Dak’s Own Words

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Dak just doesn’t trust his arm. He’s too turnover adverse. If the receiver is open he throws it. He doesn’t trust himself to throw the 50/50, back shoulder and tight window throws unless it’s too late. That’s why you see a different Dak in the fourth quarter when they are down. He has no choice but to try those types of throws.

I think you nailed it. Dak was really aggressive early in the season, trying throws that were risky, tight windows, anticipating receivers etc. As the year went along, he went into a shell and stopped trying difficult throws. It was perplexing, cause it was a return to the type of play from his second season.

Hope this regression isn't permanent, but you gotta know why it happened in the first place before you can confidently project a rebound
 

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This has been posted before. I guess some feel the need to rehash Dak hate over and over and over. Need to keep that front page full of hate. :facepalm:
 

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The Cowboys need to get rid of Moore, analyze what made them successful on offense and do everything to regain the production that provided that success. Very simply, they are most successful when they can grind out 100+ yards/game on the ground. Need to immediately improve (production and availability) on the left side and the C position. I would start out by putting Steele back at RT and let Collins compete for the LG position. Need to churn that RB stable.

There seems to be too much politicking going on is Dallas with personnel decisions. That has to end. The best players should be on the field regardless of draft status or salary. Dak will be much more effective if opposing defenses have to respect the Cowboys running game.
 

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Dak just doesn’t trust his arm. He’s too turnover adverse. If the receiver is open he throws it. He doesn’t trust himself to throw the 50/50, back shoulder and tight window throws unless it’s too late. That’s why you see a different Dak in the fourth quarter when they are down. He has no choice but to try those types of throws.
Ok. So. Explain the Dak from weeks 1-7. Why can no one do that?
 

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He was what he's always been... A guy who hit his ceiling his rookie year and never improved. He's just average.
But being paid like he's elite (which unfortunately is how the Quarterback market is paid)… Is it his fault? No... Until we get an OC that knows what he's doing and we get our Oline fixed, nothing is going to change.

Changes aren't going to be made overnight. My thoughts are (because we have to pay Dak as he just signed restructured his contract), let him play out his contract (without anymore restructuring) then get rid of him as we know his ceiling isn't going to be any higher than it already is. get rid of KM and bring in an OC that knows how to scheme, get that O'line fixed, then draft a QB. With the O'line, the OC problem being solved, you can see fairly how the rookie QB works out and at that time (once the rookie contract is up) decide at that time whether to sign...
 

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For all the deniers that paste statistics without context to claim Dak wasn’t struggling or just lazily attribute his struggles directly to his calf injury to excuse his play…

From NFL.com

Dak's play sunk after a Week 6 calf injury, but his struggles ran deeper than the injury. "I wouldn't say it lingered as long as people gave me the excuse of it," Prescott said on The Rich Eisen Show during Super Bowl week. "I went through a period of time during the season where I just didn't play my best ball."
Dak sucks.

Confirmed by Dak himself.
 

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Ok. So. Explain the Dak from weeks 1-7. Why can no one do that?
Because the injuries started piling on at the beginning of week 8 (on the O'line) and never fully recovered. Let's face it, our backups are backups for a reason.... Throw crappy backups and injuries together and you get disaster... Add in the Dak factor that he sinks under pressure and here we are...
 

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Because the injuries started piling on at the beginning of week 8 (on the O'line) and never fully recovered. Let's face it, our backups are backups for a reason.... Throw crappy backups and injuries together and you get disaster... Add in the Dak factor that he sinks under pressure and here we are...
LOL. SO injuries piled up and thats why Dak regressed? But its because Dak sucks? My argument is if Dak can play the way he did from weeks 1-8 he can certainly do it again. Its on the coaches to keep him accountable and consistent. The offense as a whole went into a shell after the Denver game. No more motion, no more anything. It was like the ghost of Jason Garrett took the reigns after week 8
 

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It's accurate to say that the entire offense including players and coaches all sucked it up. The obsession to trash one player on this forum is lazy and tries to escape debate. There are "fans" here actually hopping the QB doesn't succeed.
 

