Overcoming the “Excuse Culture”

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The one player I see IMO that can change the excuse culture we all have grown to despise is Parsons. The young man has the heart and drive of a lion ready to go feeding. You can see it in his eyes he doesn't like losing. Now will this team listen to a young rookie or will Jones find some way to bring him over to the soft culture side?
I agree that Parsons has that special “it factor” that can make a difference in the culture. But I also think there are other guys too.

The X factor for this culture is McCarthy. To me the HC sets the tone for the team. If he’s setting the proper tone for culture, the team can line up behind that. It remains to be seen if Big Mac has that capability or if the Jones family micromanagement torpedoes everything in the end. I guess we will find out.
 

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The success of this year’s Cowboys team once again hangs in the balance. Will they be mentally tough enough to overcome their soft culture?

This is the ultimate challenge every year for this franchise- can the team overcome the built in softness and excuses that the Jones Family have made for their own ineptness?

What do I mean by that? When the owner and GM allows himself and his kids to remain in total control of football operations with the exact same level of power and involvement after a quarter century of mediocrity, it’s one big soft excuse that’s just baked into the culture here. They never hold themselves accountable for failure to win like 30 other NFL franchises do.

So….The only way out of it is for our players and coaches to rise above the owner and his family to excel. It’s a tough thing to do when those at the top are themselves living one big excuse after another without even an ounce of personal accountability for their own mistakes. Jerry’s a great businessman and entrepreneur. Hall of fame great. But his football management skills speak for themselves the last 25 years.

This team must find a way to overcome this soft “Jones culture” or history will repeat itself again. I believe this team can do it. But only time will tell.


Everything just goes back to our offensive line imposing their will on teams and creative offensive playcalls that scheme guys open.
 

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Everything just goes back to our offensive line imposing their will on teams and creative offensive playcalls that scheme guys open.
I don’t disagree with your points here about the OL, scheme, etc. But it’s more than that. There’s something deeply embedded in this culture that short circuits itself when the adversity hits. This team has been soft for too long. Not too late to turn it around but NOW is the time.
 

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We're 7-4 and have a bunch of injured players. People acting like the season's over.
 

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The success of this year’s Cowboys team once again hangs in the balance. Will they be mentally tough enough to overcome their soft culture?

This is the ultimate challenge every year for this franchise- can the team overcome the built in softness and excuses that the Jones Family have made for their own ineptness?

What do I mean by that? When the owner and GM allows himself and his kids to remain in total control of football operations with the exact same level of power and involvement after a quarter century of mediocrity, it’s one big soft excuse that’s just baked into the culture here. They never hold themselves accountable for failure to win like 30 other NFL franchises do.

So….The only way out of it is for our players and coaches to rise above the owner and his family to excel. It’s a tough thing to do when those at the top are themselves living one big excuse after another without even an ounce of personal accountability for their own mistakes. Jerry’s a great businessman and entrepreneur. Hall of fame great. But his football management skills speak for themselves the last 25 years.

This team must find a way to overcome this soft “Jones culture” or history will repeat itself again. I believe this team can do it. But only time will tell.

cant “rise above” it because our owner is also the GM and he picks the coaches and has a hand in picking the players and is intimately involved in team culture since he is very hands on

And his equally ignorant spawn is waiting in the wings

There is no escape from the Jones stench
 

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Thats why I've been saying for YEARS - we need that counter-weight at the Head coaching position - need a strong old school type.
The team is weak minded and its been shown to us for many many seasons.

Whats the one thing that the 3 "best" coaches of this franchise (Landry-Jimmy-Bill) have in common...


Need an old school coach?? how bout old school players? Those days are GONE. Bill Parcells style, Jimmy Johnsons style wouldnt fly with today's players, or todays SOCIETY.

College players that get pushed at all leave the school. Or worse yet, those players go complain to their student advocate that they are being abused by the coach, and investigation is opened and the coach is fired.

stop longing for the days of old.... as one Rick Petino once said, "Larry Bird is not walking through that door." For you youngens... look it up.
 

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This x 1000! The reason Jimmy was so good here was he was the exact opposite of Jerry and brought a toughness that balanced this organization. Since Jimmy left, Jerry has always like having coaches that didn’t threaten him.

I thought so until he brought Coach Parcells in.......he’s no cream puff
 

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Need an old school coach?? how bout old school players? Those days are GONE. Bill Parcells style, Jimmy Johnsons style wouldnt fly with today's players, or todays SOCIETY.

College players that get pushed at all leave the school. Or worse yet, those players go complain to their student advocate that they are being abused by the coach, and investigation is opened and the coach is fired.

stop longing for the days of old.... as one Rick Petino once said, "Larry Bird is not walking through that door." For you youngens... look it up.
Meh, they been sayin that for YEARS but Tom Coughlin won 2 Super Bowls...

Mind you its not about yelling and having the guys run laps like Judge in NY...its about building football players and have them play beyond themselves.

Now yes there are more than one way to skin a cat, like having a great X and O guy but in our case with Jerry and his "everyone is a superstar" ways imo we need a strong hand.

Oh and BTW Bill Belichick says hello.
 

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Jethro said the Calvary was coming. Lol
Man if only I could do photo shop. I’d be dangerous.
Sure miss Don and his talents.
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Huh? He completely turned the franchise around.

