The Truth seems to be really hard for people to understand and/or accept

[cmoney23]

In our current day and age, the Truth seems to be really hard for people to understand and/or accept. I'd like to share with you some truth.

Football is a team game. Some call it the ultimate team game. The media and internet 'experts' try to oversimplify it and tell you that it's the QB... But it's not on him individually. It is one of the most important positions but it's not the key metric to team success. Fantasy football has also helped perpetuate this belief.

I'll give you a couple of examples:
Aaron Rodgers is largely believed to be one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game. He has ONE super bowl on his resume with a lot of playoff failures.
Patrick Mahomes. Often considered the next coming of football Jesus... has struggled mightily when things aren't perfect around him, including the last SuperBowl and an ~8 game stretch this season where the Chiefs had to go way back to the basics and sort of 'reset' their offense around running the ball and fundamentals.
Justin Herbert. Another second coming... missed the playoffs once again.

You might read that and think I'm now blaming those QBs for a lack of success. I'm not. They are examples of GREAT QBs in different stages of their careers that are struggling or have struggled.

The Chiefs got going because the DEFENSE became dominant and they committed to running the ball. Green Bay's big coaching change really just was a coach that committed to the run game. Look at the Rams. They run the ball they win. Stafford had 8 passes at half vs the Cards.

The truth is... Dak is a top 10 QB in this league. The team failed to execute (penalties). The coaches failed to develop consistent game plans that WON football games. They failed to rest injured players and exploit advantages The FO failed to address key position groups. And, at times, Dak failed too. But it's the team.

 

[BermyStar]

Well siad. Unortunately, people are allowed to make up their own versions of reality and we're all insensitive if we don't go along with it...I miss the 90s

 

[CATCH17]

Stop comparing Dak to QBs who have won things.

It’s only a team sport when the QB isn’t that good.

The teams with the best QBs win more times than not.

Joe Burrow went to one of the worst organizations in not only football but all of sports and he’s 1 game away from a AFC title game behind one of the worst Olines in football.

It’s a QB driven league and it’s not an accident our guy has 1 playoff wildcard win in 6 seasons. He’s just not that good.

 

[Haimerej]

Yes, it's a team game.

But every team game has a pivotal position. You need a good pitcher to be a good baseball team. You need a good goalie in hockey. You need someone who can run point in basketball.

Sure, you can win some games without those things. But you won't do it consistently.

 

[DallasEast]

In our current day and age, the Truth seems to be really hard for people to understand and/or accept. I'd like to share with you some truth.

Football is a team game. Some call it the ultimate team game. The media and internet 'experts' try to oversimplify it and tell you that it's the QB... But it's not on him individually. It is one of the most important positions but it's not the key metric to team success. Fantasy football has also helped perpetuate this belief.

I'll give you a couple of examples:
Aaron Rodgers is largely believed to be one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game. He has ONE super bowl on his resume with a lot of playoff failures.
Patrick Mahomes. Often considered the next coming of football Jesus... has struggled mightily when things aren't perfect around him, including the last SuperBowl and an ~8 game stretch this season where the Chiefs had to go way back to the basics and sort of 'reset' their offense around running the ball and fundamentals.
Justin Herbert. Another second coming... missed the playoffs once again.

You might read that and think I'm now blaming those QBs for a lack of success. I'm not. They are examples of GREAT QBs in different stages of their careers that are struggling or have struggled.

The Chiefs got going because the DEFENSE became dominant and they committed to running the ball. Green Bay's big coaching change really just was a coach that committed to the run game. Look at the Rams. They run the ball they win. Stafford had 8 passes at half vs the Cards.

The truth is... Dak is a top 10 QB in this league. The team failed to execute (penalties). The coaches failed to develop consistent game plans that WON football games. They failed to rest injured players and exploit advantages The FO failed to address key position groups. And, at times, Dak failed too. But it's the team.

Good luck. Some members have ignored or denied football is a team game for nearly 20 years.

 

[JoeKing]

The truth... Dak needs a better supporting cast. Some QBs can do more with less. There is nothing wrong with preferring that guy over Dak.

 

[GMO415]

I think that's why MM has one more year to bring this team to an NFC championship game or else he's fired.

 

[Haimerej]

Good luck. Some members have ignored or denied football is a team game for nearly 20 years.

Nobody denies that. The only denial going on seems to be that Dak is good enough to win it all while taking an elite salary.

 

[movaughn88]

I think that's a very balanced and smart assessment.

On game planning...we have two players similar to (not as good as but close) to Deebo Samuel....their names are Ceedee Lamb and Tony Pollard. A good OC will make sure to get them the ball, not keep forcing middle-run stuffs with Zeke and all-vertical routes. A good OC tailors the game plan to the players who are making a difference. DC Quinn did that for the most part, especially mid-game adjustments. I didn't see that from Kellen after we started getting zone-covered to death.

I think we need some new position coaches and either Kellen goes to school or I wouldn't mind him getting poached.

Get rid of the players that cause penalties. Gregory can be a force, but a perfect example of a player who makes dumb mistakes at the worst time. I have argued for his cause before but think I have been wrong - I now hope he gets paid big to leave.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Stop comparing Dak to QBs who have won things.

It’s only a team sport when the QB isn’t that good.

The teams with the best QBs win more times than not.

