Draft Strategy Question

[Dalmations202]

Do you think Dallas would take this strategy, if the opportunity presented itself?

I wonder if you could trade down to 12-15 and pick up a 2nd, and then trade down to 20ish and pick up another second. Then use 20 for Barmore.
That would leave 3 seconds. Use the 4-7th round picks to trade back up enough to pick up (Collins or Bolton), (Grant or Moehrig), and a CB (maybe Eric Stokes). Then hopefully get McNeil at the top of 3.

That would take some special falling, but give me Barmore and McNeil at the 3T/1T respectively, the MLB, the FS and Stokes to play with Diggs, Lewis, Brown and I would call it one very good draft.

Any draft picks left could pickup other OL, DE, or any other player they think they might be able to develop for that matter.

Does Dallas see enough value in strengthening their middle defense to try this strategy?

 

[charron]

Well i'd rather trade down to 15, pick Horn then trade back up into the late 1st to grab Barrmore.

 

[fivetwos]

Do you think Dallas would take this strategy, if the opportunity presented itself?

I wonder if you could trade down to 12-15 and pick up a 2nd, and then trade down to 20ish and pick up another second. Then use 20 for Barmore.
That would leave 3 seconds. Use the 4-7th round picks to trade back up enough to pick up (Collins or Bolton), (Grant or Moehrig), and a CB (maybe Eric Stokes). Then hopefully get McNeil at the top of 3.

That would take some special falling, but give me Barmore and McNeil at the 3T/1T respectively, the MLB, the FS and Stokes to play with Diggs, Lewis, Brown and I would call it one very good draft.

Any draft picks left could pickup other OL, DE, or any other player they think they might be able to develop for that matter.

Does Dallas see enough value in strengthening their middle defense to try this strategy?

I'd like to see them go about things this way, but I don't know that the price to move from 10 to 12-15 is a second.

Also don't wish to end up with Barmore. Not a fan.

 

[morasp]

Possibly, I'm thinking they might use some the day three picks to move back into round 3 and possibly get another player with a starting grade. I t would surprise me if they used all their picks on players.

 

[Cowboyny]

Do you think Dallas would take this strategy, if the opportunity presented itself?

I wonder if you could trade down to 12-15 and pick up a 2nd, and then trade down to 20ish and pick up another second. Then use 20 for Barmore.
That would leave 3 seconds. Use the 4-7th round picks to trade back up enough to pick up (Collins or Bolton), (Grant or Moehrig), and a CB (maybe Eric Stokes). Then hopefully get McNeil at the top of 3.

That would take some special falling, but give me Barmore and McNeil at the 3T/1T respectively, the MLB, the FS and Stokes to play with Diggs, Lewis, Brown and I would call it one very good draft.

Any draft picks left could pickup other OL, DE, or any other player they think they might be able to develop for that matter.

Does Dallas see enough value in strengthening their middle defense to try this strategy?

Trade down once will be difficult, twice highly unlikely. After the first say top 7-8 prospects, many will have similar grades through the top 40. Also, if you have a chance to draft one of those top 8 players, it would be foolish to trade back.

 

[Dalmations202]

Well i'd rather trade down to 15, pick Horn then trade back up into the late 1st to grab Barrmore.

Yes, but it would take much to trade back up and you would only be able to grab one 2nd that way. Horn, Barmore and even one more doesn't seem like as good a haul to me.
I am pretty certain that if someone wanted say Jones at 10, you would be able to pick up a 2nd. That second 2nd would be the key for me, if you could still stay in the 20's.

 

[Dalmations202]

Trade down once will be difficult, twice highly unlikely. After the first say top 7-8 prospects, many will have similar grades through the top 40. Also, if you have a chance to draft one of those top 8 players, it would be foolish to trade back.

Agreed, but if Dallas isn't enamored with the QB's, Pitts and Surtain are gone, and they think Smith, Collins, Knight, Steele, Hyatt, Alercon, and Nsekhe are enough at Tackle. Maybe Horn or Farley, but I can see the injury causing Farley to fall and maybe they don't like Horn. I am not sure that doing a couple of trade backs, which can get them 2nds wouldn't be the best strategy -- and try and strengthen the middle of that D.

 

[charron]

Yes, but it would take much to trade back up and you would only be able to grab one 2nd that way. Horn, Barmore and even one more doesn't seem like as good a haul to me.
I am pretty certain that if someone wanted say Jones at 10, you would be able to pick up a 2nd. That second 2nd would be the key for me, if you could still stay in the 20's.

i'm thinking we can trade down to new england at 15 and get a 2nd. They'll get a QB. We take horn then use our 2 2nd rounders to trade up which should be enough just depends with whom.

 

[Cowboyny]

Agreed, but if Dallas isn't enamored with the QB's, Pitts and Surtain are gone, and they think Smith, Collins, Knight, Steele, Hyatt, Alercon, and Nsekhe are enough at Tackle. Maybe Horn or Farley, but I can see the injury causing Farley to fall and maybe they don't like Horn. I am not sure that doing a couple of trade backs, which can get them 2nds wouldn't be the best strategy -- and try and strengthen the middle of that D.

I don't think they are fine at Tackle, especially with Tyron Smith.

 

[Verdict]

Dallas will look long at hard at the players on the board at #10. There should be a couple of guys there at #10 that they can use, but the ones that merit the pick will probably all be offensive players.

It would take quite a bit for Dallas to trade down below about #12 or #13. The talent level seems to drop a tier after somewhere between 10 and 13 picks.

Then the next tier of players seems to be very shallow (maybe 4 or 5 more players) and then it’s a long tier of players from about 18-45.

If Dallas trades back more than 1-3 spots I think it’s going to cost the team a LOT to move up. At least a second round pick or a 1st next year. If the board has washed out for Dallas then that analysis might chance some.

If a top tier OT, Pitts, or one of the blue chip WR are there it’s going to be really hard for Dallas to move off of that pick without SIGNIFICANT compensation to do so.

If Dallas trades back to around #18, I think Horn or the Tulsa linebacker make some sense at around that pick. They could move back and still take an offensive player there at the lower pick.

 

[Verdict]

I may be in the minority, but I don’t think Dallas will trade down and then trade back up to get back into the first round unless they really LOVE a player. Too much value in that third tier to move up to grab a player from that shallow class of tier two players.

There is not enough difference between classes 2 and 3 to give up two players for one. There is enough difference between players in tier 1 and tier 2 to give up two players to go get one of them for a team in love with one of them.

If Pitts, one of the stud OTs, a WR and a QB is there at #10 we could have teams bidding for a spot to select different players but they all need the same draft slot. That would be ideal. Even better if they want the same player.

 

[cheyennes]

Take a DL first, CB and OL class are deep, trade down for a DL, and get CB and OL in the second