Newsome is the best CB

[stilltheguru]

Greg Newsome runs fast, but disappoints in drills
The situation was very different for cornerback Greg Newsome. While the junior ran much faster in the forty than most expected at Northwestern’s 2021 Pro Day, timing 4.38 seconds, he looked terrible in position drills. One scout described Newsome as stiff while others said Newsome was gassed early on in position drills, which left a bad taste in the mouths of NFL decision-makers.

 

[jblaze2004]

Now, of course that is an attention grabbing headline, but here's why I say that. Newsome brings an extra 2nd round pick along with him. Amongst all the multitude of draft talk and shows I've seen, the following gem of wisdom was shared.

Drafting a premium man coverage specialist is a waste in an 85% zone scheme that the Cowboys will be implementing this year.

So, why draft a specialist in man coverage when a great zone CB, Newsome is available in the late teens. (according to draft guides is a specialist in zone coverage and plays it to the maximum) So, take a chance trade down for an additional second rounder, then trade up to get

Newsome, at #18, Collins or Bolton at #29-33, then get Grant or Ardarius Washington at #44, then trade up into the #57-63 range to get Marvin Wilson

Surtain/Horn are better at man coverage, but neither is better than a combination of Newsome and Collins.

Exactly. I don't want to waste a premium pick on a corner to play a mainly zone scheme.

 

[cheyennes]

Many teams play two Palms

 

[Beaker42]

I mean, it's ok to just rank Newsome ahead of Horn lol.

Neither is a good pick at 10, but the idea of being a good pick in a trade down applies to both.

Not starting a fight - what determines someone NOT being a good pick at 10? Is it perceived slotting of said player? Is it relative to who else is available? Just curious.

 

[stilltheguru]

Not starting a fight - what determines someone NOT being a good pick at 10? Is it perceived slotting of said player? Is it relative to who else is available? Just curious.

Whoever draft experts tell them is what makes a good pick.

 

[nathanlt]

Not starting a fight - what determines someone NOT being a good pick at 10? Is it perceived slotting of said player? Is it relative to who else is available? Just curious.

Well, I think that if there's a close grouping of talent at a position like CB, and you have a grade of 9.1, 9.0, 8.9 and 8.8 it just doesn't hurt to trade down, if a 2nd rounder is offered and end up with a player with a slightly lower grade. This is emphasized if a zone scheme minimizes the need for a man to man cover guy. I'd love to add Zaven Collins or Nick Bolton in addition to a top flight corner out of the group of 4.

Of course, staying at 10 eliminates that opportunity for presumably the guy graded at 9.1 Of course, we know that the top graded WR fell all the way to Dallas pick last year, so trading down might still get the CB that Dallas has graded highest.

 

[Canada180]

I’d take Newsome at 44 10 times out of 10 over Surtain/Horn at 10.

I see very little difference in drop off.

If you pass on Surtain? Horn there is no guarantee that Newsome makes it to 44

 

[CATCH17]

Now, of course that is an attention grabbing headline, but here's why I say that. Newsome brings an extra 2nd round pick along with him. Amongst all the multitude of draft talk and shows I've seen, the following gem of wisdom was shared.

Drafting a premium man coverage specialist is a waste in an 85% zone scheme that the Cowboys will be implementing this year.

So, why draft a specialist in man coverage when a great zone CB, Newsome is available in the late teens. (according to draft guides is a specialist in zone coverage and plays it to the maximum) So, take a chance trade down for an additional second rounder, then trade up to get

Newsome, at #18, Collins or Bolton at #29-33, then get Grant or Ardarius Washington at #44, then trade up into the #57-63 range to get Marvin Wilson

Surtain/Horn are better at man coverage, but neither is better than a combination of Newsome and Collins.

100% agree that it’s a waste if we’re going to sit in zone all game.

 

[cnuball21]

If you pass on Surtain? Horn there is no guarantee that Newsome makes it to 44

Perfectly fine...keep going down the list.

Plenty of dudes in rounds 2/3 that came come in and be solid in a zone scheme.

 

[unionjack8]

Nice write up on top dbs here.....

 

[Canada180]

Perfectly fine...keep going down the list.

Plenty of dudes in rounds 2/3 that came come in and be solid in a zone scheme.

No problem with that. Just replying to your Newsome reference at 44

 

[cnuball21]

No problem with that. Just replying to your Newsome reference at 44

I get ya...I could see him going bottom of first.

You still have Meli, Stokes, Campbell, Adebo etc...

 

[Rayman70]

Newsome is an off corner. Maybe better in the slot at the pro level. I guess it all depends what a team asks him to do.

 

[xwalker]

Now, of course that is an attention grabbing headline, but here's why I say that. Newsome brings an extra 2nd round pick along with him. Amongst all the multitude of draft talk and shows I've seen, the following gem of wisdom was shared.

Drafting a premium man coverage specialist is a waste in an 85% zone scheme that the Cowboys will be implementing this year.

So, why draft a specialist in man coverage when a great zone CB, Newsome is available in the late teens. (according to draft guides is a specialist in zone coverage and plays it to the maximum) So, take a chance trade down for an additional second rounder, then trade up to get

Newsome, at #18, Collins or Bolton at #29-33, then get Grant or Ardarius Washington at #44, then trade up into the #57-63 range to get Marvin Wilson

Surtain/Horn are better at man coverage, but neither is better than a combination of Newsome and Collins.

Modern NFL defenses need to be good at both man and zone.

 

[nathanlt]

Modern NFL defenses need to be good at both man and zone.

I get it, but using a premium man to man cover guy in zone is a waste of draft position. A defense is better with 2 upgrades instead of one. I am hopeful that Dallas will attempt to get an additional second rounder for the trade down.

Of course, Dallas uses players in out-of-position assignments quite often. Sigh...

 

[Future]

Not starting a fight - what determines someone NOT being a good pick at 10? Is it perceived slotting of said player? Is it relative to who else is available? Just curious.

It's always relative to who else is/should be on the board. That's as true for #10 as it is for #100.