Film watchers - can you assess LVE play?

Irvin88_4life

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Huh? Are you saying Jaylon was playing better than LVE and other LBs in the NFL?
Yes. He isn't the worst LB in the league regardless if he is most people's whipping boy.

He isn't a above average player either. Just an average LB that will make mistakes but is available every game and gives effort
 

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I don't watch film and wouldn’t really be able to assess in a non-fan way anyway, so would appreciate if anyone that does could give thoughtful descriptive analysis of his play this year?

Like I know to me he seems nothing like his rookie year in terms of movement and taking on blockers, but would be cool to hear an educated take. Thanks.
He misses jaylon maybe..lol
 

Robster8989

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Honestly I think Gifford and Bernard would be better options ** this point.

You're right.
LVE is mediocre.
Gifford has actually looked really good in his limited snaps. Looks big, strong, fast and has pop.
 

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There have been many and much worse 1st round picks than LVE.

Not many for the Cowboys.

In the last 12 years there's been three failures (Taco, Claiborne and LVE). The other 8 picks (M.Parsons, C.Lamb, B.Jones, Z.Martin, T.Frederick, T.Smith, E.Elliott, D.Bryant) were huge success or in the case of Lamb/Parsons look to be. Note: The missing 1st is the year we traded for Cooper and didn't have a 1st
 

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LVE should of joined Jaylon. Horrible against the run. Average versus the pass. Good luck getting a huge contract next season from anybody:facepalm:
 

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Maybe he and Kazee can go into “business” together.

Kazee hesitated on that one TD play but I would say he's the furthest thing from a guy that makes business decisions. Week 1 fumble is a great example of what I mean.
 

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I don't watch film and wouldn’t really be able to assess in a non-fan way anyway, so would appreciate if anyone that does could give thoughtful descriptive analysis of his play this year?

Like I know to me he seems nothing like his rookie year in terms of movement and taking on blockers, but would be cool to hear an educated take. Thanks.

Like Jim Mora famously said, the only people who know whether a player is 'doing his job' on any given play are his coaches. People can guess. Sometimes they'll be right, sometimes not, but nobody knows for sure.
 

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Without being bias go watch film of this season of every play of both Leighton and Jaylon Smith. After that if you come away that Jaylon wasn't playing better than Leighton, much less than anyone in the league, than you haven't a clue what you are watching
You know you can’t give facts to the Jaylon haters. LVE only played better then Jaylon for one season (rookie year). Jaylon has the higher PFF grade the last 3 seasons.
 

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Like Jim Mora famously said, the only people who know whether a player is 'doing his job' on any given play are his coaches. People can guess. Sometimes they'll be right, sometimes not, but nobody knows for sure.
the player doesn't know either? that would seem to be the root cause of the issue. :laugh:
 

Irvin88_4life

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I think people are misinterpreting his advice to Parsons. No, you cannot and should not try to make every play! You must focus on doing your job, not running after everything you think you see, that’s when a defense gives up big plays. You fill your gap, you cover your zone, you stay home sometimes to stop the cutback.

Part of LVEs response was “sometimes that’s another guy’s play to make.” It doesn’t mean be a slacker and let someone else make the play. Ever heard Belichek quoted, “Just do your job” ?

It’s part of having a solid, sound defense.
I disagree. If Parsons is in coverage and a runner is past the line of scrimmage, they can't pass the ball, so Parsons should leave his coverage assignment and make the play.

Diggs has left his assignment in coverage and ended up with a pick. If a player reads a play then go make the play.

Defending what Leighton said is silly and really the problem with some of these players. Make a play
 

Irvin88_4life

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You know you can’t give facts to the Jaylon haters. LVE only played better then Jaylon for one season (rookie year). Jaylon has the higher PFF grade the last 3 seasons.
Yep you are 100 percent correct. When a player becomes the whipping boy, facts no longer matter. Everything they do is trash and gets blamed for things that wasn't their fault
 

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Don't watch film, but from watching the game I see a slow running, weak tackling, block catcher. I liked LVE, but something hasn't been right for awhile now with him.

Honestly I think Gifford and Bernard would be better options ** this point.
As much rotating as DQ has been doing maybe they can get a couple plays to see how they do, at some point.
 

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Some things aren't hard to determine even if we aren't the coaches and have never played at a professional level.

When a hole opens up, the linebacker sees the back and runs away from the hole, it doesn't take a Belichick to know he didn't fill the hole when he should have.

In my limited time assistant coaching community football, I know that if you can make an imminent tackle as a corner, you don't run to cover the wide receiver streaking down the field.
 

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I don't watch film and wouldn’t really be able to assess in a non-fan way anyway, so would appreciate if anyone that does could give thoughtful descriptive analysis of his play this year?

Like I know to me he seems nothing like his rookie year in terms of movement and taking on blockers, but would be cool to hear an educated take. Thanks.

He's going to tear it up with Parsons...their still learning. When you have rushers after the QB...all hell is going to break loose! lol
 

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LVE and Hooker look slower than all of their counterparts. I am a simple cowboys fan, but that is very apparent to myself every game.
 

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Now I’m thinking, have any of our LBs met or exceeded expectations (Parsons aside who can see fro DE time is a Freak).
 
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