Our O-line is our only chance at success

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.

When you have slow man(Mentally and now physically)Luke at QB who needs 5+ sec to decide where to throw.
An HB who has seen better days due to his overuse.
The offline needs to be supermen to keep us in any games.
Ya GL with that.......as yes there are def-lineman out there that don't play for the Falcons.
 

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Unfortunately, as another thread indicated, our O line isn't that great if you watch other NFL teams. But I do agree, if they don't raise their game, it's going to be difficult for this team to be consistent and\or compete with the better teams.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.


So before I address this post and your football analysis.....were you the same poster who said this:

"Same skill set as Jaylon.. Trash pick."

....in regards to Micah Parsons? Just trying to make sure you're the same guy.
 

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I don't think the Cowboys O-line is capable of leading the team anymore, like they did in 2016. Two spots are not as talented as the guys who played then and the two best guys are 5 years older. One of them has a hard time staying on the field.
Yeah them days are over....as I just discussed with another poster those days died when Fredericks career was over. They have to now win in spite of the line.
 

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The Patriots have been the best blocking team for as long as Belechick has been the coach. That’s why Brady still plays at a high level. I don’t think that guy has EVER taken a hard hit. He’s not all beat up like Big Ben or Eli was.
 
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I don't think the Cowboys O-line is capable of leading the team anymore, like they did in 2016. Two spots are not as talented as the guys who played then and the two best guys are 5 years older. One of them has a hard time staying on the field.

The first month or so of the season, Martin looked to be the dominant bull he was early in his career. Not sure the reason but he hasn't been winning like that lately. Not saying he's playing bad. But there is a significant difference between how he started the season & the last several games. We really need him to be his old self if this line is going to set the table for the rest of the offense.
 

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the only reliable person left on the line from 2014-18 is Martin and people forget how good Leary was and Tfred. Our back ups need to step up be quality starters like Steele has done aftyer his growing pains. Unlike the 3 stooges in this thread I believe all QBs are contingent on good lines for success. When starters are out and they are still successful its less about the QBs remarkable ability to cover for them than it about the back up stepping up and doing the job. Green bays back up has done a fine job. It does help to have a hall of famer at QB and the best WR in the league and your RB is top 5.

The patriots have always drafted well.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.
Still, we did score 33 and had 437 yards of total offense, so it's not like the offense totally stunk it up even without the running game.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.


Yes Rodgers was under intense pressure against the Rams...how many times did they pressure and sack him? So you are right if the starting LT goes down for GB and there is still no pressure, nope Rodgers will not feel the lose of said LT. Again its a silly statement.


AND OF COURSE the O-line matters..who the hell says it does not...jesus.
 

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Yes Rodgers was under intense pressure against the Rams...how many times did they pressure and sack him? So you are right if the starting LT goes down for GB and there is still no pressure, nope Rodgers will not feel the lose of said LT. Again its a silly statement.


AND OF COURSE the O-line matters..who the hell says it does not...jesus.

I didn’t say the Oline didn’t matter. Comprehend better.

I said no team depends on their Oline to have success like the Cowboys besides the Patriots.
 

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So before I address this post and your football analysis.....were you the same poster who said this:

"Same skill set as Jaylon.. Trash pick."

....in regards to Micah Parsons? Just trying to make sure you're the same guy.

I stand by that to. As linebackers they have a similar skill set.

I can go to a highschool basketball game and say that a player has the same skill set as Larry Bird. It doesn’t mean that player is Larry Bird. It means their skill set is similar. Please stop being dumb. Thanks.
 

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I didn’t say the Oline didn’t matter. Comprehend better.

I said no team depends on their Oline to have success like the Cowboys besides the Patriots.


No every team needs the O-line to play if they want to have offensive success..seriously..thats ridiculous on every front..bad o-lines lead to bad offense. No team escapes that..I have been on record before as asking why this franchise needs 1st round picks at every o-line position (Looking at you JG) but no good offense is doing it inspite of a bad o-line. again your trying to fit everything into one game at KC, that was bad like historic bad play by an o-line...your just omitting facts acting like the offense played the same vs the raiders.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.
Games are always won in the pits. So
 

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Every team is dependent on their O-Line & D- Line, for that matter.

Go look at the top teams & they all have very good OLs.

Bucs, Chiefs, Rams, even the Packers.

I disagree.

Most teams rely on their QB and playcalling.

Most NFL teams don’t have very good offensive lines. NFL Olines in genera are not very good.

A lot of these QBs either get the ball out quick or they use mobility to extend plays.

Dallas unfortunately is not one of those teams who has that luxury. Without great blocking we are bad.
 

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No every team needs the O-line to play if they want to have offensive success..seriously..thats ridiculous on every front..bad o-lines lead to bad offense. No team escapes that..I have been on record before as asking why this franchise needs 1st round picks at every o-line position (Looking at you JG) but no good offense is doing it inspite of a bad o-line. again your trying to fit everything into one game at KC, that was bad like historic bad play by an o-line...your just omitting facts acting like the offense played the same vs the raiders.

A lot of teams escape it. A lot of teams play with injuries and do just fine.

That is why mobile QBs are flourishing in this league.

I don’t think there has ever been a time in the NFL where offensive lines are so bad and so many coaches have decided to just spread teams out and try to play 7 on 7 football.

It’s a quick passing, spread, and abandon the run league.

Dallas can’t play that way. We have to be a throwback team.
 
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