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[khiladi]

Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

No, it was a horrible, stare-down throw that only rarely works, and that is when everything is going right. Dak threw that into triple coverage, which was horrible choice.

It’s the same exact type of throw that he almost got picked off for after Dallas got the TO. But their LB dropped it, just like CeeDee, bailing our team out allowing us to at least salvage the field goal.

Cooper is elite period. I haven’t seen a more crisp route runner with top flight speed as him. CeeDee blew our play off chance last year in the final game on a drop when Dalton hit him right in the hands on what should have been the game-winning playoff clinching drive.

 

[khiladi]

Lamb is the most overrated of the top 3, at least he's already better than Dez Bryant.

It’s pretty obvious by now Dez was over-rated, especially for his mouth. I can’t stand him now after the stuff he posted on Twitter. At least TO, with his big mouth, was an all-time great to accompany it. Dez had no top flight speed to beat any DB and Romo was basically the only QB that knew how to get him the ball consistently. That type of WR that can go up and make grabs is not one you want to constantly hang your hat on as the number 1 WR.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

It him him square in both hands..

 

[MaineBoy]

There were enough mistakes in all 3 phases to lose this one.

offense did not finish drives. I think they were 1-4 in the red zone.

Defense, as expected, remains a work in progress. Did force TO, also did give up big plays. No pressure, the interior D-line stinks, I’m hopeful Osa catches on quick and Gaillimore return helps. Safety is still garbage that they simply ignore it. Corners outside of Diggs, aren’t very good.

ST stunk out loud. Everyone is going to bash Zuerlein, but the fact this FO and coaching staff thought he was ready to kick off back surgery and essentially no work in camp/preseason, is incomprehensible.

hey, at least the Jones family was able to celebrate the grand opening of the Miller Lite House this week! These dopes should have been trying out temporary kickers.

I don’t think our ST coach is very good.

 

[CouchCoach]

I find it interesting that Cooper makes his statement that he thinks he is the best WR in the league but hasn't proven it yet while many fans are already passing the mantle to Lamb as the WR1 and then puts an ! on that with 13 for a 10 ypc average and 2 TD's. He has started this season with a "did you forget about me" statement game and I hope he keeps that up because any WR that can quietly go about his business as he did last night is my kind of WR.

Prescott needs to school Lamb just like the elite QB's do it. Drop my ball, you might not see another tonight. Mr. Lamb, you had one job to do and you halfway did it.

I would also suggest Prescott work on the look the other QB's have and not be such a nice guy. He needs "the glare". Marino was known to send a receiver out to the sideline if he dropped one of his passes and the coaches had to be ready to send another in. Might have been for just one play but the message was delivered and we weren't privy to what might have taken place in practice that week. QB's hate drops, practice or games, doesn't matter.

It is all about the hands to me. To hell with 40's, vertical, cone drills, Steve Largent wasn't great at that but he had the hands.

 

[OldJarhead]

TBH, if he got two mits on it, he hit him in the hands. Fans are the only ones who say a pass has to be in stride and hit between the numbers to be accurate... if a pass is put in a place for the WR to get two full hands on it regardless if they have to sky for it, dive for it, turn back for it, change pace for it, etc., it is an accurate pass..because the QB (whoever the QB is not just Dak) put the ball in a place for the WR to do their job. _

I don't disagree with that. He was calling it a "dime". Big diff between accurate and "dime". I was questioning the pass. I said three defenders, now that I have looked at the replay, I think there were five because Cooper was in the area also, so who was open elsewhere? Either way, I have never been impressed with Daks accuracy and I'm still not. He made some good passes last night, but I think down the road, his lack of accuracy downfield is going to hurt this team. Add to that the lack of a commitment to run the ball, but that's not Dak, that is on the coaching staff.

 

[Cincycowboy]

That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

Alligator armed it. He saw the safety and short armed it. Can’t do that if you are going over the middle. Regardless , he wasn’t the issue last night.

 

[lostar2009]

If Cooper plays like he did tonight there is no chance he goes anywhere

Coop was activated last night. I recall talking my dad and I said watch Coop going to get some balls in the second half.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Probably one of those talking heads on the TV that are in love with #4. I understand. Dropped passes are like errors in Baseball at the discretion of the scorer. I am not sure who gets to decide what is a drop and what is a bad pass for real. I mean, I know we as fans all bicker back and forth and all that matters not a bit in the end. All that matter is what JJ and Mike and the kid (the OC) think.

You started your response with a strawman position. Then spent the rest of the time supposing to make your position appear stronger.

Jump or not, the ball hit his hands and he juggled it.

As far as Collinsworth's love for Dak, did you watch with the sound off? The beginning he was questioning Dak. At the end he was praising him. And if you watched the offensive pass interference play at the end, Collinsworth (former WR for Cincinnati) was making excuses for the WR, when it was a clear cut push to get separation.

QB's make their money threading passes into tight windows. That pass was right where it should have been. I am a huge Cee Dee fan, but he turned the ball over. Not Dak.

He makes that catch and that would be the focal highlight of the game on every sports station. As it is, it still is, but not because of the QB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

Let’s hope he hurts us every game with 100 and a TD.

