Parsons confirms 3-4 base and initial position

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel
I think these rookies and Atlanta castoffs are going to play. There is a real chance Jaylon/LVE will be benched for Micah/Neal. I want to be careful about putting pressure on young players but I think you will see the drafted defensive lineman getting plenty of reps. The Cowboys defense just had a major overhaul. The only holdovers appear to be Tank, Gregory and Diggs.
 

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I know they keep talking about 3-4 as the base defense but I have to believe it'll be more of a 4-3 under than a traditional 3-4. Just my opinion though
 

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel
best to say we have zero idea wheat we will be running until we see it..anything said now in pubic is smoke screen. Until they suit up , practice and let Quinn find the roles for them, its noting but offseason boredom bone throwing..keep is interested..
 

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel

Yes, Quinn said 70% to 80% of the time they'll be in the nickel but I wonder how correct that is. When they take the field on first and 10, against most teams in the division, I'd guess they will be in a 3-4. Clearly on passing downs they'll be in the nickel. But it really depends upon the offense they're up against and the personnel.
 

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I agree.

They can call it whatever they like, but a straight up 43 base never has its rushers standing up....on any down.

I still say that DLaw was not comfortable at all standing up. He played well overall, but most of it was later on, when they seemed to dumb it down a bit to what they were used to.

I'm personally starting to think they may phase him out....and that's not the dumbest thing, considering cap figures of 27 and 29m after this year.

Oh yeah. Enormous costs for decreasing production? The writing is on the wall there I think.
 

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel

The days of playing one formation exclusively are gone. Every team in the NFL runs dimes, nickels, 4-3, 3-4, 3-3-5, 4-2-5, you name it.

That's why it's great to have athletic guys with versatility.
 

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That’s what Quinn said in his news conference. Said they’ll play both to keep up with the nfl and how it’s changing. 3-4 for prob 30-40% of the time then 4-3 nickel the other. Either way parsons shouldn’t leave the field being picked this high

In theory it sounds like a great plan. My concern isn't really fair to most these guys, but in the past whenever we have had more than a simple defense they've struggled to learn and understand their responsibilities. I just hope he doesn't over complicate things.
 

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I'm just excited to see all the new faces and what they offer, no matter what how they line up.

I know I'm wearing homer glasses, but this feels like real change to me. Maybe after last year's disaster I just a little too hopeful. I might me setting myself for disappointment but I like what they've done.
 

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I have to say that confuses me a bit. To me, the advantage of the 3-4 is in its ability to disguise things, especially blitzes and pressure. The trade off is having less size and numbers on the line of scrimmage in the run game.

Why run that in base downs only to change it up in obvious passing downs? That doesn’t make sense to me.
I think he is referencing the Seattle style base defense, surely with some modification. The positioning of the Leo resembles a 3-4. He plays wide and can either put his hand on the ground or rush from a standing position.

The DTs for the most part would not line up at 0. The "NT" would look more like a 1-tech or a 1i-tech.

You can call it a 4-3, but it resembles a 3-4 and uses similar principles. It would not be the traditional 3-4 in which you have a fire plug, 0-tech NT and bulky, run-stopping ILBs. You are concentrating on more disruptive inside players.

I think that is DQ's aim. But I could easily be wrong.
 

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DQ literally said that in "base" they will look like a 3-4.

Nickel only has 2 LBers...so it's not a 4-3. This is what they're in 60-70% of the time.
Agree. It seems like a lot of fan disagreements about defensive personnel are rooted in an assumption that "base" is synonymous with "what we will be playing most of the time". It might be misleading because of the name but NFL personnel departments and coaching staffs still use "base" and "nickel" the same way they used the terms 20 years ago despite the fact that the percentage of playing one versus the other has inverted in that time period.
 
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