Diggs wasn’t really beat on the 75 yard touchdown

[speedkilz88]

 

[T-RO]

In defense of Kazee...if he does go for the ball in any way it's a certain collision with the receiver. And a big one.

And then the Zebras get to roam the Serenghetti as lions.

 

[CATCH17]

I know for sure Kazee misplayed it.
I think if Diggs doesn't jump the out route the ball is never thrown, so think he's also partially to blame.

Getting “beat” initially vs getting burned are different things.

He had recovered from the double move and could’ve made a play on the ball and passed it off to the safety. The top of the route is everything.

Kazee burned Diggs.

 

[CATCH17]

For Kazee’s sake I kinda hope that is true and he was passing off because that angle was so so bad but I don’t know why he would make that decision on that particular play.

 

[Dallasfann]

I screamed at the TV..why didn't Diggs try to intercept that. It's almost like he didn't go for it. He could of picked it easily. I think he was worried about his safety help and running into him. If Kazee wouldn't of been there I think Diggs picks it.

 

[Szczepanik]

More Kazee than Diggs on the play. Diggs had bit on the double move however had help over the top to allow him to bite on the double. If Kazee wasn't playing conservative , it is a clear big hit on the WR.

 

[droopdog7]

How many understood that on the patriots 75 yard td, that we were in man to man coverage?
Anyway whether you did or didn’t, Diggs wasn’t really beat, yes he bit on the double move
but he wasn’t beat , Just watched that play again, stopped it rewound it went frame by frame. Here’s my question anyone else noticed how fast Diggs closed down the receiver once he saw Jones release the ball he was about to pick another until he saw Kazee coming and he pulled up, if you don’t believe me go back and watch the play again, slow it down and you will see that he was about to pick that but slowed down when he thought Kazee was about to make a play on the ball, receiver or both.

I agree 100% that Diggs pulled up. I guess he thought kazee had the play and didn’t want to run into him.

 

[droopdog7]

He bit on the double move then tried to undercut the throw. No need to pretend otherwise.

And for some reason, he also pulled up instead of trying to make a play on the ball. That’s also plain as day.

 

[bsbellomy]

He bit on the double move then tried to undercut the throw. No need to pretend otherwise.

No he was in position to jump and get the ball but saw a massive three man collision coming and made a business decision. No need to pretend otherwise.

 

[bsbellomy]

You can disagree all you want that was his man, he knew it and said so himself. I'm not down on him but it was his man safety or no safety

If you believe him taking ownership of the play in postgame means anything then I've got a beach plot in Ohio to sell you.

 

[DuncanIso]

How many understood that on the patriots 75 yard td, that we were in man to man coverage?
Anyway whether you did or didn’t, Diggs wasn’t really beat, yes he bit on the double move
but he wasn’t beat , Just watched that play again, stopped it rewound it went frame by frame. Here’s my question anyone else noticed how fast Diggs closed down the receiver once he saw Jones release the ball he was about to pick another until he saw Kazee coming and he pulled up, if you don’t believe me go back and watch the play again, slow it down and you will see that he was about to pick that but slowed down when he thought Kazee was about to make a play on the ball, receiver or both.

looked like Diggs was playing trail

S has over

 

[Ranched]

Who cares. He got 7th pick & Dallas won. Move on....

 

[xwalker]

How many understood that on the patriots 75 yard td, that we were in man to man coverage?
Anyway whether you did or didn’t, Diggs wasn’t really beat, yes he bit on the double move
but he wasn’t beat , Just watched that play again, stopped it rewound it went frame by frame. Here’s my question anyone else noticed how fast Diggs closed down the receiver once he saw Jones release the ball he was about to pick another until he saw Kazee coming and he pulled up, if you don’t believe me go back and watch the play again, slow it down and you will see that he was about to pick that but slowed down when he thought Kazee was about to make a play on the ball, receiver or both.

Agree.

• Diggs was easily right back even with the WR after the double move.
  • That WR is not fast. Diggs could easily have run past him before the ball arrived.
  • Diggs played under because the Safety was over.
  • Many of his INTs have come from playing under.
  • There is no doubt that Diggs would have played that differently if the Safety was not there.
• I think the Safety misjudged the ball or completely lost sight of it.
  • If the Safety was not there Diggs likely would have made his over-under move.
• On the over-under move he gets deeper than the WR and then comes back under from the other side.
  • It is a move that most CBs don't use but Diggs has done it multiple times.
• There is some risk in the under style in man coverage.
  • It depends on having 'over' help if Diggs does not get his hands on the ball.

