PFN Insider Discusses McCarthy

[Hawkeye19]

that is the only bad thing if MM gets fired lol.
However if Kellen was HC, and he hired a new OC, that might be ok, but I figure he would be HC / OC.

People say MM gets a break for 2020, but no one expected a 12-4 season after dak went down, but 9-7 was doable.
Also with dak he was 1-3 and the one win had nothing to do with MM, just a lucky ST play.

I mainly judged him on his in game decisions, which were off the chart bad and crazy at times.

Still he is getting this season, so he gets another chance.
I just agree with broadus that he doesnt bring much to the table.

100%

 

[CATCH17]

that is the only bad thing if MM gets fired lol.
However if Kellen was HC, and he hired a new OC, that might be ok, but I figure he would be HC / OC.

People say MM gets a break for 2020, but no one expected a 12-4 season after dak went down, but 9-7 was doable.
Also with dak he was 1-3 and the one win had nothing to do with MM, just a lucky ST play.

I mainly judged him on his in game decisions, which were off the chart bad and crazy at times.

Still he is getting this season, so he gets another chance.
I just agree with broadus that he doesnt bring much to the table.

We were beyond awful even with Dak.

 

[Reality]

Rivera and Judge had the same raw deal.

Early on last season, the Giants lost Barkley, the WFT was stuck with Haskins and the Cowboys lost Prescott, so it is hard for any of those teams to judge their first year head coaches especially with no off-season last year.

I think after this year, all three teams and their fans will have a much better idea where they stand with their coaching staffs.

 

[Stash]

Of course not. He stuck with Garrett for a decade.

And even allowed that clown’s contract to ‘expire’ rather than firing him

 

[Reality]

that is the only bad thing if MM gets fired lol.
However if Kellen was HC, and he hired a new OC, that might be ok, but I figure he would be HC / OC.

People say MM gets a break for 2020, but no one expected a 12-4 season after dak went down, but 9-7 was doable.
Also with dak he was 1-3 and the one win had nothing to do with MM, just a lucky ST play.

I mainly judged him on his in game decisions, which were off the chart bad and crazy at times.

Still he is getting this season, so he gets another chance.
I just agree with broadus that he doesnt bring much to the table.

I like Moore and he has proven he has a good offensive mind, but he suffers from the same limitations that Garrett had in that his coaching has been heavily influenced by one NFL coaching system and mindset.

While Garrett was a QB coach for one year with the Dolphins, most of his career and coaching experience was based on the 1990's Cowboys concepts, which by itself is not bad by any means, but he could have used a few years in other coaching systems to better refine his coaching schemes and experience.

I was not sold on the McCarthy hire, but it really is hard to judge him after everything that happened last year with no offseason, no preseason, losing Prescott, etc. combined with the historically bad Cowboys defense.

 

[CATCH17]

I like Moore and he has proven he has a good offensive mind, but he suffers from the same limitations that Garrett had in that his coaching has been heavily influenced by one NFL coaching system and mindset.

While Garrett was a QB coach for one year with the Dolphins, most of his career and coaching experience was based on the 1990's Cowboys concepts, which by itself is not bad by any means, but he could have used a few years in other coaching systems to better refine his coaching schemes and experience.

I was not sold on the McCarthy hire, but it really is hard to judge him after everything that happened last year with no offseason, no preseason, losing Prescott, etc. combined with the historically bad Cowboys defense.

When they fire McCarthy I fully expect them to trot out Kellen Moore as the next coach. I can see it coming from a mile out.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

first off who the flip is PFN?

exactly any fan or media type trying to judge MM over 2020 is definitely in need of reality check. He had zero chance of success with a myriad of issues with major injury losses, no offseason, covid hitting few players , and players who didnt work out in FA...

he lost the division by one game and BB over in NE with less issue IMO went 7-9 i mean i know he gets decade of passes for his tenure but it shows how tough it is to lose a QB and many starters and not have true offseason of evaluation and he didn't have new staff or new schemes to deal with.

these writer just like jumping on the bandwagon of story's that in this dead zone of the offseason need something to write about..

