Could or Are We Witnessing A Change In NFL Players Mentality?

[Jinxx13x]

The Bucs really did something remarkable this offseason by getting nearly everyone of their players and coaches to run it back, i think they lost only one player although i could be wrong though ! I am sure some players could have gotten far more money somewhere else lavonte David and Barret and Godwin ( franchise tagged ) come to mind .I am sure on some level Tom Brady had a little to do with it. Maybe some players had made their money already and are looking for rings now like Suh, Gronk and Brown !

Are we witnessing a change in the way players look at free agency and the whole money vs situation & championship thing ? or Is this an anomaly because of Tom Brady ?

I ask that to ask this

What are the chances this becomes a change in the way players look at their situation and championship chances if the Bucs were to go back to back ? I would love to see Gallop stay in all honesty and keep this offense together while continuing to build the D through the draft !

For the record - I am of the mind set players should get theirs when it comes to money since careers are so short But it would be a nice change to see more athletes do this ! Thoughts ?

 

[Reality]

Coming off a Super Bowl and Tom Brady returning, I think it's a highly unique position that most players would want to be a part of if given the chance.

The Chiefs are about the only team that comes close in comparison right now in that respect.

You cannot apply that mindset to other teams, especially those who rarely get anywhere near a Super Bowl or that have unproven quarterbacks.

 

[Jinxx13x]

Coming off a Super Bowl and Tom Brady returning, I think it's a highly unique position that most players would want to be a part of if given the chance.

The Chiefs are about the only team that comes close in comparison right now in that respect.

You cannot apply that mindset to other teams, especially those who rarely get anywhere near a Super Bowl or that have unproven quarterbacks.

Yes but as you pointed out their are now 2 teams before i would argue it was just the chiefs. Are teams starting to take a for lack of a better comparison a lesson from basketball ! Yes it is rare at the moment but could this change be creeping in slowly if teams see the success of both the above mentioned.

Teams that are headed towards a championship may just be motivated to possibly stay together !

It is a different outlook for sure , worth a discussion at least i think so

 

[The Natural]

No.

 

[CouchCoach]

It is more a factor of not having that many starters up. That's usually the problem with championship teams and FA players off championship teams get more money.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Was there much action in FA this year? Teams were stuck with a $182M cap this year and some uncertainty. That may have limited some folks. Not sure there was a big market for TB players this year.

Maybe Brady can make some players look better than they really are? Who knows?

 

[fivetwos]

The numbers are so staggering now that I can't even blame players for being more worried about getting paid than winning....

It takes the right leadership in a head coach and at least one or two on the field players to steer the whole ship in the right direction.

 

[Reality]

Teams that are headed towards a championship may just be motivated to possibly stay together !

The problem is several teams think they are headed toward a Championship every season only to fail and, in some cases, fail miserably.

Players want one of two things or both if they can get it. They want money (who wouldn't) and they want to win a Super Bowl.

Young players want money because you never know when your NFL career will end and it is better to get as much money as you can early on.

Veteran players want money and Super Bowls, but will sometimes take less if they have been in the league long enough to make a lot of money or they know that spending another year or two with a proven Super Bowl capable team, quarterback and coach will get them more championships and set them up for even more money after its over.

This year the new projected teams headed to the Super Bowl are the Rams and Bills. Last year it was the 49ers, Saints and Ravens.

The only two teams worth the risk of taking less money by veteran players are Tampa Bay and the Chiefs, because they have recent Super Bowl wins and they have two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

The moment Brady leaves or retires from Tampa Bay, veteran players will bolt the first chance they get.

 

[ClappingCarrot]

Your team leadership should set the tone that winning is everything.

In Dallas I feel like, once you've secured the bag and you get paid, then you've accomplished what you've set out to accomplish.

 

[cowboys1981]

I wish these teams could just stick together and the league add a stipulation to allow players drafted by their parent team to have a portion of their salary not counted against the cap. This would give parent teams an advantage over the market. Teams should be rewarded for drafting good.

Aside from that I don't think anything has changed. TB is just in a unique situation where their QB is already wealthy and successful, which puts him in a position to be financially selfless when it comes to his NFL salary.

 

[John813]

Shaq Barrett contract is loaded starting in 2022.
It was less about taking less and instead the GM getting creative to try focus on a 2021 SB push.

Barrett "gets" only 5mil this year cap hit wise. Then it shoots up to 18-21mil the next 3 years then a void year.

LaVonte David is the same as above, but 3 void years to spread out the cap hits.

Tom Brady's deal also uses void years. He took home 20mil SB this year redoing his deal and adding 3 void years to artificially drop the cap hits

Most teams are using void years and worrying about the dead cap 2-3 years down the road.

