NFC way too early optics

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Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.
 

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I think the optics needs some glasses. :laugh:

7 to 10 wins?
10 at the minimum, if all stay healthy of course.
Dak is worth a few wins being back, with a healthy OL, Zeke will be better, TE's better, WR's even better as CeeDee in his 2nd year now.
Quinn and a better defensive scheme, better players, well, on paper better. Gives a few more wins if not 3.

That gets us to 10 or 11 wins right there.
 

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I think the optics needs some glasses. :laugh:

7 to 10 wins?
10 at the minimum, if all stay healthy of course.
Dak is worth a few wins being back, with a healthy OL, Zeke will be better, TE's better, WR's even better as CeeDee in his 2nd year now.
Quinn and a better defensive scheme, better players, well, on paper better. Gives a few more wins if not 3.

That gets us to 10 or 11 wins right there.
My beer goggles see 12 wins and at least one playoff win, if we stay healthy.
 

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My beer goggles see 12 wins and at least one playoff win, if we stay healthy.

I did not have my beer goggles on. I probably will though later tonight. I may need to repost. :muttley:
Wonder what it will be if my beer goggles have rose colored lenses. :thumbup:
 

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Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.


Seattle in the top tier? Ain’t no way in hell. Minnesota in the 2nd tier? Ain’t no way in hell. The cowboys ceiling being 7-10 wins? Ain’t no way in hell
 

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This place will implode if the Cowboys start 0-2 after facing Brady and Herbert on the road. Will the defense be ready?

tenor.gif


Then the first "must win" declaration on this board comes in week 3, which the Cowboys should win (home vs Eagles).
 

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I think the optics needs some glasses. :laugh:

7 to 10 wins?
10 at the minimum, if all stay healthy of course.
Dak is worth a few wins being back, with a healthy OL, Zeke will be better, TE's better, WR's even better as CeeDee in his 2nd year now.
Quinn and a better defensive scheme, better players, well, on paper better. Gives a few more wins if not 3.

That gets us to 10 or 11 wins right there.
People forget this. They act like this is the exact team that went 6-10 and we didn’t upgrade anything lmao
 

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People forget this. They act like this is the exact team that went 6-10 and we didn’t upgrade anything lmao

I think there are plenty of people on here that only factor in upgrades when doing this exercise. As though the Cowboys can only stay constant in one area or improve...
 

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Considering this teams success lately, including a 8-8 finish in 2019, and a porous start before Dak went down, I don't see the OP's ranking as farfetched.

I could see this team better than 7-10 wins but honestly I can't tell anymore with this team. Defense is still a work in progress and it's not like the offense didn't have it's warts when Dak was throwing for a billion yards per game in the losses/ATL miracle.
 

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I think the OP was spot on when using the words... "way too early". All the divisions are murky and have some developing to do before we have a picture of what they'll be. No one should be trying to make predictions in this fog.
 

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Don't need to hear about how things can change over the season. This thread is not a wait and see approach. So play along if you like.

Currently, I predict the top three teams as of now are Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Green Bay (as long as AR plays). My top grouping's ceiling is here with legitimate shots at the SB. Their floor is to finish average (unless injury or non availability of their QB or top three players).

The second tier are teams that I can envision ending up challenging these top teams for their spots in my ranking but more likely are higher end playoff teams that just fall shy of the elite three. They are San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Minnesota. San Francisco is a team that I could envision making a dramatic turnaround with better health (their entire squad had injuries along with their QB).

My third tier is made up of teams that I predict are the rest of the middle tier (which is the largest group because of how closely I view these squads). Any have the potential of joining the second tier here but I just cannot envision any of these teams as tier one at this time. They are Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Washington, and New Orleans. Arizona is so odd with their moves and team setup (just difficult to predict their outcome).

Bottom tier teams are more in flux (coaching and of player movement) and much more difficult to envision even making the playoffs. Carolina, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Since we are Cowboys fans, I will give you my thoughts on where I see the Cowboys' season and how they currently stack up. I can envision the Cowboys having a season record between 7 and 10 wins. I cannot really envision a much better or worse record.

Injuries aside from cowboys and opponents, I see them neck and neck with any of the tier 3 teams I mentioned. I would agree that the Cowboys offense is the best of the NFC East, but it almost entirely depends on the health of the offensive line. I predict some problems with availability along the line and play level from the top lineman when they actually play (with existing injuries).

I predict a better defensive unit, but one that has difficulties generating consistent pressure and consistent coverage units. A middle of the pack defense with a sometimes high flying offense is my prediction. If the Cowboys can get a 4-2 division record without being swept by anyone, then I can imagine a division title and playoff appearance.

That's pretty much it. Kinda just more sideways action though some here feel a division title is a major step up. I do not. The NFC East and NFC in general feels too oddball and not enough squads exist with the best run front offices and coaching staffs. There are no organizations like the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs in the conference.

I actually miss Andy Reid being in the same division. At least you could count on him making his squad a decent team for the most part.
Thanks for your analysis
 

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This place will implode if the Cowboys start 0-2 after facing Brady and Herbert on the road. Will the defense be ready?

tenor.gif


Then the first "must win" declaration on this board comes in week 3, which the Cowboys should win (home vs Eagles).


I totally agree with all this. But in defense of this fanbase they should expect good play and are all starving for a good strong team. Hopefully we can split the first 2.
 

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Did we forget about what Seattle was for the second half of last season? They flat out stunk, and they haven't gotten better this offseason. You could pretty much say the same thing about the Rams.

If everyone's healthy, the only teams you can consider putting in a tier above Dallas are Tampa and GB.
 

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Considering this teams success lately, including a 8-8 finish in 2019, and a porous start before Dak went down, I don't see the OP's ranking as farfetched.

I could see this team better than 7-10 wins but honestly I can't tell anymore with this team. Defense is still a work in progress and it's not like the offense didn't have it's warts when Dak was throwing for a billion yards per game in the losses/ATL miracle.
I think you guys forget other teams tend to play their best games against us.

We are into some tough close games this year. I put our preseason record at 9-8. No playoffs.
 
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