How are the 49ers so good with an overpaid, mediocre QB?

[Kingofholland]

Jimmy G has a higher cap hit than Dak this year.
He is 5-1 in his playoff career with 2 TD, 5 INT, 121 YDS/G and 70 passer rating.
Maybe Cowboy fans have supremely overrated the talent on this Dallas roster?

It comes down to coaching and discipline.. The Cowboys can win with Dak.

 

[stinkface]

Rodgers needed to do more but he’s also a Super Bowl winner, multiple time MVP, and has been deep into the playoffs several times.

Our guy makes more money and has never done squat.

rodgers is 37 years old. Who knows what Dak will be at that age if of course he isn't retired living on a beach somewhere.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Their QB produced zero TD's and beat an excellent Titans team... and are now in the AFC championship game. They are a vastly better team than us.

They stuffed Henry twice for no yards on a huge 3rd and 4th..but yeah they got "no talent" on that bengals team...Chase sucks also..I mean he is no CeeDee Lamb just ask CeeDee if you dont believe me.

 

[conner01]

That wasn’t the point. Just saying that they have had a lot of picks in the top 10. More than we have.

In the nfl you need to win or lose
Being middle of the pack as we have so often hurts you long term
Missing on taco was also huge
The bengals, browns are both built by being really bad before they got good

 

[stinkface]

Trench's baby. They San Fran have a 6 th round running back who had almost a 1,000 yards this year and he never played the first 7 games of the season. Our DE's ends are pretty close to San Frans, but the middle of their D line is 10 times better then ours.

 

[leeblair]

Jimmy G has a higher cap hit than Dak this year.
He is 5-1 in his playoff career with 2 TD, 5 INT, 121 YDS/G and 70 passer rating.
Maybe Cowboy fans have supremely overrated the talent on this Dallas roster?

You're too caught up in the stats.
Jimmy Garappolo is not mediocre. He is accurate and delivers when it matters.
His stats are misleading because of the offense the 49'ers run and because they haven't always had the best team.
But unlike Dak, he produces.

 

[Brax]

That wasn’t the point. Just saying that they have had a lot of picks in the top 10. More than we have.

You have to hit in first and seconds picks, not easy to do but they also play in a lot harder div and I don't remember them being that bad the last 5 years or so.

 

[CATCH17]

rodgers is 37 years old. Who knows what Dak will be at that age if of course he isn't retired living on a beach somewhere.

Most QBs get the success early.

 

[khiladi]

You're too caught up in the stats.
Jimmy Garappolo is not mediocre. He is accurate and delivers when it matters.
His stats are misleading because of the offense the 49'ers run and because they haven't always had the best team.
But unlike Dak, he produces.

His flaws are his random INT that makes you scratch your head, but he also had a bad thumb. That 1 INT to Brown made our game look closer than it ever was, but he completely outplayed Dak and it wasn’t close. He’s resilient and he makes the throws when needed.

And he did all this knowing he was essentially going to be traded in the off-season.

 

[The Natural]

Like jimmy g or Rodgers did? Lol

Are you a Cowboys fan?

 

[Bigdog]

In the nfl you need to win or lose
Being middle of the pack as we have so often hurts you long term
Missing on taco was also huge
The bengals, browns are both built by being really bad before they got good

Yup. If your middle of the pack for years not going to get the premier picks

 

[Flamma]

Hmmm… If that’s right then they shouldn’t have paid their QB 40 million.

If you can win with sucky QBs like Jimmy G then we should use the money to build a team and not spend it on a do nothing QB.

Clearly you can build a roster to make up for a lesser QB. The problem is doing it. It's harder now with a cap because everyone has roughly the same money. But it can be done. Still, coaching and gameplan matter too.

 

[CATCH17]

Clearly you can build a roster to make up for a lesser QB. The problem is doing it. It's harder now with a cap because everyone has roughly the same money. But it can be done. Still, coaching and gameplan matter too.

Its going to be hard to overcome the Dak deal. Especially with the Jones’s who don’t make moves.

 

[Flamma]

Its going to be hard to overcome the Dak deal. Especially with the Jones’s who don’t make moves.

Yes. They have to build a better team to compete with teams that have better QBs. Or have coaches that can out smart other coaches.

They have 2 years to do that while Dak's cap hit is consistent with his talent level. And we just wasted one of those years. So 1 left.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

It comes down to the OC .

Offense is coordinated by a person .

 

[jwooten15]

I’m learning more and more that elite coaching can compensate for a lot of deficiencies on the field. But for us, we’ve been stuck with mediocre and gadget offensive coaches for 25 years

 

[atlantacowboy]

Jimmy G has a higher cap hit than Dak this year.
He is 5-1 in his playoff career with 2 TD, 5 INT, 121 YDS/G and 70 passer rating.
Maybe Cowboy fans have supremely overrated the talent on this Dallas roster?

Very simple. They aren't built to rely on the QB. They rely on defense and a run game. All they need from Jimmy G is to throw enough to keep the defense honest. He doesn't have flashy numbers b/c he's not throwing it 40 times a game. He doesn't have to.

 

[stinkface]

The San Fran model of running it 35 to 40 times per game works everywhere, if you have the right folks up front and some good backs. We seem to be lacking up front biggllyright now. That needs to be a focus this off season. Well, it should be anyway. Pretty simplistic really.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Coaching. Kyle Shahanan and Sean McVay can take non-elite QBs to the Super Bowl like Garoppolo and Goff. It's not going to be as simple as upgrading the OL or RB - we had a great running game from 2014-2017 and still did not go far in the playoffs. It takes a great offensive coach who can install a system

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not about the QB???

After today, your remaining QBs in the AFC will be Joe B, Patrick Mahomes/Josh Allen. Could it be argued those are the three best young QBs in the AFC???
IN the NFC you have Jimmy avg G and Brady/Stafford. out of those 6 teams, 4 of the 6 are what I would put into the elite category, stafford is a nothc below that. So 66% of the remaining qbs are elite.....and by the time you are at the SB, you will likely have the remaining 2 qbs in the elite category.

Ive gone over this enough, but it is simple. In the last 20 or so years 80% of the SB winning team has an ELITE HOF level QB. FACT, not opinion, but you keep telling yourself it aint about the QB.

Dont point to one game, or one SB winner as your "Proof." Just think about what 80% means. It means that 20% of the time, the team wont have an elite level QB... and 20% isnt close to enough to make your point of it not being about the QB.

QB's are meaningless without the proper team around them.

Garrappolo beating Rogers was the prefect example. Its also why Rogers has only won ONE SB in his lifetime.

QB's are the most important position but those of you that think its all about the QB dont understand football.