Dak's deal and Tyron's restructure use void years off the top of my head

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

The Bucs really did something remarkable this offseason by getting nearly everyone of their players and coaches to run it back, i think they lost only one player although i could be wrong though ! I am sure some players could have gotten far more money somewhere else lavonte David and Barret and Godwin ( franchise tagged ) come to mind .I am sure on some level Tom Brady had a little to do with it. Maybe some players had made their money already and are looking for rings now like Suh, Gronk and Brown !

Are we witnessing a change in the way players look at free agency and the whole money vs situation & championship thing ? or Is this an anomaly because of Tom Brady ?

I ask that to ask this

What are the chances this becomes a change in the way players look at their situation and championship chances if the Bucs were to go back to back ? I would love to see Gallop stay in all honesty and keep this offense together while continuing to build the D through the draft !

For the record - I am of the mind set players should get theirs when it comes to money since careers are so short But it would be a nice change to see more athletes do this ! Thoughts ?

It's the Tom Brady effect.

I believe 99% of the time players will chase the money, but that other 1% is going to take less to play and win with Brady. Sometimes that 1% has more talent and drive than that 99% does.

It also helps tremendously that Tom Brady is the most underpaid NFL player of all time given his accomplishments.

 

[blueblood70]

The Bucs really did something remarkable this offseason by getting nearly everyone of their players and coaches to run it back, i think they lost only one player although i could be wrong though ! I am sure some players could have gotten far more money somewhere else lavonte David and Barret and Godwin ( franchise tagged ) come to mind .I am sure on some level Tom Brady had a little to do with it. Maybe some players had made their money already and are looking for rings now like Suh, Gronk and Brown !

Are we witnessing a change in the way players look at free agency and the whole money vs situation & championship thing ? or Is this an anomaly because of Tom Brady ?

I ask that to ask this

What are the chances this becomes a change in the way players look at their situation and championship chances if the Bucs were to go back to back ? I would love to see Gallop stay in all honesty and keep this offense together while continuing to build the D through the draft !

For the record - I am of the mind set players should get theirs when it comes to money since careers are so short But it would be a nice change to see more athletes do this ! Thoughts ?

cooper allegedly took 20 here when offered 22 mil in WFT..its rarity for sure i mean zeke and dak fleeced jerry for al he could give so who knows .i know our lineman have taken less.i think it simply differs from player to player and their personalities..

 

[Silver N Blue]

The chance to play with the GOAT is all some players need. They already get to tell a story of not only playing with Brady but winning a SB with him as well. Now they are motivated to add to an already awesome story.

 

[acr731]

The game is different now than it was back in the 1960's and 1970's. Back then the players worked regular jobs in the off season. They had to do that to get by. When it came time to play, winning was first and foremost. You don't see that level of passion and devotion any longer. Making the most money you can has become the focus.

If you could inject every current NFL player with a truth serum and ask them what means more, money or championships, my guess would be more than 90% are only in it for the money.

The NCAA should have stuck to their guns in the compensation for athletes debate. I have a feeling it could end up having a negative effect on the quality of talent going into the NFL. The Ohio kid the news is talking about is already being paid millions and he hasn't even played a down in college yet. If he's already making that kind of cash as a college freshman, will there be enough incentive to excel and go for the next level?

 

[conner01]

Was there much action in FA this year? Teams were stuck with a $182M cap this year and some uncertainty. That may have limited some folks. Not sure there was a big market for TB players this year.

Maybe Brady can make some players look better than they really are? Who knows?

That was surely a factor

 

[cowboyblue22]

when the new tv money hits it will be every man for himself then

 

[blueblood70]

The game is different now than it was back in the 1960's and 1970's. Back then the players worked regular jobs in the off season. They had to do that to get by. When it came time to play, winning was first and foremost. You don't see that level of passion and devotion any longer. Making the most money you can has become the focus.

If you could inject every current NFL player with a truth serum and ask them what means more, money or championships, my guess would be more than 90% are only in it for the money.

The NCAA should have stuck to their guns in the compensation for athletes debate. I have a feeling it could end up having a negative effect on the quality of talent going into the NFL. The Ohio kid the news is talking about is already being paid millions and he hasn't even played a down in college yet. If he's already making that kind of cash as a college freshman, will there be enough incentive to excel and go for the next level?

i blame the other pro sports leagues with non hard caps,

the NFL players saw the ridiculous deals MLB and NBA players were getting and dont think they didn't sit back and say hey where's mine and egos come into play..

 

[NotForLong]

It's the Tom Brady effect.

I believe 99% of the time players will chase the money, but that other 1% is going to take less to play and win with Brady. Sometimes that 1% has more talent and drive than that 99% does.

It also helps tremendously that Tom Brady is the most underpaid NFL player of all time given his accomplishments.

Also Brady works on the cheap which allows more leeway for the Management

 

[NotForLong]

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