Mickey: Eye test about Zeke

[Typhus]

I disagree. I honestly don't see this as well. People are always infatuated with the number 2 rb. Pollard is easily the most overrated player on the team by our fanbase. Zeke needs to pick up the pace, that I will agree with, but relying on Pollard with more touches ....eh

Well you better be relying on Pollard with more touches.
This is a 2 RB roster competing in a league that 2RBs is minimal on most rosters.
Pollard better be able and ready to elevate some of Zekes burden, esp considering the extended season.
This team needs a RB3, and I like that we are looking at 4 behind Pollard, esp with the new rooks Hardy and Knox.

 

[Jarntt]

my eyes told me that Zeke wasn't all that great last year. Hopefully it will be better this year.

 

[Sarge]

Zeke may have a good season, but his burst disappeared two years ago. I’ve never seen burst come back.

Agree.

 

[Captain-Crash]

so Zeke doesn't get the "everybody was hurt excuse" or is that relegated to one guy?

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

"Jim Brown had 58 games rushing for over 100 in his 8 or so year career. And those were 12 game seasons. Teams did run more back then."

"Henry doubled his output and Henry had about the same OL."

Jim was a man amongst boys. The players were smaller, slower, lighter and weaker back then. IMO, I don't he dominates in todays game like he did back then when linemen looked like LBers in todays game and LBers looked like safeties. I like your Henry comparison better.

My question to you or anyone who think Zeke was fat and out of shape the last few years. How do we know that Garrett didn't ask him to be more like Christian Okoye, a banger, instead of a slimmer, more of a big play Zeke, like we saw his first two seasons? A few DBs have said Zeke is not fun to tackle. His weight gain could've been planned.

 

[MarcusRock]

Kamara
2017 6.1
2018 4.6
2019 4.7
2020 5.0

Okay? I would take those averages for my full-time back (which Kamara clearly isn't) all day, every day. Demarco Murray set the franchise record for yards with a 4.7 ypc.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

You mean @Mountaineerfan

Say my name three times and I appear.
Im just not sure why?

 

[Big_D]

Typical fluff from Mickey. Just what you’d expect in June! You can pretty much expect this crap year round, but his work is probably extra fluffy with the season approaching!

 

[Typhus]

so Zeke doesn't get the "everybody was hurt excuse" or is that relegated to one guy?

IDK brother, but I will tell you this, whoever isnt on board with the new roster is going to get left behind quickly.

 

[Big_D]

I can’t wait to see zekes feed me routine! Who doesn’t love that?? Opposing defenses must be quivering!

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Jim was a man amongst boys. The players were smaller, slower, lighter and weaker back then. IMO, I don't he dominates in todays game like he did back then when linemen looked like LBers in todays game and LBers looked like safeties. I like your Henry comparison better.

My question to you or anyone who think Zeke was fat and out of shape the last few years. How do we know that Garrett didn't ask him to be more like Christian Okoye, a banger, instead of a slimmer, more of a big play Zeke, like we saw his first two seasons? A few DBs have said Zeke is not fun to tackle. His weight gain could've been planned.

I would not blame it on Garrett. More likely Elliott just got lazy and big-headed and thought he could just run anyone over. Not in the NFL. Elliott needed the big hole the OL gave him early in his career to get up to speed before contact. Those big holes are gone and he can’t get up to speed before contact.

 

[aikemirv]

Well you better be relying on Pollard with more touches.
This is a 2 RB roster competing in a league that 2RBs is minimal on most rosters.
Pollard better be able and ready to elevate some of Zekes burden, esp considering the extended season.
This team needs a RB3, and I like that we are looking at 4 behind Pollard, esp with the new rooks Hardy and Knox.

Nobody is pounding the rock. Those days are gone. Zeke and Pollard can handle the load!

 

[Typhus]

I can’t wait to see zekes feed me routine! Who doesn’t love that?? Opposing defenses must be quivering!

I love that stuff when its actually in your face level and deserving.

 

[Typhus]

Nobody is pounding the rock. Those days are gone. Zeke and Pollard can handle the load!

Hope your right, but late in the season, like post season, I would like to at least have a healthy running game.
I have zero concerns with passing game depth chart, but RB depth chart I am raising an eye lid and taking a look at what goes on there specifically in camp and preseason.
RB3 is coming, Dowdle is sweating it big time.

 

[Corso]

Say my name three times and I appear.
Im just not sure why?

I don't get the @aria stuff.
You guys don't post alike at all.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

I would not blame it on Garrett. More likely Elliott just got lazy and big-headed and thought he could just run anyone over. Not in the NFL. Elliott needed the big hole the OL gave him early in his career to get up to speed before contact. Those big holes are gone and he can’t get up to speed before contact.

Come on, man. ALL his big runs was because there was a big hole??

I wasn't blaming anybody. I was thinking out loud. It probably was because he got lazy. I was just suggesting something we all could be missing. He has on his twitter "Running back for America's Team," He's proud to be a Cowboy. Jason Witten said he's the funniest guy on the team. I'm going to pull for him and give him the benefit of the doubt. I have no agenda. Some here do.

 

[Thomas82]

He was a bit overweight and out of shape in 2019, and in 2020 he had all season long hamstring and calf issues. I think he had a twisted ankle as well.

If he stays healthy I'm expecting great things from him this year.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Come on, man. ALL his big runs was because there was a big hole??

I wasn't blaming anybody. I was thinking out loud. It probably was because he got lazy. I was just suggesting something we all could be missing. He has on his twitter "Running back for America's Team," He's proud to be a Cowboy. Jason Witten said he's the funniest guy on the team. I'm going to pull for him and give him the benefit of the doubt. I have no agenda. Some here do.

Yards before contact is very important. Untouched allows a RB to get a few yards of steam which is vital for a 225 pound back. Elliott needs more time to accelerate. A heavy back can do no damage without momentum. A 225 pound back isn’t juking anyone close to the line of scrimmage in the NFL today.

Even Barkley needs the hole and a free run. He can’t break tackles.

 

[quickccc]

Bless Zeke and his 1300 + yards rushing in 2019, especially when he and an OL unit led by ex-OL coach Marc Columbo finished 5th in NFL in rushing.
But even then it still wasn’t the same Zeke, who was a breakaway threat entering the NFL, whether by run or quick screen tosses en route to TDs per Pittsburgh in ’16..and , Niners in ’17.

- And as Madden used to say on his telecasts and interviews - it’s two things that NFL Defenses really fear: Speed and a running QB

Mickey can give the Covid 19 excuse, but Zeke had lost that explosiveness way before that illness had even happened.
And Spags can throw the numbers around, but I noticed he won’t touch the lack of big splash plays that seems to have forsaken Zeke since 2018, when he
last had his 40+ splash run vs Seattle (and still fumbled on same play)

From everything we’re hearing among the reported raves and yayes what’s the main description that keeps springing out about Zeke’s offseason ?

- SPEED !!.. “ seems more quicker,.. more faster, ..more crisper,.. more elusive,.. more in-out cuts … more slimmed down,.. he’s making people miss again . “

 

[mmohican29]

not saying you are wrong, but it is a bit of a difficult point to make and substantiate isn't it? Given when Pollard comes into the game and the situations that hes used in, his individual performance is a bit boosted but the circumstances. If you start having Pollard cut into Zeke's touches, then you start to erode some of the additional benefit Pollard gets from being fresh and a true change of pace that the defense isn't expecting.

Again, please don't take this as me calling your opinion incorrect, I just think we need to consider why Pollard has had limited success situationally and if it would be diminished if his use changes

Q: Did you watch it the SF game?