 13 games the last two seasons) fit that bill, but Charles Snowden does. His insane length and play style seem custom made for a Quinn defense, and landing him this late in the draft is a massive coup.

179. Dallas Cowboys - Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR - Iowa

Fans may not like this, but it’s a fact: the Cowboys will have to make a decision about their receiving corps next offseason. The decision not to restructure Amari Cooper’s contract strongly hints that they’ll choose between him and the expiring rookie deal of Michael Gallup. Either way, Dallas is gearing up to lose a receiver, so drafting a replacement this year seems smart given how deep this class is. Ihmir Smith-Marsette was a playmaker in every sense of the word for Iowa, but a struggling offense and an injury to end the year has kept him under the radar. Smith-Marsette offers a similar skill set to Lamb in terms of athleticism and versatility, and the

192. Dallas Cowboys (from DET) - Khyiris Tonga, DT - BYU

The Cowboys have already taken moves to shore up their run defense in the trenches, tendering Antwaun Woods and signing Brent Urban. There is still more work to be done, and adding the massive Khyiris Tonga - measured at 6’4” and 322 pounds - would help. Tonga is mostly a nose tackle who offers value on rushing downs, which is why he’s still available at this point in the draft. But Dallas has already learned what happens when you don’t have those kinds of guys, and they can’t afford to make the same mistake again.

227. Dallas Cowboys - Camryn Bynum, CB - California

At this point in the draft you’re mostly looking for depth guys and special teams contributors, and that’s why Camryn Bynum is the pick. He offers the frame to be a corner in this defense and he brings plenty of experience as a four-year starter. Bynum shouldn’t be counted on as a starting cornerback, but he the has athleticism and physicality that is needed for special teams work. Both Dan Quinn and John Fassel will love this pick.

238. Dallas Cowboys - Zac Thomas, QB - Appalachian State

Mike McCarthy has been pretty open about his desire to take quarterbacks late in the draft with the intent of developing them and flipping for more draft capital later on. They tried it with Ben DiNucci, and might try it again this year. If so, Zac Thomas is a great target. He helped guide Appalachian State through the best stretch of its football program and has a similar playing style to Dak Prescott. He played at a much lower level of competition, which is why he’s a seventh-round pick and not a fourth-round pick, but Thomas has the kind of skills to wow in preseason for a few years while serving as a solid backup option. Just what McCarthy wants.

I love it! Rounds 1-4 are homerun selections.

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

This was taken from the UVA sports page (pic below). It’s clear he’s trying to reinvent himself as a football player, but he won’t be let back in the country. Not on my watch.

Charles Snowden -LB

It's clear you're an idiot lmao!!!

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

Because you already drafted a CB high last year. That guy, he's gonna be here for a little while I think. What does that mean for the team? It means that you are going to have to pay a big number to him once he's done with his rookie contract. Then, you are going to have to hope that you picked well at 10 this year and what happens, you guessed it. You then have to pay up on him as well. A revenue savings against the cap becomes a drain. I mean, this stuff where you have to watch CBs walk out the door doesn't happen by accident. It happens because teams manage their cap poorly. So we just watched that happen to us with Jones. We are gonna see it again. That's why you don't take a corner high here.

But how do you know that you would be taking a "lower ranked player" here? Surtain, he's not that great. He's good but he's not a top 10 talent in most years at CB IMO. He gets press because he played at Bama and because of his Dad. He may not even be the best CB talent in this draft. Farley is better but for his surgery and I 100% believe that Horne is better as well. If Newsom puts up the same kind of season he did the year before at Northwestern, He's better. Robinson from UCF, you can make an argument that he's a better fit for us as well. He's certainly a better Press Corner. I flat out love the Georgia Corner and if you want a Corner who comes from a big time program with a high degree of pedigree, then you can look at Asante Samuel Jr, who has more skills all the way around IMO, just not the size.

There are a lot of really good CBs in this draft that you get later IMO. You don't have to spend a top 10 pick on one and again, there is no guarantee that there won't be a better talent available at 10 IMO.

You're clearly speculating on what players like Samuel Jr who by the way was one of the players who literally quit on FSU and Farley who is coming off an injury plus he sat out last year will be. In this league you have to have a duo of top notch corners or else the OC's will just pick on the other once he realized he can't attack the other. I like Newsome alot myself because he provides very skilled CB traits including leading CFB in lowest deep ball percentage. But to totally try to dismiss Surtain as not being as good or some type of overhype athlete because of his father and Bama is ridiculous. He's proven to be one of the top CB's not only in this draft but if I'm not mistaken did he not win the Thorpe award as the best DB in all of college football last year? I get that you can't have a steak on every plate but if you're picking in the top 10 you best believe who ever you pick better be the best at their position and he's clearly that.

 

[kskboys]

I like it but I’d rather not take CB high

with those same picks I’d rather go

10: Moehrig
44: Nixon
75: Turner
99: St Juste
115: Little

to me this draft has a ton of value in rds 2-4 and we have a ton of picks. Right now we have 6 in the first 4 rounds. I’d love to trade up and get 2 more in rds 3-4. so once I get into rd 3 I’m looking to trade up for CB, TE, LB, DT

This is the best draft for us I've seen.

 

[kskboys]

Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer a trade down and take him but if he’s a long term FS starter and is worth the 17th then he’s worth the 10th

Value of a player rises w/ need.

 

[kskboys]

Honestly don't think you can skimp on CB anymore the league has changed this scheme is meant to mask certain deficiencies but you can't play the same coverages constantly with the rules that are in place now to make this game a point scoring machine. I think Surtain brings versatility be it man or zone that will make our CB duo very formidable hence why I like the pick at 10. But I get what you saying about the the scheme choice.

Now take this a step further. W/ the league changing to passing, pass rush and a ballhawk at S become even more important. Strength at CB is negated w/o strong DL and S play.

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

Now take this a step further. W/ the league changing to passing, pass rush and a ballhawk at S become even more important. Strength at CB is negated w/o strong DL and S play.

The problem in all that there are not any safeties or DL worthy of taking at the 10th spot so while yes you need a ball hawking safety that does not mean you simply just go select a name at 10 because he's been listed as a position of need. There are some people that say the Grant kid at UCF is the best FS in this draft ahead of the kid from TCU after his performance at the senior bowl. But at this point I just don't see how people can really say take any of these FS before you take Surtain II at 10.