2020 was mulligan for players and coaches and while MM needs to show up big time and possible his seat is warm i firmly believe from day 1 he would get 3 years of his deal to make the NFCCG at minimum and run around team needing full purge especially on defense..

he wont be fired this season unless its him having a losing record with relatively helathy roster.. maybe, but really my gut says Jones will give him 3 seasons. and that actually the right thing to do..you cant just make wholesale changes and give up every other year..

the Cardinals did this knee jerk stuff i mean i dont follow them why did they change from Arians again? vet coach who was winning a lot more then these last two moves which included changes coaches and 1st round qbs b2b years

so after all this 4 years many big changes , they got back to 8-8 which was arians last season in 2017 lmao great moves to be back where you started.. point is you do need to give coaches some time to get schemes in lace and players to run them 3-4 years should be minimum and only if horrible and in need of change, give it time!

2020 8-8
2019 5-10-1 4th -- NFC West -- Kliff Kingsbury Roster / Stats
2018 3-13-0 4th -- NFC West -- Steve Wilks Roster / Stats
2017 8-8-0 3rd -- NFC West -- Bruce Arians Roster / Stats
2016 7-8-1 2nd -- NFC West -- Bruce Arians Roster / Stats
2015 13-3-0 1st -- NFC West 1-1 - Lost Conference Championship Bruce Arians Roster / Stats
2014 11-5-0 2nd -- NFC West 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs Bruce Arians Roster / Stats
2013 10-6-0 Arians

Arians “retired”. Even when he announced he was coming back in 2019 the Cardinals wanted him back. I agree their recent coaching history looks bad when laid out, but I think Wills was recognized as a mistake hire after Bruce’s abrupt departure. Team took a huge step back. So they rectified that.

 

[bayeslife]

McCarthy is the first real football coach we’ve had since Parcells. If he’s no longer with us it’s because he’s tired of the circus of this franchise.

 

[jterrell]

Let's see, lose your QB week 5 and have 3rd most missed starts due to injury and folks are mad at the Coach.
Like clockwork.

 

[Kwyn]

I was hopeful he changed from what they said ended his GB tenure. Nothing last year made me feel positively about him and I’m coming to the feeling that he really doesn’t bring anything special to the table. If you took McCarthy out and had Moore run the Offense and Quinn run the Defense you wouldn’t miss a thing. Even with that being said I am willing to give him this year before I make a conclusion.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfc-notes-mike-mccarthy-cowboys-giants-washington/

• A “plugged-in” source tells Adam Beasley of PFN that it could be “NFC Championship Game or bust” for Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy in year two.
• According to Beasley, there’s a sense around the NFL that McCarthy didn’t “wear particularly well in his first year with the Cowboys” and his job could be in jeopardy, barring a deep playoff run.
• One other concern is that Beasley says there are some around the Cowboys who are a “bit dubious” about McCarthy’s coaching staff decisions. Beasley explains that McCarthy is a delegator and clearly wanted people around him he could trust to handle a larger workload.

So, a bitter, nutball former player with an axe to grind talks smack about the Cowboys. No surprise.

I’m not a big McCarthy fan, and he wasn’t my first choice, but we could have done worse.

 

[garyo1954]

We were beyond awful even with Dak.

We were only 3 or 4 plays from being 7-9.

 

[Redball Express]

I was hopeful he changed from what they said ended his GB tenure. Nothing last year made me feel positively about him and I’m coming to the feeling that he really doesn’t bring anything special to the table. If you took McCarthy out and had Moore run the Offense and Quinn run the Defense you wouldn’t miss a thing. Even with that being said I am willing to give him this year before I make a conclusion.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfc-notes-mike-mccarthy-cowboys-giants-washington/

• A “plugged-in” source tells Adam Beasley of PFN that it could be “NFC Championship Game or bust” for Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy in year two.
• According to Beasley, there’s a sense around the NFL that McCarthy didn’t “wear particularly well in his first year with the Cowboys” and his job could be in jeopardy, barring a deep playoff run.
• One other concern is that Beasley says there are some around the Cowboys who are a “bit dubious” about McCarthy’s coaching staff decisions. Beasley explains that McCarthy is a delegator and clearly wanted people around him he could trust to handle a larger workload.

This is why he got the job. He has blended right in with the Jonees way of running a team.Delegation reigns. Lines are clearly defined with the Jones as the arbitrators. No team runs like this in the NFL. And we have proven year after year it does not work but nothing changes.

 

[ondaedg]

One thing is certain - if Dak has the worst season of his short career MM and the defense will get the blame.

Dak obsession can lead to blindness.

