The burst/twitch of our current receivers

[Mannix]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends. I guarantee that Booger and Chuckles will go out and resign Gallup and hold onto Cooper....we can do better....but don't trust these two to do so.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I'm not sure they are an overrated bunch, although its time to admit that having 2-3 above average receivers is the norm these days, not this huge advantage that Cowboys fans think we have. Lamb is or at least profiles as the type of player you are talking about, Wilson showed some promise to be that explosive type of player...although Wilson i', very hesitant to count on as anything but my 4th receiver. Cooper is just a different animal, but an elite level route runner who can create space. Needs time to let his route develop to really be effective though. Gallup is the interesting one to me that I would argue may be truly overrated. Not that I think hes a bad receiver, but seems to be a bit of a one trick pony to me. No doubt he is the guy I want on the receiving end of one of Daks deep balls, but aside from that does he offer a ton of value? Not sure.

 

[ondaedg]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends.

Ya after watching these other WRs I’ve thought the same thing. Ceedee is shifty but he’s not going to blow past defenders like Jamaar or Tyreek. Nor do any of our WRs have the physicality of Deebo Samuel. And when you look at the separation stats we’re pretty putrid other than Dalton. And Cedric Wilson looks like he’s going to fall over trying to make a cut sometimes.

 

[ThatJerryKid]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends. I guarantee that Booger and Chuckles will go out and resign Gallup and hold onto Cooper....we can do better....but don't trust these two to do so.

Don’t worry. Jerry and Stephen have a plan.

 

[Reality]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends. I guarantee that Booger and Chuckles will go out and resign Gallup and hold onto Cooper....we can do better....but don't trust these two to do so.

I think some of the problem is something I have been complaining about since Garrett was here, which is those constant comeback routes. I do not mind comeback routes, but they run them so often and that helps the defensive backs so much both in defending the ball as well as tackling.

Teams like the Chiefs, Bengals, Rams, Packers, etc. have offenses that attack vertically. Again, vertically does not always mean 20+ yards down the field, but rather throwing and completing passes with the receiver headed toward the endzone either directly or via slant.

When you are known for attacking vertically, it makes the defensive backs more hesitant to jump comeback routes which means those few times you call a comeback route, your receiver not only has a few yards of buffer between himself and the defender, he also has a great chance to get several yards after the catch or possibly break for a long run.

 

[ondaedg]

I'm not sure they are an overrated bunch, although its time to admit that having 2-3 above average receivers is the norm these days, not this huge advantage that Cowboys fans think we have. Lamb is or at least profiles as the type of player you are talking about, Wilson showed some promise to be that explosive type of player...although Wilson i', very hesitant to count on as anything but my 4th receiver. Cooper is just a different animal, but an elite level route runner who can create space. Needs time to let his route develop to really be effective though. Gallup is the interesting one to me that I would argue may be truly overrated. Not that I think hes a bad receiver, but seems to be a bit of a one trick pony to me. No doubt he is the guy I want on the receiving end of one of Daks deep balls, but aside from that does he offer a ton of value? Not sure.

Ya some here think we have the best receiving group in the NFL but I’m not even sure we’re in the top 5. The Bucs had Gronk, Evans, Antonio Brown, Godwin. Rams have Kupp and Odell. Bengals have Chase, Higgins and Boyd. Then there’s the Chiefs with Tyreek and Kelce. List goes on and on.

 

[Doomsday101]

There is nothing wrong with the Dallas WR, most who cover the games and actually have a clue have said as much about the Dallas WR. Cowboys lost vs 49ers so now we should just ditch all players really some of this BS is way over the top.

 

[Reality]

There is nothing wrong with the Dallas WR, most who cover the games and actually have a clue have said as much about the Dallas WR. Cowboys lost vs 49ers so now we should just ditch all players really some of this BS is way over the top.

I have seen several videos of plays away from the targeted receiver (before the ball was thrown), and I am shocked at how wide open one of the receivers is who did not get the ball.

I am not saying that to bash Dak because I do not know if he is being told to throw specifically to the targeted receiver, but someone, whether Dak, Moore, McCarthy, etc., is definitely to blame for the large number of times open receivers have not gotten the ball thrown their way.