I was addressing and refuting the OP saying that Jerry never brought in a coach other than Johnson that would challenge his authority and the soft culture that exists here
 

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The success of this year’s Cowboys team once again hangs in the balance. Will they be mentally tough enough to overcome their soft culture?

This is the ultimate challenge every year for this franchise- can the team overcome the built in softness and excuses that the Jones Family have made for their own ineptness?

What do I mean by that? When the owner and GM allows himself and his kids to remain in total control of football operations with the exact same level of power and involvement after a quarter century of mediocrity, it’s one big soft excuse that’s just baked into the culture here. They never hold themselves accountable for failure to win like 30 other NFL franchises do.

So….The only way out of it is for our players and coaches to rise above the owner and his family to excel. It’s a tough thing to do when those at the top are themselves living one big excuse after another without even an ounce of personal accountability for their own mistakes. Jerry’s a great businessman and entrepreneur. Hall of fame great. But his football management skills speak for themselves the last 25 years.

This team must find a way to overcome this soft “Jones culture” or history will repeat itself again. I believe this team can do it. But only time will tell.
It all starts with the people Jerry surrounds himself with. When you start to surround yourself with questionable character people...it's going to come out eventually. You can't hide character. Good example...Zeke....not in a million years would I have built a franchise around him...but not only did Jerry get dupped...into drafting him....he turned around and gave him a ton of money. As they say...you reap what to sow.
 

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The fact that Jerry kept Garrett around for 10 years and allow Garrett to pull that "I'm not leaving. Give me another chance" shenanigans when they let him go should tell you all you need to know about how Jerry operates.

Jerry will say winning another Championship is the most important thing but he sure doesn't run the franchise that way.
 

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What do I mean by that? When the owner and GM allows himself and his kids to remain in total control of football operations with the exact same level of power and involvement after a quarter century of mediocrity, it’s one big soft excuse that’s just baked into the culture here. They never hold themselves accountable for failure to win like 30 other NFL franchises do.

The Joneses haven't failed. They've built the most valuable sports entertainment franchise on the planet for around 5 years running. That's winning. They're businessmen. Not football players. Your purposes as a fan are not theirs as businessmen.

Remember Proximo in Gladiator?
"But as for me? I am an entertainer."

That's Jerry. That's the Joneses. They are professional entertainers. They're the best in sports entertainment. They're winning. If you want to psychoanalyze them, you need to start with that reality.
 

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It all starts with the people Jerry surrounds himself with. When you start to surround yourself with questionable character people...it's going to come out eventually. You can't hide character. Good example...Zeke....not in a million years would I have built a franchise around him...but not only did Jerry get dupped...into drafting him....he turned around and gave him a ton of money. As they say...you reap what to sow.
Give me a break. Zeke got in trouble as a 21 year old kid doing 21 year old kid stuff had he been on the Bengals, he wouldnt even have been in trouble.

Since then, what trouble has Zeke been in? How many games has Zeke missed? How many RBs have outproduced him since he came in the league? Who is a better blocker? need proof? Go rewatch the season opener this year and tell me Zeke doesnt help this team in many ways.

And jerry built this team around Zeke? Really?
 

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The success of this year’s Cowboys team once again hangs in the balance. Will they be mentally tough enough to overcome their soft culture?

This is the ultimate challenge every year for this franchise- can the team overcome the built in softness and excuses that the Jones Family have made for their own ineptness?

What do I mean by that? When the owner and GM allows himself and his kids to remain in total control of football operations with the exact same level of power and involvement after a quarter century of mediocrity, it’s one big soft excuse that’s just baked into the culture here. They never hold themselves accountable for failure to win like 30 other NFL franchises do.

So….The only way out of it is for our players and coaches to rise above the owner and his family to excel. It’s a tough thing to do when those at the top are themselves living one big excuse after another without even an ounce of personal accountability for their own mistakes. Jerry’s a great businessman and entrepreneur. Hall of fame great. But his football management skills speak for themselves the last 25 years.

This team must find a way to overcome this soft “Jones culture” or history will repeat itself again. I believe this team can do it. But only time will tell.

There are lame excuses and legitimate ones. Like losing 5 starters on D and a handful of pro bowlers on offense all at the same time. When those big mass injuries directly line up with your losing streak. Its easy to figure out.
 

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That's what I've been saying. The excuse culture on the boards is huge. I doubt that's the case in the locker room though. They know they'll have to overcome ref decisions one way or the other. Primary goal should be getting the run game back to that 6-1 level and the o line has to give Dak a little bit more time.

Edit: I do see a little problem with our remaining schedule though. Even if we do win most of those games we have proven nothing. Come play off time and teams like GB or TB knockin on the door (or we have to knock on theirs) hopefully our kinda weak schedule hasn't hurt their self awareness. We have to beat the Cardinals no matter what.
the stupid thing is we waited way too long to address this, should have been depressed after denver. Now we’re banking on getting the run game going with a banged up zeke and potential, wild card matchup, rotating offensive line - puts too much pressure on pollard and us turning one dimensional. Looking at zeke last week i would have sat him in the half and saved face for the press conference and say hes hurt
 
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