 

[Clove]

Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

Amari is our dream come true receiver. He's talented, can run crisp routes, never complains, a team guy, explosive, and have I mentioned he never complains? This is the guys we've been talking about for years since we hated loud mouth receivers, and now we want to get rid of him? Keep some players no matter the cost, he and Dak obviously has chemistry.

 

[conner01]

That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

It hit him right in the hands
He had two drops last night
The shorted pass was on Dak
But his drops were no more important than taking a sack that took you out of FG range when you were out of the pocket
Or penalty in the red zone
Of missing a short FG and extra point
Or a obvious push off not called
The good news is these are not talent problems
These are using your head problems and those can be fixed
Talent problems like the Dline are just something you have to live with at this point
And even with 4-5 plays that could have won the game, we played the SB champs to the end and that should give confidence that this team can win a lot of games

 

[Clove]

Uh, that's his job, that's what he is supposed to do. The QB's job is to put the ball where the receiver can get it.. the WR's job is to get the ball.

The expectations of some in this fan base is ridiculous..no QB places perfectly thrown balls all of the time... heck Brady had quite a few misplaced passes and he is the GOAT...if the best QB in the NFL can throw passes not perfectly placed then why would you expect a QB you call middle of the pack to second tier QB to be perfect every pass. The expectations are unrealistic.

I remember being a pretty good receiver, but when I went to play for a semi pro team one year, I remember a route that took me square across the back middle of the field and the ball was coming in "Hot" or fast and high, and it would've been an easy jump catch for me, but I thought about (I wasn't getting paid, I didn't have insurance, I had kids etc) and so I alligator armed it and didn't even really put much effort in trying to catch it. I could hear the safety behind me saying, "you're lucky you didn't go up for that". I don't know if that was true or not, but if those factors didn't come into play, I would've made a fantastic catch. My point is, it takes balls to play receiver and if you don't possess them, then do something else.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No, it was a horrible, stare-down throw that only rarely works, and that is when everything is going right. Dak threw that into triple coverage, which was horrible choice.

It’s the same exact type of throw that he almost got picked off for after Dallas got the TO. But their LB dropped it, just like CeeDee, bailing our team out allowing us to at least salvage the field goal.

Cooper is elite period. I haven’t seen a more crisp route runner with top flight speed as him. CeeDee blew our play off chance last year in the final game on a drop when Dalton hit him right in the hands on what should have been the game-winning playoff clinching drive.

that actually was a good throw but a bad route combination call by Moore.........Moore called two routes from the same side with recievers ending up in the same close area, which brought 4 defenders into play....he also left that as the only options for the pass play, with both recievers in the same area....there were no other options....even if CD made the catch, which if he is elite he should have, it was still a very very bad play call.

Carlton Davis near Pick 6 after Dak Prescott interception! - YouTube


learn to understand the game kid.....instead of just staring at TV screen and looking for something to complain about Dak.....

 

[Tabascocat]

CeeDee will be fine, just needs to limit the drops. I think it is more mental and needs to work on fundamentals….like not fair-catching a punt at the five. He hurt the team last night but also made some great plays.

 

[DallasInDC]

I remember being a pretty good receiver, but when I went to play for a semi pro team one year, I remember a route that took me square across the back middle of the field and the ball was coming in "Hot" or fast and high, and it would've been an easy jump catch for me, but I thought about (I wasn't getting paid, I didn't have insurance, I had kids etc) and so I alligator armed it and didn't even really put much effort in trying to catch it. I could hear the safety behind me saying, "you're lucky you didn't go up for that". I don't know if that was true or not, but if those factors didn't come into play, I would've made a fantastic catch. My point is, it takes balls to play receiver and if you don't possess them, then do something else.

No doubt, you are putting your physical health on the line playing WR...and just like QB I don't expect them to be perfect. There will be drops and alligator arms every now and then. I believe players understand that. It just can't be a habit.

 

[Clove]

No doubt, you our putting your physical health on the line playing WR...and just like QB I don't expect them to be perfect. There will be drops and alligator arms every now and then. I believe players understand that. It just can't be a habit.

He HAS to catch those balls. That's the difference between great and good.

 

[DallasInDC]

He HAS to catch those balls. That's the difference between great and good.

On its own I wouldn't hold that one drop against CeeDee...but when you add up the number of drops (in one game or across the season) that's where the expectations are you have to make those catches 90% - 95% of the time. Right now he is coming up short.

 

[gimmesix]

Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

I don't see any way the one that hit the field in front of him can be called a drop. The other two definitely were.

 

[gimmesix]

Um, really? I think he had to like, um ah... leap, a little, um, ah into the air, um...some.... a bit....? maybe?

......hit him directly, square in both hands lol

He didn't have to leap. It was a well-thrown pass whether it's considered directly in his hands or not. It was out and front of him and Lamb didn't have to stretch out his arms to catch it. He just had to reach up a little, which is normal. It looked to me like he alligator-armed it a little, not necessarily because he was afraid of the hit but because he wanted to make the catch quickly and try to turn it into more. The main thing he needs to work on is not just assuming he's going to make the catch and moving on mentally.