• Diggs is awesome but nobody is Deion.
  • They didn't give Deion Safety help.
    • Deion often played under to bait QBs into throwing to his side.
  • He could make up the difference even against the fastest WRs in the league.
    • I still remember the Raiders trying to go deep on Deion with their Olympic sprinter type WRs.
    • Deion ran past their super speed WRs and was waiting for the ball like a punt returner waiting on a punt.
  • I feel bad for young fans that never watched the early Nineties Cowboys or Deion.
    • Deion is a arse on a person level but his athletic ability was as unique as any player in any sport ever.
    • It was just speed. He has the best body control of any player and he did it when running full speed.
    • He could stop on a dime and immediately be back at full speed.
    • His punt returns and reverse type plays on offense were magical.
  • The closest thing to an Achilles heel for Deion was when he played against Mike Irvin and Aikman.
    • Irvin's game was not based on speed. Irvin just boxed out DBs with his big body.
    • The precision timing and accuracy of Aikman made Irvin very difficult to defend.

 

[xwalker]

Whether it was 2 man under, or he was in a soft squat, hard flat, cloud flat, etc.. he got beat and Kazee was either trying to be a super hero or doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing and bit wayyy too hard on the first half of the double move (the out route)

He bit on the double move then tried to undercut the throw. No need to pretend otherwise.

Wrong. Diggs did not "get beat". Kazee was at fault.

The double-move had no impact on the play. Diggs was easily right back even with the WR but played under because Kazee was over.

 

[JoeKing]

Kazee was a fault on that play.

 

[Proximo]

If you’re right and Diggs tried to undercut the throw then he might have the worst ball skills in NFL history but based on this video and what we know about his ball skills I’m pretty sure he wasn’t undercutting the throw and he was passing him off to the safety.

Wow, yea the slow motion vid is very telling.
He deliberately let up and then his body language right afterwards is all anyone should need to see to know that it wasn’t as simple as “he got burned by the double move”.

 

[quickccc]

Agree.

• Diggs is awesome but nobody is Deion.
  • They didn't give Deion Safety help.
    • Deion often played under to bait QBs into throwing to his side.
  • He could make up the difference even against the fastest WRs in the league.
    • I still remember the Raiders trying to go deep on Deion with their Olympic sprinter type WRs.
    • Deion ran past their super speed WRs and was waiting for the ball like a punt returner waiting on a punt.
  • I feel bad for young fans that never watched the early Nineties Cowboys or Deion.
    • Deion is a arse on a person level but his athletic ability was as unique as any player in any sport ever.
    • It was just speed. He has the best body control of any player and he did it when running full speed.
    • He could stop on a dime and immediately be back at full speed.
    • His punt returns and reverse type plays on offense were magical.
  • The closest thing to an Achilles heel for Deion was when he played against Mike Irvin and Aikman.
    • Irvin's game was not based on speed. Irvin just boxed out DBs with his big body.
    • The precision timing and accuracy of Aikman made Irvin very difficult to defend.

+1

Deion was also probably the very best at " Baiting " the QB into thinking his WR was open, giving that WR a deceptive cushion and pass lane
before Prime would burst in front of the WR, INT the ball, and take it to the house for a quick pick six,.. with that high-step dance.

Between his astounding play at CB, he brought that element as a punt returner as well.
and then there were the reverse end around runs., and spot play as a speed WR.
In short, Sanders brought a flair to his all roles.... and is still the example to which all CBs will be measured.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Two quick thoughts:

-It's funny how Diggs has become football Jesus around here. Some view any criticism of any Digg's play as a violation of their sacred code.

-From my view Kazee was 100% tentative because he wasn't sure how to play it. Go for the ball? Knock the guy silly? Wrap up? Let Diggs make the play? I think all the rules changes and fear of the Pats friendly refs was swimming round hard in his head. And he might have thought the best choice was to defer to ball-hawking Mr. Diggs.

How would you have played it as safety? I'm not sure in that split second what I would have done.

100%

Now I’m seeing on another thread someone supposing Diggs was just trying to be considerate and let his teammate (Kazee) “get some.”

 

[jazzcat22]

How many understood that on the patriots 75 yard td, that we were in man to man coverage?
Anyway whether you did or didn’t, Diggs wasn’t really beat, yes he bit on the double move
but he wasn’t beat , Just watched that play again, stopped it rewound it went frame by frame. Here’s my question anyone else noticed how fast Diggs closed down the receiver once he saw Jones release the ball he was about to pick another until he saw Kazee coming and he pulled up, if you don’t believe me go back and watch the play again, slow it down and you will see that he was about to pick that but slowed down when he thought Kazee was about to make a play on the ball, receiver or both.

I agree somewhat, as I watched that 10 or 12 times now. I feel Kazee overran his position and may have thought he was going to get a pick 6. So played the ball over the WR.
If Diggs did not bite on the double move, then he had a shot at a pick.

So it really was both of their fault. Some say Jones made a heck of a throw, which he did, but it was also a gamble and got lucky in a way.
It is a learning experience for both, but Kazee really should have known better. A learning experience that could have cost us the game.
But Dak to the rescue.

 

[Rayman70]

Kazee misjudged it badly, bad angling etc. Diggs backed off because he thought Kazee had the int. He guessed wrong. He will learn from that.