The play no one is discussing

[kskboys]

Explain the agenda, if you can. I gave Zeke a ton of credit for his blocking on Thursday. Is that part of my "agenda"? If I say Brown was awful in coverage, is that part of an "agenda"? If I say Greg the Leg cost us the game, is that part of an "agenda"? Unless the "agenda" is wanting this team to win, then I don't think you understand the word.

Dude, stop w/ the condescending BS. I don't even know what this was anymore. Aren't we usually friends?

 

[Cowfan75]

Dude, stop w/ the condescending BS. I don't even know what this was anymore. Aren't we usually friends?

Yes, we are.

 

[kskboys]

Yes, we are.

Sorry. Rockport stating hurling insults at me and it's frustrating because he's allowed. Wish they'd put a stop to it!!!!

We disagree about Zeke being explosive. Happens. Deepest apologies for my attitude!!!!!

 

[Kevinicus]

Jarwin screwed up on the block for sure, but you have to be able to juke out another player one on one, especially if you are one of the top paid RBs in the league.. when the play first started I thought Zeke was walking in.. make a quick cut to the right and I think he is still in...

That's not a juke situation. You have to look at momentum. Zeke was running to the outside. His momentum was toward the sideline. You can't really juke when you're going, and maybe more importantly - facing, perpendicular to the line of scrimmage.
Then you're limited to the sideline in one direction, and the defender is coming from the other. Attempting a "move" basically just stops you right in front of the defender for an easy tackle.

 

[BAT]

I was very happy with Moore's game plan, but I thought that call was a big mistake. I'm a big believer that you only run there if you are also going to go for it on 4th down. I didn't like the call at all regardless of the poor execution.

MM brilliance strikes again.

 

[AKATheRake]

That’s why just keep 2 TE’s and get a real FB on this team.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Now having a different look from the TV broadcast its clear Zeke could have easily made lemonade out of lemons.

Jarwin had inside position on the defender (Winfield #31) which is why it was so easy for him to separate from Jarwin because Zeke took the play wide. Had he simply made an easy cut inside, Jarwin is already in position to just wall off Winfield.

Hater

 

[Praxit]

....Jaws whiffed the dude, didn't even turn him. Failed one on one. Defender had the angle on Zeke the whole time.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Now having a different look from the TV broadcast its clear Zeke could have easily made lemonade out of lemons.

Jarwin had inside position on the defender (Winfield #31) which is why it was so easy for him to separate from Jarwin because Zeke took the play wide. Had he simply made an easy cut inside, Jarwin is already in position to just wall off Winfield.

HE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CONTACT!! How about next time we have ZEKE PASS IT INSTEAD??

 

[Awakened]

Pollard would’ve scored

 

[superonyx]

This is where we miss Witten's services. You are 100% correct about that but I believe Zeke shares some blame here as well.

The only thing Zeke did wrong on this play was to assume Jarwin would do his job.
People need to stop acting like this is the local high school. This is the NFL. No one is making a move on that defender and scoring. Fans have a hard time excepting that sometime the other guy wins also.
It doesnt mean the player who loses an individual battle is suddenly washed up or garbage. Just like Aaron Donald isnt washed up because Connor Williams slung him around on a few plays in the joint practice. Sometimes the other guy can win also.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

He shouldn't have positioned himself inside. If you look at the replay #31 has the inside if Zeke cuts in. Along with any defensive lineman that might be there.

You mean the d-lineman on the ground and the safety that’s running laterally to the play?

 

[HungryLion]

The only thing Zeke did wrong on this play was to assume Jarwin would do his job.
People need to stop acting like this is the local high school. This is the NFL. No one is making a move on that defender and scoring. Fans have a hard time excepting that sometime the other guy wins also.
It doesnt mean the player who loses an individual battle is suddenly washed up or garbage. Just like Aaron Donald isnt washed up because Connor Williams slung him around on a few plays in the joint practice. Sometimes the other guy can win also.

Your position is that no RB is able to win that open field 1 vs 1 battle and score a TD on that play?


Interesting.

 

[superonyx]

Your position is that no RB is able to win that open field 1 vs 1 battle and score a TD on that play?


Interesting.

No my position is that no RB will always be able to win that battle in that situation. Like I said, sometimes the other guy wins too.

I never said or implied that the guy who tackled Zeke was impossible to ever beat on an outside pitch. This was the position you preferred I take because its one that you are more comfortable to argue against.

 

[charron]

If jarwin blocks better Zeke is able to capture the outside as designed. Zeke hesitates because jarwins guy is free. Jarwin needed to shield Zeke better and released his guy to the inside as Zeke was behind jarwin.

 

[BlueStar22]

It was a terrible block. But a $50 million running back should be able to get through or around one guy.

Zeke is pretty much done.

Why do yall always cite how much money a player makes. It has nothing to do with what happens on the field. So what he makes big money, how does that affect getting through or around another professional football player?

 

[beware_d-ware]

If Zeke cuts upfield immediately after taking the pitch, he probably puts his head down on #31 and punches it in. But it was a designed outside run... his first read is to go outside, and he trusted Jarwin to seal his block for about 2 steps too long.

Jarwin completely missed, and after 1-2 steps outside Zeke is screwed. There's now a safety squared up on the outside and pursuit flowing in to help from the inside.

I don't blame Zeke on this play... the play call was to follow Jarwin's lead block outside and Jarwin failed him. Adjusting for that with an inside dive would have taken a seriously fast read that I don't think you can expect from any player.

It is what it is. We'll have more fodder for Zeke arguments soon enough, he won't be mothballed against the #1 run defense every week.

 

[Cowfan75]

Sorry. Rockport stating hurling insults at me and it's frustrating because he's allowed. Wish they'd put a stop to it!!!!

We disagree about Zeke being explosive. Happens. Deepest apologies for my attitude!!!!!

I hear you. He does seem to be mysteriously exempt from the rules...every year.

My apologies as well. I've been in a foul mood since the loss, but that doesn't excuse my attitude.

 

[Flamma]

You mean the d-lineman on the ground and the safety that’s running laterally to the play?

Had Zeke turned it inside #31 would have been there to meet him. So either way he would have had to go through someone unblocked. I'm not sure about the D-lineman. But the closer you are to the tackles the better chance one will be there.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Had Zeke turned it inside #31 would have been there to meet him. So either way he would have had to go through someone unblocked. I'm not sure about the D-lineman. But the closer you are to the tackles the better chance one will be there.