This defense still has a ways to go. Pass defense is killing us

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So far, with the exception of turnover ratio (ranking 1st) we've flip from one of 2020 worst defensive rankings to another one for 2021. In other words, last season we had the league's worst rushing defense ( dead last) and spent the offseason hell-bent on fixing it. The good news is it so far this season, we are ranked 6th rushing yards allowed BUT the bad news, we are dead last passing defense ( 31st ). That is, 31st in total passing yards allowed and passing yards allowed per game.

https://www.lineups.com/nfl-team-rankings/defense

Not trying to be negative Nancy here but a couple of things to keep in mind.....

  • Quinn is a former Dline coach
  • We are 16th in points allowed per game. IF we can improve this to at least top 10, the 31st yards ranking issue won't matter much. Why? As Belichick says ( many here know I've repeated this a 1000 times) only two defensive stats really impacts the game, turnover ratio and scoring defense ( keeping points off the board).
  • What happens if we don't fix the passing yard issue? Look no further than the Panthers letting them back in the game and nearly lost. This has been an issue with his defenses, giving up points late in games
  • Also, teams with a good QB AND Oline can put up a lot of points, especially late in the game when your D is tired.
  • On January 22, 2017, Quinn's Falcons won the NFC Championship against the Green Bay Packers 44–21, clinching a berth to play in Super Bowl LI against the New England Patriots.[15] Up 21–3 at halftime and 28–3 in the third quarter, the Falcons blew the largest lead in Super Bowl history and lost the game in overtime by a score of 34–28.[16][17]
 

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Stats don't tell the entire picture here. Teams are getting tons of yards passing cause Dallas is getting big leads in 2nd half and going away from the run game.

Points per game is also misleading, for example, against Carolina Dallas had a 22 point lead in the 4th quarter and played some backups and Carolina scored 2 TDs. Against Philly the offense gave 7 on a fumble in the endzone and again gave up a garbage TD in the 4th. That's 28 points that either the offense or defense gave away freely.
 

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They seemingly played somewhat of a prevent or less aggressive D in the 4th. Agree or disagree with the strategy, it all goes as planned if you don't give up 55 yards on a 4th down & 8.
 

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what is letting them in the game? They never had a chance to do anything. Just bc you get scared doesn’t mean the game is out of hand.

The issue is giving up cheap points late in the game. Yes, we won, and I'm happy about that but it's something to keep an eye on. Remember Zeke's post-game comment about choking opponents.
 

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The defense is fine and the stats are stupid.

Yards mean nothing.
 

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So far, with the exception of turnover ratio (ranking 1st) we've flip from one of 2020 worst defensive rankings to another one for 2021. In other words, last season we had the league's worst rushing defense ( dead last) and spent the offseason hell-bent on fixing it. The good news is it so far this season, we are ranked 6th rushing yards allowed BUT the bad news, we are dead last passing defense ( 31st ). That is, 31st in total passing yards allowed and passing yards allowed per game.

https://www.lineups.com/nfl-team-rankings/defense

Not trying to be negative Nancy here but a couple of things to keep in mind.....

  • Quinn is a former Dline coach
  • We are 16th in points allowed per game. IF we can improve this to at least top 10, the 31st yards ranking issue won't matter much. Why? As Belichick says ( many here know I've repeated this a 1000 times) only two defensive stats really impacts the game, turnover ratio and scoring defense ( keeping points off the board).
  • What happens if we don't fix the passing yard issue? Look no further than the Panthers letting them back in the game and nearly lost. This has been an issue with his defenses, giving up points late in games
  • Also, teams with a good QB AND Oline can put up a lot of points, especially late in the game when your D is tired.
  • On January 22, 2017, Quinn's Falcons won the NFC Championship against the Green Bay Packers 44–21, clinching a berth to play in Super Bowl LI against the New England Patriots.[15] Up 21–3 at halftime and 28–3 in the third quarter, the Falcons blew the largest lead in Super Bowl history and lost the game in overtime by a score of 34–28.[16][17]
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The other teams seem to have wideouts running uncovered through our secondary at various times

We have to eliminate these blown coverages
 

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The issue is giving up cheap points late in the game. Yes, we won, and I'm happy about that but it's something to keep an eye on. Remember Zeke's post-game comment about choking opponents.


Teams give up cheap points with big leads. Ask 2020 Dak.

As leads increase defenses play softer and trade yards for time.
 

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So far, with the exception of turnover ratio (ranking 1st) we've flip from one of 2020 worst defensive rankings to another one for 2021. In other words, last season we had the league's worst rushing defense ( dead last) and spent the offseason hell-bent on fixing it. The good news is it so far this season, we are ranked 6th rushing yards allowed BUT the bad news, we are dead last passing defense ( 31st ). That is, 31st in total passing yards allowed and passing yards allowed per game.

https://www.lineups.com/nfl-team-rankings/defense

Not trying to be negative Nancy here but a couple of things to keep in mind.....

  • Quinn is a former Dline coach
  • We are 16th in points allowed per game. IF we can improve this to at least top 10, the 31st yards ranking issue won't matter much. Why? As Belichick says ( many here know I've repeated this a 1000 times) only two defensive stats really impacts the game, turnover ratio and scoring defense ( keeping points off the board).
  • What happens if we don't fix the passing yard issue? Look no further than the Panthers letting them back in the game and nearly lost. This has been an issue with his defenses, giving up points late in games
  • Also, teams with a good QB AND Oline can put up a lot of points, especially late in the game when your D is tired.
  • On January 22, 2017, Quinn's Falcons won the NFC Championship against the Green Bay Packers 44–21, clinching a berth to play in Super Bowl LI against the New England Patriots.[15] Up 21–3 at halftime and 28–3 in the third quarter, the Falcons blew the largest lead in Super Bowl history and lost the game in overtime by a score of 34–28.[16][17]

Nothing wrong with being realistic. The D HAS to get stingy to make a run in the playoffs. The takeaways are game changers but we can’t count on Diggs getting two INTs every game which means we’re going to have to force three and outs at some point.
 

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If the Panthers game tells us anything it's that if Diggs goes out we are in trouble.

The Panthers scored an easy 14 points with Diggs taken the rest of the day off.
 

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They seemingly played somewhat of a prevent or less aggressive D in the 4th. Agree or disagree with the strategy, it all goes as planned if you don't give up 55 yards on a 4th down & 8.

Ok......So Zeke's choking comment was about.........

BTW.....over 4 games we are dead last in passing yards allowed. It's going to bite us in the azz if can't stop the scoring.
 

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Teams give up cheap points with big leads. Ask 2020 Dak.

As leads increase defenses play softer and trade yards for time.
What’s so hard to understand about this?
 

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Ok......So Zeke's choking comment was about.........

The offense didn't score after the 14:56 mark in the 4th. The chances of Zeke calling out or questioning what's going on defensively are slim to none.
 
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