Saints trying to move up into top 10

[JD_KaPow]

I agree. It would have to be a ‘QB deal’ in terms of costs.

"QB deals" are no more costly than other deals, at least outside of trading up to #1 or #2.

The Chiefs traded to 10 for Mahomes. They traded 27, 91 and their 1st-rounder the following year. They actually paid a little less than the chart said they should have.

 

[cnuball21]

I would consider such a far move back and take advantage of the depth on day 2 in this draft. Probably could get a huge package. They have 3 day 2 picks, we could get all that plus future considerations.

Obviously depends on who's there at 10, but I'd strongly consider if they offered their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

We could have 28 and then package back up to get close to the bottom of the 1st / early 2nd if we wanted to.

 

[Stash]

"QB deals" are no more costly than other deals, at least outside of trading up to #1 or #2.

The Chiefs traded to 10 for Mahomes. They traded 27, 91 and their 1st-rounder the following year. They actually paid a little less than the chart said they should have.

How about San Francisco this year?

 

[Cowboyny]

Obviously depends on who's there at 10, but I'd strongly consider if they offered their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

We could have 28 and then package back up to get close to the bottom of the 1st / early 2nd if we wanted to.

Now I hear it's for Sewell, which makes it unlikely, but going back to the trade scenario, we could get 3 day 2 picks (although late) a 4 and future considerations. I would ask for Marcus Williams and those day 3 picks.

Would give us a treasure chest of assets to move around anywhere we want to go, could fix the defense in a hurry.

 

[mardwin]

I would consider such a far move back and take advantage of the depth on day 2 in this draft. Probably could get a huge package. They have 3 day 2 picks, we could get all that plus future considerations.

I would take 3 first and a 2nd to go from 28 to #10. Dallas better consider all options

 

[Cowboyny]

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/you-want-to-trade.476883/

The trade that makes the most sense is:
10+115 for 28+60+2022 1st rounder

Another blockbuster possibility:
10+138 for 28+60+98+105+2022 2nd rounder

The 2nd option is real nice. That would be a war chest for picks this year.

 

[Tussinman]

I’ve read that it’s Sewell.

That's even weirder because the saints arguably have the second best tackle tandem in the entire NFL

 

[Verdict]

Would completley depend on who is available at 10.

Agree. I think if Pitts or Sewell is on the board, it is doubtful that we would trade that far down without significant compensation.

 

[Verdict]

No they don’t. New Orleans would have to give up a ton to make a jump that big. I just can’t see it.

Yes, the draft consideration would have to probably be picks 1, 2 and 3 this year And a 1st next year. Of course that could go a long way toward fixing this defense if we drafted well.

Most likely the Cowboys would try to move back up a little bit.

 

[fivetwos]

I wouldn't mind gambling that New Orleans first next year is top 10.

I see a rough year w that QB situation.

 

[fivetwos]

I also find it tough to believe that anyone with QB issues of their own would give up a QB type haul to move up to not get a QB.

They probably want a Fields or Lance, but they will need to drop past 10 to make it reasonably affordable.

 

[Flamma]

If the Saints traded with us they'd have to give up a fortune. It would include future picks. I'm not big on a trade back with them.

 

[RS12]

The value in this draft is between 20 and 60 so loading up there would be a good idea. I doubt Billy Bob wants to wait 6 hours to get the gratuitous shot of him talking on the phone though.

 

[Croomraider]

I would consider such a far move back and take advantage of the depth on day 2 in this draft. Probably could get a huge package. They have 3 day 2 picks, we could get all that plus future considerations.

I don't want any day 2's for that far a fall back.

28th pick = 660
10th pick = 1300

640 difference

1st this year (28th) and 1st next year at least one of their day 2 this year as well.

 

[Irse]

Would do it for a 1st and 2nd this year and a 1st and rd next year. If they want #10 that badly.

 

[JD_KaPow]

How about San Francisco this year?

That one's a little hard to judge because of all the future picks. The deal was

3 (2200 pts)

for

12 (1200 pts)
2022 1st rounder (~400 pts if we apply a round discount)
2022 3rd rounder (~75 pts if we apply a round discount)
2023 1st rounder (~200 if we apply a 2-round discount)

So, Miami received something like 1875 points. Again, this really depends on how you value future picks, but it sure doesn't look like the '9ers overpaid by the chart.

 

[Stash]

That one's a little hard to judge because of all the future picks. The deal was

3 (2200 pts)

for

12 (1200 pts)
2022 1st rounder (~400 pts if we apply a round discount)
2022 3rd rounder (~75 pts if we apply a round discount)
2023 1st rounder (~200 if we apply a 2-round discount)

So, Miami received something like 1875 points. Again, this really depends on how you value future picks, but it sure doesn't look like the '9ers overpaid by the chart.

I’d say the chart looks more than a bit wonky.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I’d say the chart looks more than a bit wonky.

The first few picks are really expensive. To go from 12 to 3, you have to give up the equivalent of the 16th pick in the draft. That's a lot of capital that's hard to amass with later-round and future picks.

But yes, the traditional chart massively overvalues early picks in the draft. But it's what teams use.

 

[beware_d-ware]

1 + 1 + 2 is what my gut instinct would be for that pick... looks like it's not too far off the chart.

Heck yes I would take that deal. The only way I wouldn't is if Sewell is there, but for Surtain or Horn? Pffft, take them.

Pitts? Gone.

Fields? Man.... I would have gladly taken him if we didn't give Dak a huge deal, but no way we can take Fields now (see Rodgers, Aaron C).

Lance? Lol.

Jones? Lol, gimme those first rounders.

 

[Sarge]

They want Surtain or Horn

Ya, I think they want Horn.