Richard Sherman arrested, denied bail

[jrumann59]

2 crimes that will get you thrown into the clink by word alone, child sexual assault, DV

 

[Rockport]

I think you are trying to make a point. You should re-read what you sent me. Bottom line is none of us here has any context or information about the arrest. My point was, and you should read my posts, regardless of the circumstances Sherman should probably exercised greater personal care to avoid a situation that would warrant an arrest.

You keep waving the Pom Poms though.

Just replying to your post.

I agree but the guy is being held without bail. That is not a good thing.

So you made a judgement there jumping to conclusions.

 

[MarcusRock]

real reporters are now we the fans. Most "reporters" have gone by the waste side.

All I know is, if you're a reporter, please, please have an editor on standby. Lol.

 

[BourbonBalz]

No one should get anything until its adjudicated. If he is found guilty by preponderance of the evidence so be it if he is found innocent so be it. But the court of public opinion only cares if the ruling does not confirm their bias.

Preponderance of the evidence is for civil actions. It simply means more likely than not likely (51% or higher). For ANY criminal charge a person has to be found guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Huge difference.

 

[jrumann59]

But circumstances do matter. If she called the police and they showed up and she had bruises all over her then I would take the sum biscuit in.

In todays society if she had a hang nail and said he caused it he goes in. Cops now are expected to take the most conservative approach in DV. The "victim" gets the benefit of the doubt, cops answering DV do not do a thorough investigation at the door. They make a judgement call based on teh info they have and by reading the situation in most cases they will ring the violator up "to be safe". The real investigation does not take place until the guy is carted off and sent in front of a magistrate or judge and gets his trial date.

 

[Hagman]

Have people noticed the parts about fighting cops and crashing into a light pole?

 

[jrumann59]

Preponderance of the evidence is for civil actions. It simply means more likely than not likely (51% or higher). For ANY criminal charge a person has to be found guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Huge difference.

For DV reasonable doubt means nothing to get locked up for the night. Many DVs fall a part once they get weighed against reasonable doubt, but the stigma that Bob got spend the night in Jail lasts forever.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I heard on the radio that the burglary charge does not mean he actually attempted to steal anything. In that jurisdiction, attempting to enter someone’s home without consent is considered burglary. They also said he could not be released from jail until he goes before a judge.

 

[Whyjerry]

Just replying to your post.


So you made a judgement there jumping to conclusions.

For the love of God the bail could be withheld because of the fear of some violent altercation after the fact. No one knows for sure. My point stands, that it is held, for now, is not good. Let’s just wait for the facts. You should curb your googling too.

 

[BourbonBalz]

For DV reasonable doubt means nothing to get locked up for the night. Many DVs fall a part once they get weighed against reasonable doubt, but the stigma that Bob got spend the night in Jail lasts forever.

That’s not what I was saying. I’m saying to be “convicted” for any criminal violation requires finding a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and NOT a preponderance of the evidence.

 

[Rockport]

In todays society if she had a hang nail and said he caused it he goes in. Cops now are expected to take the most conservative approach in DV. The "victim" gets the benefit of the doubt, cops answering DV do not do a thorough investigation at the door. They make a judgement call based on teh info they have and by reading the situation in most cases they will ring the violator up "to be safe". The real investigation does not take place until the guy is carted off and sent in front of a magistrate or judge and gets his trial date.

It is getting out of hand.

 

[jrumann59]

Have people noticed the parts about fighting cops and crashing into a light pole?

Its not looking good for him. I mean I don't know how you could a call it a hit and run though. He hit a jersey wall pulled and walked/ubered to where he was arrested because his car was messed up. I hit a deer a mile from home one night, I got out and walked home and called the claim in the next morning. But yes him being drunk and belligerent is not a good look.

 

[jrumann59]

That’s not what I was saying. I’m saying to be “convicted” for any criminal violation requires finding a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and NOT a preponderance of the evidence.

I understand that but in criminal court. But in the court of public opinion that is not the case. Ultimately more people are hurt by the court of public opinion/rumor mill than the actual court system.

 

[Cowpolk]

This thread would look pirdy cool locked

 

[Rockport]

For the love of God the bail could be withheld because of the fear of some violent altercation after the fact. No one knows for sure. My point stands, that it is held, for now, is not good. Let’s just wait for the facts. You should curb your googling too.

No, I like Google. You'd be surprised how much it helps in my job. Lots of technical documentation you can easily search for most anything you'd need to know. Years back I worked at USAA and the founder of Google came in to give us a seminar. This was before it was known and long before it became public. He urged us all to by his OTC stock. Not sure how many in that room did but I didn't.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Actually it is normal in domestic violence arrests. He will probably get bail after they get in front of a judge or with his lawyer in court

Yes I now see that is a Washington state legal procedure.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

I just spat my coffee

 

[blueblood70]

non Cowboy story move to nfl news oh wait he unemployed

off topic please

 

[DeaconBlues]

In todays society if she had a hang nail and said he caused it he goes in. Cops now are expected to take the most conservative approach in DV. The "victim" gets the benefit of the doubt, cops answering DV do not do a thorough investigation at the door. They make a judgement call based on teh info they have and by reading the situation in most cases they will ring the violator up "to be safe". The real investigation does not take place until the guy is carted off and sent in front of a magistrate or judge and gets his trial date.

Except, when confronted, RS fought the police to the extent that a canine unit was called in. This isn't a run of the mill DV.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Ok someone was drinking.