Watching other teams run block today was depressing

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Everything but blaming the horrid Zeke. You are predictable and small minded. Even our head coach admits that Zeke isn't himself.

Zeke is either injured or he sucks. And despite Oline issues, which there are, Pollard continues to average a yard more per carry in most cases.

There is nothing wrong with our OC other than the fact that he continues to waste carries on a guy that is either over the hill or injured.

No one is asking Dak to win throwing 80% of the time. Its just when Zeke sucks so bad we have to.

You continue to prove you know nothing about football and your fail miserably to analyze your hero Zeke.
As usual your hatred shows football imbecility.
 

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The Cowboys are 7th in rush yards per game....I wouldn't overreact just yet. I have to believe that the inability to rush the football has way more to do with how teams are playing us right now. Especially with no Lamb and no Coop it's been stack the line and make Dak beat you with his #3/4 receivers. As a whole our oline is more of a finesse unit as is. Need to get those guys back, and see some success on down field throws. Drops & Dak just being inaccurate the last few weeks have just killed us. I think we start to see a few more connections as we get our top two guys back and all of a sudden, those holes in the run game start to open back up.
 

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teams are playing 2 man on us.

they get away with it because we aren’t running the football.

Yep.

When we do run it’s usually on first down.. It’s gotten predictable.

Hopefully Zeke rests this week and Pollard gets the start.
 

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The Cowboys are 7th in rush yards per game....I wouldn't overreact just yet. I have to believe that the inability to rush the football has way more to do with how teams are playing us right now. Especially with no Lamb and no Coop it's been stack the line and make Dak beat you with his #3/4 receivers. As a whole our oline is more of a finesse unit as is. Need to get those guys back, and see some success on down field throws. Drops & Dak just being inaccurate the last few weeks have just killed us. I think we start to see a few more connections as we get our top two guys back and all of a sudden, those holes in the run game start to open back up.


This press man coverage teams are using has absolutely thrown our offense for a loop.


On top of that.. Dallas wants Dak to go win them the game with his arm.

When we jump out to a lead our offense, especially Dak, is an incredible front runner.

But my gosh when we play from behind and abandon the run it’s ugly.

I think our answer to a lot of this right now is more Tony Pollard and I would even ask them to run more of a no huddle offense to tire the defense out if they want to play man to man all game.
 

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Everything but blaming the horrid Zeke. You are predictable and small minded. Even our head coach admits that Zeke isn't himself.

Zeke is either injured or he sucks. And despite Oline issues, which there are, Pollard continues to average a yard more per carry in most cases.

There is nothing wrong with our OC other than the fact that he continues to waste carries on a guy that is either over the hill or injured.

No one is asking Dak to win throwing 80% of the time. Its just when Zeke sucks so bad we have to.

You continue to prove you know nothing about football and your fail miserably to analyze your hero Zeke.
Can you believe this guy? He thinks Pollard doesn't have any 2 yard runs. He thinks Tony hasn't been plowed over in blocking.
Truly astounding hater.
 

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and again Pap smear the point goes over your head. He is talking about a running game so what does that have to do with needing 7 seconds to throw? You make no sense ever
He's talking about having a qb the defense fears....or at least respects. Yes dak CAN make good throws. But he's also the qb who threw the ball in the dirt in last week's ot.

For me....dak certainly gets another shot with one or both top wrs back. But...an elite qb doesn't miss that throw.
 

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"Baltimore is pressuring the Browns with this 8 man front and so far the Browns have not been able to do enough in the passing game to force them out of it."

Chris Collinsworth.
Another very average qb at the helm.
 

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and again Pap smear the point goes over your head. He is talking about a running game so what does that have to do with needing 7 seconds to throw? You make no sense ever

He never has and he never will. Ignore him.. that's what I do..
 

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teams are playing 2 man on us.

they get away with it because we aren’t running the football.

Teams mix up coverages against us and everybody else.. They have to or we draw a bead on it and destroy it. Well more accurate to say they try to make it look like they mix it up. Everybody has a style and plan but no team can survive playing the same coverage 100% of the time. But your point about why it works is correct.. We don't run the ball so we let them dictate when to bring the SS down and when to go 5 man front etc. There has been a recurring theme about our not matching the other team's physicality and aggressiveness on the field in games. There are two ways to accomplish that.. Pound the rock and smash them in the mouth and take deep shots in the passing game. We're not doing either with any regularity. There were multiple times when the Raiders singled Gallup with a guy who absolutely could not run with him in Thursday's game. Two or three times we ran him deep and beat him.. The rest of the time we ran slants and in cuts which took Gallup back inside where the safety was there to help.. Who the hell called that?
 

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He's talking about having a qb the defense fears....or at least respects. Yes dak CAN make good throws. But he's also the qb who threw the ball in the dirt in last week's ot.

For me....dak certainly gets another shot with one or both top wrs back. But...an elite qb doesn't miss that throw.

Come on dude.. don't join in the hate fest with these other morons.. The throw was behind.. but it also hit Noah Brown in the arm. It's a catch that NFL receivers are expected to make 99 out of 100 times. They're not paid to only catch perfect passes.
 

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Another very average qb at the helm.
I haven't seen enough of Mayfield to really have an opinion.

A couple things have stood out to me from what I have seen. He is a warrior who seems to always trying to make something happen.