 

[johneric8]

Oh my lord some of you guys are way too gullible... So the insider or whatever the publications is, goes on record saying that they Cowboys organization is dubious of some of Big Mike's hiring decisions and he's on a short leash, etc......, and you're eating it up with a spoon? So after a ridiculously difficult 2020 with no pre season games or training camp some of you believe it's NFC championship or bust because rumor has it? Cray Cray I say.. Big Mike is a Super Bowl winning coach whom even with his blunders was obviously a better coach last year than Garrett ever was, and I know that it isn't saying much but it's true.

The fact that Big Mike and company won as many games as they did with all of their studs going down was a pretty good feat. I will circle back to this post and or thread in a few years, but Big Mike has at least 2 more years to show what he can do and most likely 4 more. Use some logic please for crying out loud, and if your source is the senile Mike Fisher looking for subs on his youtube channel to help finance his man boob reduction surgery you're crazier than you look.

 

[DoctorChicken]

After the pandemic and losing his starting QB and entire OL, he’d get fired after his second season? Doubtful, unless the team is worse. There are very few coaches in the league that would have done any better in Mike’s situation.

 

[CATCH17]

After the pandemic and losing his starting QB and entire OL, he’d get fired after his second season? Doubtful, unless the team is worse. There are very few coaches in the league that would have done any better in Mike’s situation.

He should be on the hot seat.

There is literally nothing you can point to with him as a coach that’s a positive.

Coaches needing 3 and 4 years is a thing of the past. You win now or you go.

Its year 2.. He’s had a full offseason. Our division is trash. There is 0 excuses to not have a successful year.

They will be lazy and just hire Kellen Moore anyways so might as well make the transition sooner than later.

 

[jazzcat22]

Like most everything else, I will let the season play out to decide a direction on my thoughts about coaching and players.
I am sure though, some opinion will form during the season. But that is natural for all of us. It is why we are here.

Not going to get hyped up or down over some mediot article or tweet or statement or what ever at this point.

 

[Trajan]

Look, if McCarthy isn’t a good enough coach to win a super bowl even while Jerruh undercuts him at every opportunity then Mike just isn’t a good coach.

 

[plasticman]

I had the same feeling last year that I did in the early 2010 season.

In the very first drive of the first game in 2010, the Cowboys rolled all the way to the Washington 37 yard line. Things were looking good despite some injury issues on the offensive line that forced the Cowboys to use last minute signees. Then, in comes rookie receiver Dez Bryant.

Bryant had been injured all through training camp, didn't play a single preseason down. Again, first drive, first game. He was covered by a Pro Bowl CB. Romo throws a sideline pass and Dez is tackled for a two yard gain. Then Romo repeats the same play to Dez for a 1 yard loss. On 3rd and 9 it's an incomplete pass to Roy Williams and they decide to punt from the 36.

Just before halftime in this game, 27 seconds left, the Cowboys are at their own 30 yard line. They are winning 10-0. In comes Dez Bryant, the rookie. Romo throws to him three consecutive times. With 4 seconds left before halftime, 1st and 20 after a penalty, Romo is looking for Dez, instead tosses the ball to Choice who fumbles and Washington's Deangelo Hall picks it up and runs in for the TD.

Why was a rookie WR, one with no experience even in preseason games, thrown in at the most pressure points of the first half? No sane OC would do that. Why would a HC allow it?

Well, those of us watching at the time might remember that the HC, Wade Phillips was also given the job of DC and the OC, Jason Garrett answered directly to Jerry Jones. If the OC and the DC report to the same individual, what title do you give that person?

Jerry Jones was the acting HC of the Dallas Cowboys in the first half of 2010. He wanted to show off his exciting acquisition, WR Dez Bryant, and it backfired. The Cowboys lost in the final minute of the game and it set the tone for the entire, dismal, season.

Now recall the Atlanta Falcon game last season. In the excitement of pulling out the 1 point victory after being down by 19 points, does anybody remember the two fake punts by the Cowboys in that game? Two fake punts, both failures. What NFL coach calls for two fake punts in the same game?

I might be wrong , but that situation reeked of Jerry Jones. I think he was back, sticking his nose in the game plan and part of the unique challenge of being a Cowboy HC is having to put up with it. I think that is part of the answer for the questionable play calling last season. As I've discussed, it wouldn't be the first time.

 

[lonestar2288]

The "selling" point of McCarthy over options like Meyer, Rhule and Riley was legit skins on the wall. The SB win made him a "better" option then guys like Bieniemy or Martindale. At some point he has to be held to that "higher standard". That being said, I don't expect it to be this yr. Personally I wasn't a fan of McCarthy being signed, but I'll see what he does with a legit season to change that impression