 

[charron]

Lamb is over rated. Cooper is under rated and under used here. Scheme/ route concepts are an issue here at times more than anything else.

 

[Pokefan1]

Tired of seeing these worthless wide receiver screens that are tackled immediately for losses.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have seen several videos of plays away from the targeted receiver (before the ball was thrown), and I am shocked at how wide open one of the receivers is who did not get the ball.

I am not saying that to bash Dak because I do not know if he is being told to throw to throw specifically to the targeted receiver, but someone, whether Dak, Moore, McCarthy, etc., is definitely to blame for the large number of times open receivers have not gotten the ball thrown their way.

I was listening to Aikman and tend to agree that sometimes teams get locked so much into the scheme they are trying to run that they tend to overlook obvious 1 on 1 situation where you rely on your man beating their man. In the 9ers game we had those situation and did not capitalize on them. We also could not block leading to 5 sacks and several more pressures, we also had big plays called back because of foolish penalties. In games vs top teams you can't afford those mistakes because the quality of the team you are facing is not going to allow it. GB managed 1 TD vs the same 9ers team after that could not do squat for the rest of the day. Dallas needed to play a better overall game and they did not do it.

 

[quickccc]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends. I guarantee that Booger and Chuckles will go out and resign Gallup and hold onto Cooper....we can do better....but don't trust these two to do so.

- Has anyone taken notice to how Kupp is schemed so well by Rams to get open ?
The way they line him up and move him around,.... how often they move him around to various positions from slot to outside - makes it even tougher to double him and bracket him ?
And they don't shy away from trying to get him the ball - maybe to a fault.

- Kupp isn’t slow, he’s more field fast and his play speed makes him appear faster than what he 40 times - but he’s not a blazer that can str8 line up sprint right by you
with pure speed like a Javar Chase can.
i always Imagine him a bigger, lengthier Cole Beasley that can line up both wide outside as well as the slot. But Kupp affects the entire field far more than the current Beasley does

 

[fivetwos]

Watching the last two weeks, I was AMAZED how many times a WR for (name the team) caught a horizontal pass out wide....sometimes at a complete stop....and then had enough burst to pick up a quick 7-8 yards before tackled....I was shocked. We simply do not have this type of receiver...especially when given that our QB cannot hit them on the right side of their body. I think we are severely over rating out current bunch....I kind of always believed this, but man was it confirmed over the past two weekends. I guarantee that Booger and Chuckles will go out and resign Gallup and hold onto Cooper....we can do better....but don't trust these two to do so.

I know what you mean.

Maybe its just about wanting those extra few yards to try to win.

When you're a Dallas Cowboy, you've already won without actually winning a thing.

No need to make that effort. Can't get hurt.

 

[stilltheguru]

We can't block for wr screens.

 

[Mannix]

I know what you mean.

Maybe its just about wanting those extra few yards to try to win.

When you're a Dallas Cowboy, you've already won without actually winning a thing.

No need to make that effort. Can't get hurt.

Thank you....it is that too!!!

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Don’t worry. Jerry and Stephen have a plan.

LOL, 26 years and counting waiting on this plan.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Don’t worry. Jerry and Stephen have a plan.

I think MM has that top priority for the 2023 season....2022 he will be having them work on elimination of penalties.

 

[The Natural]

Receivers aren't the problem here. Any elite QB/coordinator pairing would step in and excel with this group.

 

[Mr_437]

True, Dallas doesn't draft super fast (4.3) WRs, and they totally should now to add vertical pressure to the defense. A speedy slot WR n RB3 would add a dynamic to an offense that can go stale.

 

[Frosty]

There is nothing wrong with the Dallas WR, most who cover the games and actually have a clue have said as much about the Dallas WR. Cowboys lost vs 49ers so now we should just ditch all players really some of this BS is way over the top.

Agree with what you are saying..but the Cowboys struggle against good teams...for heavens sake the Offense practically gets shut down against teams like the Cardinals, 49ers etc... Only time the offense looks good is when the play the NFC east teams.