He has a ton of confidence in his arm. Some of those tight window throws he made last night were laser-like and right into the teeth of the secondary. If Dak had the confidence and/or ability to make those types of throws he would truly be what his most rabid fans claim him to be.
 

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Come on dude.. don't join in the hate fest with these other morons.. The throw was behind.. but it also hit Noah Brown in the arm. It's a catch that NFL receivers are expected to make 99 out of 100 times. They're not paid to only catch perfect passes.

LOL

That would have been a ridiculous catch but he paints it as routine.

You pretty much have to lie to defend Prescott.
 

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I saw some of this too. But I was also watching TEs in the running game and it is amazing how TEs on some teams actually help create running lanes for the RBs. Dallas does not have a TE who can block. I am wondering if losing Jarwin hurt. I never thought he was much of a run blocker but I wasn't really paying that much attention to him.
 

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That’s because those teams play heavy cover 2 zone against those QBs, scared to death QBs like Rodgers or Herbert would make them pay against all the man coverage, while defenses play 8 in the box against us.

We do the same thing. We drop men back in coverage all days against those QBs..

This OL has been carrying the team since 2016….
 
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Come on dude.. don't join in the hate fest with these other morons.. The throw was behind.. but it also hit Noah Brown in the arm. It's a catch that NFL receivers are expected to make 99 out of 100 times. They're not paid to only catch perfect passes.
This completely ignores the fact that putting the ball in a much better place for the receiver to handle it, is a throw that NFL qb's are expected to make 99 out of a 100. They are paid to do just that.
 

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I’m with you 100%. Even the part about envying other teams yesterday watching the commitment to the run.

It’s about winning football games right? I’m sure you’re familiar with the stat that since Dak has been quarterback, we are undefeated when we run more than we pass. Since 2016. Undefeated. Something like 29-0.

Why this isn’t drilled as part of the game plan or monitored in-game goes to the fact that offensively, the brain trust is pass first. I remember McCarthy receiving criticism in GB for not running enough with the talent he had in the backfield and I believe your post about Kellen lacking creativity etc with the run game was spot on because he sees it as an afterthought or, probably, more accurately, doesn’t believe it effective unless we are getting chunk plays, i.e., 5+ yds per carry so he abandons it. Of course, there is also when we are getting that yardage and then he abruptly goes to empty backfield. Head scratcher. Does he not see the way an offense unites and gets fired up when it bulldozes a team down the field running the ball? Chip chip chip away until the wall crumbles and falls in the end zone and the OL surround and maul the back who got it in?

Like you I also thought he “got it” earlier on our win streak but we were also gashing teams. It’s the continual pounding the commitment to the run game provides that leads to the wins in November, December and the playoffs against the better defenses.

I’ve seen us execute double teams with crazy success. But it doesn’t seem to be a staple of our run game. Our staple with our downhill I-back lead runner is shotgun draw - fake pass to run. No lead block, no aggression by OL. Hate it.

Unless it somehow changes, I see what was a promising season going straight down the toilet.
https://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3310114.nsf/home/statistical+language+-+correlation+and+causation
 

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Man it made sad as I watched multiple teams open up gaping holes for their backs down after down. It also made me realize that our line is nowhere near as good as its reputation. Well let me qualify that.. Our line cannot execute Kellen Moore's run plays as good as its reputation. What I notice about other teams is that they tend to double team at the point of attack. The Packers did it to Aaron Donald a dozen times when they needed to run the ball. Same with the Bucs when they were closing out the game against the Colts.. And the Broncos against the Chargers.. Admittedly I didn't study it as intently as I do our schemes, but I saw precious little of the slide step reach blocking we feature in our running attack. Maybe Moore thinks our guys are more athletic than they are.. but we repeatedly allow penetration when we run this scheme. Yes we can gash teams with sorry *** fronts with it but against even decent fronts our linemen get knocked into the backfield more often than not. Against good fronts we have no chance whatsoever to run the ball. I also noticed that teams stayed committed to the run even when it wasn't yielding big yards. Dillon and Jones were averaging just over 3 ypc against the Rams but they kept hammering at it all game long. They never surrendered the way we do. And they have Aaron Freaking Rodgers at QB.. Oh and that guy with the Bucs is an okay QB too.. yet they also kept pounding the run even when it was getting them under 4 ypc until late in the game. Yes WE have turned completely skittish about running the ball and shift into 5 wide empty backfield at the drop of a hat. I love Dak Prescott as much as anyone but it's absolutely brain dead that we keep asking him to do what even teams with Hall of Fame QBs don't ask of them.. win throwing it 75-80% of the time without even a hint of a rushing attack. What the hell is wrong with our offensive coordinator that he can't see this?
we were doing this during that 6 game win streak and got away from it..its odd isnt it..Moore reverted back to old moore and became pass happy and also i believe daks checking out of run plays far too often etc etc..we have been making changes along the line all year trying to find the best combo and this needs to settle down and get back to the basics..
 

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Watching Tampa with Fournette yesterday and seeing people slobber over Fournette.

Fournette is not even good. He is a product of a QB who is unbelievable at executing an offense and Tampa actually does things to get him in space.

If Elliot played for Tampa and We had Fournette you guys would be upset with how badly we got ripped off.

Id love to see Elliot thrown into space like that.

Heck.. Some check downs to our backs in general would be nice.
 
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