Joe Burrow went to one of the worst organizations in not only football but all of sports and he’s 1 game away from a AFC title game behind one of the worst Olines in football.

It’s a QB driven league and it’s not an accident our guy has 1 playoff wildcard win in 6 seasons. He’s just not that good.

Pretty much nailed it. Dak and Kellen have been exposed and they seem unable to figure out how to adjust.

We are playing checkers while the rest of the league is playing chess.

 

[CATCH17]

Good luck. Some members have ignored or denied football is a team game for nearly 20 years.

It’s easy to ignore when Tom Brady hops over to a team who hasn’t won anything in a long time and goes right in and wins his 7th trophy.

It’s a QB sport. The salary cap has turned it into a parity league and if anything our roster was one of the better rosters in football this year.

Next year will be year 7 for Dak and he’s won nothing. Elite QBs really don’t go that long only having a single wildcard win. It’s actually pathetic all things considered.

 

[Playmaker3128]

I agree it’s on Moore. But dak playing poor is a huge issue. He has as much talent around him as any quarterback in football. When he’s taking up 40 mil a year it isn’t going to get any better.

Explain to me on 3rd and 5 from midfield… why is dak forcing the ball into the flat to a covered zeke? That’s just not a winning play.

 

[cmoney23]

Stop comparing Dak to QBs who have won things.

It’s only a team sport when the QB isn’t that good.

The teams with the best QBs win more times than not.

Joe Burrow went to one of the worst organizations in not only football but all of sports and he’s 1 game away from a AFC title game behind one of the worst Olines in football.

It’s a QB driven league and it’s not an accident our guy has 1 playoff wildcard win in 6 seasons. He’s just not that good.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

The Bengals also run the ball 26 times per game with one of the better RBs in the league. Burrow averaged 275 yards passing in their wins and 339 yards passing in their losses!!!

If you watched Bengals football, outside of the last two games of the year, they were winning on the legs of Mixon, not the arm of Burrow. Heck, even in the chiefs win... a lot of the yards Burrow put up was YAC from Chase.

Burrow is a good young QB, but that TEAM lead the way.

 

[cmoney23]

It’s easy to ignore when Tom Brady hops over to a team who hasn’t won anything in a long time and goes right in and wins his 7th trophy.

It’s a QB sport. The salary cap has turned it into a parity league and if anything our roster was one of the better rosters in football this year.

Next year will be year 7 for Dak and he’s won nothing. Elite QBs really don’t go that long only having a single wildcard win. It’s actually pathetic all things considered.

Easier to ignore the Patriots falling apart with him and getting beat by the Titans in the playoffs. Was he not good then? or did he go to a TEAM that was STACKED and that has kept his career going?

 

[Haimerej]

Easier to ignore the Patriots falling apart with him and getting beat by the Titans in the playoffs. Was he not good then? or did he go to a TEAM that was STACKED and that has kept his career going?

What about what happened to the Patriots when he left?

 

[CATCH17]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

The Bengals also run the ball 26 times per game with one of the better RBs in the league. Burrow averaged 275 yards passing in their wins and 339 yards passing in their losses!!!

If you watched Bengals football, outside of the last two games of the year, they were winning on the legs of Mixon, not the arm of Burrow. Heck, even in the chiefs win... a lot of the yards Burrow put up was YAC from Chase.

Burrow is a good young QB, but that TEAM lead the way.

HAHAHAHHA Burrow is still playing and Dak is at home watching him HAHAHAHAHA

 

[cmoney23]

I think that's a very balanced and smart assessment.

On game planning...we have two players similar to (not as good as but close) to Deebo Samuel....their names are Ceedee Lamb and Tony Pollard. A good OC will make sure to get them the ball, not keep forcing middle-run stuffs with Zeke and all-vertical routes. A good OC tailors the game plan to the players who are making a difference. DC Quinn did that for the most part, especially mid-game adjustments. I didn't see that from Kellen after we started getting zone-covered to death.

I think we need some new position coaches and either Kellen goes to school or I wouldn't mind him getting poached.

Get rid of the players that cause penalties. Gregory can be a force, but a perfect example of a player who makes dumb mistakes at the worst time. I have argued for his cause before but think I have been wrong - I now hope he gets paid big to leave.

I think I agree with Troy Aikman's assessment that he prefers scheme over match-up. Kellen doesn't feature his talent. KM is a great play designer and schemer. He has run some of the best-designed plays I've ever seen. He needs to develop the unscripted moments better. Take match-ups and dominate.

 

[RaZon]

Dak was constantly put in third and here comes the rush situations due to ANOTHER PENALTY, no way I blame Dak for this loss.

Dak is behind...

Rodgers
Brady
Mahomes
Wilson
Allen
Stafford

Do see Burrow and Herbert being more successful. So there he is around 9ish when it comes to QB's. We need .....well hell....smarter players. 14 penalties. OUCH!

McCarthy is no Jimmy or Landry either.

 

[cmoney23]

HAHAHAHHA Burrow is still playing and Dak is at home watching him HAHAHAHAHA

The Bengals are still playing and the Cowboys are at home.

 

[DallasEast]

Nobody denies that. The only denial going on seems to be that Dak is good enough to win it all while taking an elite salary.

Every game is a summation of what players and coaches do or do not do well or not well for four quarters. Every single post or thread title singling out one position as always the primary asset or liability in any game's outcome is a denial typed in black-and-white.