Why are we not all in right now?

[fivetwos]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

 

[Ken]

*20 million

Other than that, I agree... let's go all in. For someone who would give anything for another super bowl before he croaks...he certainly is not approaching it with any sense of urgency.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

You answered your own question. LA, Green Bay and Tampa are all in right now and we don’t stand a chance against any of those teams.

Probably best to try to time our championship window in line with those teams starting to rebuild.

 

[charron]

Last year was a better year to go all in. But you just never know and we are in a weak division. They want to build a good team but they aren't concerned with actually building a team to compete for a SB. We had a surprisingly good team with a few holes playing well for most of last year, just needed a little help and maybe just maybe we beat San Fran then who knows. But they failed to do anything and used the cap and future as an excuse.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

We are!!

Give it time. We just lost Gregory in a surprise betrayal by Gregory.

We are increasing CAP room for a reason.

 

[DandyDon1722]

This assumes that players actually want to sign here. It takes two to tangle and players are increasingly considering QB's who can win Super Bowls. Don't expect Vaughn Miller or Bobby Wagner to be signing with teams who they do not consider contenders. I think we are right on the edge of that but certainly not at the top.

 

[erod]

They paid an average QB like he's Tom Brady.

And privately, they know that was a mistake. Dak isn't capable of bigtime playoff football.

They need to start over and rebuild, but that doesn't sell jerseys or tickets.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

I tend agree. we have a three year window and you are either all in or just working to be average. we need to fix the OL...no more "we like our guys" and we need some pass rushers and LBs as both positions are thin...

we went 12-5, lost gregory and cooper and wilson, three key players. your rival in the division has 3 first round picks and more cap room than you....what are we waiting for...christmas!!!

 

[Whyjerry]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

It’s a good point. The aging OL. Dumb Zeke. Should be all in.

 

[Doomsday]

They aren't even dipping the toes in the water, let alone going all-in.

Still early though, let's see how it plays out.

 

[bb721]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

pushs his 90’s? Jerry is 79

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

You go "all-in" when you're 90% there, QB in place, solid OL and DL, and you just need to sprinkle in some game changers. We're not even close to that,,,

 

[Bobhaze]

*20 million

Other than that, I agree... let's go all in. For someone who would give anything for another super bowl before he croaks...he certainly is not approaching it with any sense of urgency.

Because he’s not really all in.

 

[conner01]

What is all in?
Let’s see the plan
Who would you have kept and who would you sign with numbers
A plan is just statements, it’s actual players and numbers

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Real free agency hasn't even started, and people are lamenting what is going on.

We have lost Cooper, and now Gregory. We lost Conner WIlliams....the horror!!!!! We lost Cedric Wilson.

We have signed Hooker, and Schultz, and re did Lawrence (who is our best DL by far), resigned Gallup and Noah Brown.

Gregory's loss will hurt some....but come on...his best season and he got six sacks. Throw in his injuries and personal demons, and is that really a guy you want to pay a lot of money to and count on? Let's just see whether we add someone that can be a replacement for him. We were willing to spend the money on him, we should be willing to offer similar money to another guy. I mean, some had Gregory as the best edge guy in free agency....with Chandler Jones, Von Miller and Zadarius Smith behind him. Wouldn't one of those guys be just as good, or maybe even better?

Cooper was more style than substance. He wasn't a game changer in the way Davante Adams is. Or about 10 other top notch receivers. He is good, and it won't be easy to replace his production...but you have to hope that Lamb steps up, that Gallup comes back healthy, and that we draft another WR in a stacked group. I'd still like to see them resign Malik Turner, he showed a little something when he got a chance.

Conner WIlliams for 7m a year? Glad someone else is taking that bite. That could very well be a nice comp pick for next year. Gregory's deal likely is worth a 4th or even a 3rd. I have no problem if we sign a guy that cancels the comp pick, I'd welcome it.

Our holes a year ago were easy to find. We still were soft in the middle against the run. Brown is still a corner that teams pick on...people said he played well and it was only one game that he got roasted. Rewatched the Bucs game and it was brutal how much Brady burnt him. LG was a weakness as was C. McGovern is similar to what we got from Williams. We could likely improve the spot with an early round pick. Wouldn't mind seeing a vet added somewhere along the line. Who know what ends up happening with Lael Collins. THey should move him to LG (been saying this since he went out last year) and put Steele at RT. I think that line is better than what we put out there a year ago and if we draft a guy early we should have some depth. Farniok, Ball, Alarcon and a few others will batter it out for the reserves.

