Dak gets another Top 5 ranking

[DeaconMoss]

That was after the 2019 season which I’d agree his rankings were more like 8th-12th. But his stock has risen since then.

Dak is coming off a bad injury. We hope it doesn't affect his play.
Lost 3 of 4 games last year.
Offense was bad in redzone.
Offense was bad in first half of games against base Defenses.
=
Stock is on a meteoric rise

 

[Captain-Crash]

An anonymous fan on a Cowboys fan forum bashing our QB could make you a Troll. Especially one from enemy territory.

What’s the old saying. If it looks and sounds like a duck.

Get out here with that BS that if you don't live in Texas you're the enemy or not a real Cowboy fan. Smh.

 

[Diehardblues]

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

btw, are you going to tell us in the past 5 years

that Cousins is a better QB is than Peyton Manning was. He has better QB rating than him....
or in the past 5 years
or that cousins is better than Rothlisberger? Cousins has better ratings and more passing.
or that cousins is better than Phillip Rivers? cousins has better ratings, but about the same passing
or that cousins is better than Tom Brady? he has better ratings and more passing yards


is that what you are trying to show with the stats you keep pounding?

Manning retired in 2015, so yes, Cousins has been better the past 5 years because he has played.

Big Ben? The past 5 years? Yeah, I'm taking Cosuins. Ben only has 1 season in the past 5 years better then Cousins.

Rivers? The past 5 years? He has TWO season with at least 20 INTS in the past 5 years. I 100% take Cousins.

Brady? Brady is the GOAT. I'm not taking Cousins over him.

 

[Diehardblues]

Get out here with that BS that if you don't live in Texas you're the enemy or not a real Cowboy fan. Smh.

That’s not what I said.

Don’t need to be Columbo to see a new fan who came on this site while Daks negotiations were underway from deep in enemy territory bashing our QB to smell a skunk.

Research his post and threads. It’s all he’s interested in. Bashing Dak..Busted!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak is coming off a bad injury. We hope it doesn't affect his play.
Lost 3 of 4 games last year.
Offense was bad in redzone.
Offense was bad in first half of games against base Defenses.
=
Stock is on a meteoric rise

Wrong. You’ve spun the facts to meet your opinion.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Where are you from Mountaineer?
West Virginia ??

Philly born and raised.

 

[Diehardblues]

Philly born and raised.

Even worse. Poor guy.

So, we have a new fan on here from Philly who all he does is Bash Dak. Nothing fishy here. My bad. Lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Even worse. Poor guy

Hey! don't hate!

I love my Cowboys just as much as the next guy. You won't believe it by my criticism, but I have a Dak jersey I wear on game days.

I just don't like when certain guys get put on a pedestal as better then they really are. He is not BRady, Rodgers, or Mahomes.

He is not at that level YET, but maybe he could be, but until then people need to pump the breaks. Because this 2020 "projected" stuff that was never going to happen is setting the bar awfully high for Dak this season.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Manning retired in 2015, so yes, Cousins has been better the past 5 years because he has played.

Big Ben? The past 5 years? Yeah, I'm taking Cosuins. Ben only has 1 season in the past 5 years better then Cousins.

Rivers? The past 5 years? He has TWO season with at least 20 INTS in the past 5 years. I 100% take Cousins.

Brady? Brady is the GOAT. I'm not taking Cousins over him.

OMG. ok, I am starting to understand a little on how your mind works (its a chaos in there).

this isn't a question on who you take today. but over the past 5 years who is been better....

so you think Cousins is a better QB than Roth...in the past 5 years....
and better than Rivers?
and stats that you keep pointing to say Cousins has been better than Brady...

I am not saying it...Stats say it....so if Stats say it then it must be true...right? that's been your argument through out this thread...

now, lets ask 32 NFL teams what they think......

 

[DeaconMoss]

Wrong. You’ve spun the facts to meet your opinion.

All of these are 100% FACT.

Dak is coming off a bad injury. We hope it doesn't affect his play.
Lost 3 of 4 games last year.
Offense was bad in redzone.
Offense was bad in first half of games against base Defenses.
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And here is another FACT.
The Offense didn't do the struggling defense any favors. Hard to stop someone when they have the ball at the 50, bc Top5Dak went 3 and out.

There are plenty of links from credible factual sources on that one also.

 

[Diehardblues]

Hey! don't hate!

I love my Cowboys just as much as the next guy. You won't believe it by my criticism, but I have a Dak jersey I wear on game days.

I just don't like when certain guys get put on a pedestal as better then they really are. He is not BRady, Rodgers, or Mahomes.

He is not at that level YET, but maybe he could be, but until then people need to pump the breaks. Because this 2020 "projected" stuff that was never going to happen is setting the bar awfully high for Dak this season.

Bull crap!!!

And nobody on this site has said he’s Brady, Rogers or Mahomes.

I just went back several hundred post. All you’re interested in is bashing Dak. BUSTED!!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

KIRK COUSINS HAS NEVER HAD A 4,300 YARD, 30 TD, 10 INT SEASON. He has never done that. He literally has not hit them.

Like how can you even say that bolded line, and then not do the same thing for Dak when he threw for 4,900. That's just astoundingly dumb. Like that doesn't meet your barometer for "hit," but when Cousins comes up short, he does? Lmao

Are you saying that Cousins has never had those stats individually? Or had those stats all at once in a single season?