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LOL. SO injuries piled up and thats why Dak regressed? But its because Dak sucks? My argument is if Dak can play the way he did from weeks 1-8 he can certainly do it again. Its on the coaches to keep him accountable and consistent. The offense as a whole went into a shell after the Denver game. No more motion, no more anything. It was like the ghost of Jason Garrett took the reigns after week 8


It is my opinion that Dak can play well enough to win.

I am unsure if he can will the team to win with adversity. I don;t mean he has to have all-stars around him. I just don;t think he makes other players better, or is any great threat to beat a team by his own will power and risk. If that makes any sense?
 

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It's accurate to say that the entire offense including players and coaches all sucked it up. The obsession to trash one player on this forum is lazy and tries to escape debate. There are "fans" here actually hopping the QB doesn't succeed.


So...in order to have a dak discussion, we have to trash the other players FIRST...then we can move on to Dak debates?
 

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We stupidly rode Zeke on his torn PCL over the more productive RB in Pollard.

Nobody talks about how anemic our run game was vs the 49ers or the FOURTEEN penalties that crippled us all game.

Fix THOSE problems and Dak is back to playing great football. Team sport.

Agree with all your points, but Dak has to beat the coverages that are causing indecision for him. All the above points have to improve if Dallas wants to take another step.
 

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LOL. SO injuries piled up and thats why Dak regressed? But its because Dak sucks? My argument is if Dak can play the way he did from weeks 1-8 he can certainly do it again. Its on the coaches to keep him accountable and consistent. The offense as a whole went into a shell after the Denver game. No more motion, no more anything. It was like the ghost of Jason Garrett took the reigns after week 8
Dak have NEVER in his 6 season played as good as he did those first 6 games.

He has never played that well before and he never played that well after.

So you now believe, by that 6 game sample size 6 seasons into his career, that is who Dak really is? You're just going to ignore the overwhelming proof that says those 6 games are the outlier? If you were a scientist doing an experiment you'd remove that 6 game stretch to get a more accurate result.

Dak is something in-between those first 6 games and those last 12 game. If you look at his first 6 season you will see that Dak is MUCH MUCH closer to those last 12 games than he is those first 6 games. Ya know? Shrinking in big games, playing horrible against good competition, and doing nothing without the run game carrying him. That's Dak. That's always been Dak.

Come on. You're better than that.
 

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Some people just need to face the fact that Dak is a bus driver. And that includes our very own front office. If the guy needs one hundred yards from the RB's to win, then he's a bus driver. So they should build this team up with the personal that can get 100 yards rushing per game. That means, a better offensive line, with better blocking WR's and TE's. If we want Dak to look like a 40 million dollar QB, then get bigger and stronger to run the ball more effectively.


It's not rocket science.
 

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Some people just need to face the fact that Dak is a bus driver. And that includes our very own front office. If the guy needs one hundred yards from the RB's to win, then he's a bus driver. So they should build this team up with the personal that can get 100 yards rushing per game. That means, a better offensive line, with better blocking WR's and TE's. If we want Dak to look like a 40 million dollar QB, then get bigger and stronger to run the ball more effectively.


It's not rocket science.
We only won 1 game last year where we didn't have 100 yards rushing.

Cooper Rush was the QB.
 

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He was struggling, but I still believe it had to do with the calf injury. His play before the injury and after the injury were starkly different. Sure, some of it may have been because of defensive adjustments, but he also just simply missed throws he was making before the injury.

I don't give him any leeway for the calf injury. Quarterbacks play injured. No way a sore calf on the quarterback is shutting a team down for weeks. Skipping the bad teams along the way.
 

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That’s not going to happen, although many at least on this board would love to see him stink so they can continue to trash him.

I don't get the trashing. He's a halfway decent quarterback. My guess is when anyone even slightly criticizes him, they're attacked. So that's how people fight back. But he's overpaid. He's not Patrick Mahomes. The only reason he's being paid what he's being paid is because of a lack of a better option. Like paying 80,000 for a Camaro because besides that, your alternative is a bicycle.
 

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So...in order to have a dak discussion, we have to trash the other players FIRST...then we can move on to Dak debates?
There's no reason to twist what I said, the entire idea is illustrated with my first sentence.
 
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