Because Cousins has 100% threw for at least 4,300 yards before. He has 100% threw for at least 30 TDs before. He had 100% threw at least 10 INTS before.

That's why you can't say Dak has thrown for 5,000 yards, because he has literally NEVER done that. He has thrown for 4,900 yards, but not 5,000.

I never claimed that cousins will give you those exact numbers every year. I said that he will give you around those numbers every year, maybe not EXACT, but that's why I used the word "around". I stand by that, because his numbers show that.

Maybe he'll give you 4,100 yards, 28 TDs, and 9 INTS. That's not 4,300 yards, 30 Tds, and 10 INTS, But it's AROUND that. That is what I mean when I say "around".

 

[Future]

Are you saying that Cousins has never had those stats individually? Or had those stats all at once in a single season?

Because Cousins has 100% threw for at least 4,300 yards before. He has 100% threw for at least 30 TDs before. He had 100% threw at least 10 INTS before.

That's why you can't say Dak has thrown for 5,000 yards, because he has literally NEVER done that. He has thrown for 4,900 yards, but not 5,000.

I never claimed that cousins will give you those exact numbers every year. I said that he will give you around those numbers every year, maybe not EXACT, but that's why I used the word "around". I stand by that, because his numbers show that.

Maybe he'll give you 4,100 yards, 28 TDs, and 9 INTS. That's not 4,300 yards, 30 Tds, and 10 INTS, But it's AROUND that. That is what I mean when I say "around".

In a single season, because that was your original point.

HOW IS 4,100 AROUND 4,300, BUT 4,900 IS NOT AROUND 5,000???????

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

OMG. ok, I am starting to understand a little on how your mind works (its a chaos in there).

this isn't a question on who you take today. but over the past 5 years who is been better....

so you think Cousins is a better QB than Roth...in the past 5 years....
and better than Rivers?
and stats that you keep pointing to say Cousins has been better than Brady...

I am not saying it...Stats say it....so if Stats say it then it must be true...right? that's been your argument through out this thread...

now, lets ask 32 NFL teams what they think......

Everything I said was based on the last 5 years. I understand it's not about who I would take today.

I gave you my reasons as to why I pick Cousins over those guys and my reasons haven't changed. You don't have to like it, but you asked me, so I answered.

 

[Diehardblues]

In a single season, because that was your original point.

HOW IS 4,100 AROUND 4,300, BUT 4,900 IS NOT AROUND 5,000???????

because he’s trolling Dak

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

QB is the most important position on offense. He doesnt do diddly for the defense or the special teams.

Doesn't the offense (if successful) take pressure off a defense, gain field position making opposing defenses have to drive further and allowing your D more chances at a stop or takeaway? Doesn't the offense have the potential to negate an opposing team's offensive game plan by scoring very well thus allowing the D to play a more one dimensional game? Doesn't the offense gain better field position allowing a chance for special teams to score with a FG or even a safety? So by your own admission that the most important offensive player is the QB and his strong play can then directly affect the defense and ST's. In all this let me be clear, I'm not overlooking the team aspect of the game but instead wanting to highlight the team is composed of individuals. And outstanding individual play lifts the whole team while advancing its cause (winning the game).

Besides, I know I saw Dak subbing at safety on passing downs and on kickoff coverage so that does amount to diddly.

I never credited Aikman or Staubach. Fans that dont understand the game credit QB's. Some certainly deserve more credit than others.

Aikman pretty much drove the bus. Couldnt even win a game without Emmitt. When Oline faded and his weapons faded, Aikman was pretty much useless. Great leader and great arm on the short to medium stuff.

I'm sorry, I just can't help myself (I'm just giddy at the chance to learn from a master) and need some clarity and teaching because I'm a fan that doesn't understand the game. He11, I'm not sure what you mean by "offense", "defense" and "special teams". What you "credit" is very important to the game's posterity. With your football genius I can begin my remedial training on the rudiments of the game. So in that vein can we begin?

You did leave out your assessment of the Staubach era while pooing on a QB picking a team up and driving them. Your teaching would be beyond valuable on him (Staubach's role on the offensive team). I'm guessing Staubach drove a station wagon (not the bus)?

I'm so excited to have a guru and deep thinker on the game to teach me! Salud!

 

[tyke1doe]

on our way to 10 pages on a Dak thread...it never fails

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[DeaconMoss]

Wrong. You’ve spun the facts to meet your opinion.

How do you spin facts? Facts don't need spinning.

All of these are 100% FACT.

Dak is coming off a bad injury. We hope it doesn't affect his play. FACT.
Lost 3 of 4 games last year. FACT.
Offense was bad in redzone. FACT.
Offense was bad in first half of games against base Defenses. FACT.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

In a single season, because that was your original point.

HOW IS 4,100 AROUND 4,300, BUT 4,900 IS NOT AROUND 5,000???????

I cannot keep explaining this. I will just let you think what you want and move on after this.

You're right in the fact that 4,900 is around 5,000. In the most basic of ways.

You still would never be able to use that as a reference point for Dak because he has never reach that number at any point.

You cannot say Dak will give you around 5,000 yards every year when he has never got it before and only been close one season. If Dak keeps getting up there then you can say it.

You can say that Cousins will give you around 4,300 a year because he has gotten either over that number or very close to that number 4 of his 6 full seasons as a starter.

That's the last time I'm going to explain it.