The one guy we had that we need to resign is Kearse. He was the glue on the defense and is more valuable to us than he is to other teams. Hoping we get him redone.

A new K that isn't a head case will make a difference....Zeurlein lost multiple games for us.

Just need to give them a chance and see how things unfold. I had been saying all along that we had plenty of moves to generate cap space. They have done several of them and have more they could use.

I'm not convinced that we can't compete with the best in the NFC.

 

[FaSho]

*20 million

Other than that, I agree... let's go all in. For someone who would give anything for another super bowl before he croaks...he certainly is not approaching it with any sense of urgency.

Jerry is a talker, we all know that.

 

[Teague31]

Little Stevie is too cheap to do that. End thread.

 

[Jake]

They paid an average QB like he's Tom Brady.

And privately, they know that was a mistake.

You are giving them far more credit than they have earned and/or you are projecting.

No one loves the aroma of their own flatulence like the Jones boys.

 

[visionary]

Does Jerry actually think he will be able to convince the world that he was the guy who put it all together as he pushes his 90s?

You've got a 40m QB with three years left. He is overpaid because they are supposedly so hard to come by.

Ok, but since you have that player, isn't this the time to make a push to get better?

We saw what the Rams just did, and I'm not advocating for that.....but Tampa and Green Bay are also going for it now, and how exactly are we to compete with that when we are worried about not having too much dead money down the road?

At some point you have to try to take your shot....and they CAN do it, and do it now....but they seem to choose not to.

Are we content to lose to whoever is going all in at the time as long as we can still do that when it's someone else??

I really don't understand, and also can't see how Jerry thinks he is getting "that Super Bowl" if they don't take some risks.

The kid seems to be beyond conservative, and it's proven to do nothing except maybe get you into the playoffs.

They can't build on success at all......every winning season is followed by a disaster.

I know the kid has a lot of say these days, but I'm surprised Jerry doesn't have more of a desire to take the next step and try to build on last year.

I got news for you

This is what Stephen going all in looks like

We signed Sprinkle? If that doesn’t say going all in I’m not sure what does

 

[Captain43Crash]

Real free agency hasn't even started, and people are lamenting what is going on.

We have lost Cooper, and now Gregory. We lost Conner WIlliams....the horror!!!!! We lost Cedric Wilson.

We have signed Hooker, and Schultz, and re did Lawrence (who is our best DL by far), resigned Gallup and Noah Brown.

Gregory's loss will hurt some....but come on...his best season and he got six sacks. Throw in his injuries and personal demons, and is that really a guy you want to pay a lot of money to and count on? Let's just see whether we add someone that can be a replacement for him. We were willing to spend the money on him, we should be willing to offer similar money to another guy. I mean, some had Gregory as the best edge guy in free agency....with Chandler Jones, Von Miller and Zadarius Smith behind him. Wouldn't one of those guys be just as good, or maybe even better?

Cooper was more style than substance. He wasn't a game changer in the way Davante Adams is. Or about 10 other top notch receivers. He is good, and it won't be easy to replace his production...but you have to hope that Lamb steps up, that Gallup comes back healthy, and that we draft another WR in a stacked group. I'd still like to see them resign Malik Turner, he showed a little something when he got a chance.

Conner WIlliams for 7m a year? Glad someone else is taking that bite. That could very well be a nice comp pick for next year. Gregory's deal likely is worth a 4th or even a 3rd. I have no problem if we sign a guy that cancels the comp pick, I'd welcome it.

Our holes a year ago were easy to find. We still were soft in the middle against the run. Brown is still a corner that teams pick on...people said he played well and it was only one game that he got roasted. Rewatched the Bucs game and it was brutal how much Brady burnt him. LG was a weakness as was C. McGovern is similar to what we got from Williams. We could likely improve the spot with an early round pick. Wouldn't mind seeing a vet added somewhere along the line. Who know what ends up happening with Lael Collins. THey should move him to LG (been saying this since he went out last year) and put Steele at RT. I think that line is better than what we put out there a year ago and if we draft a guy early we should have some depth. Farniok, Ball, Alarcon and a few others will batter it out for the reserves.

The one guy we had that we need to resign is Kearse. He was the glue on the defense and is more valuable to us than he is to other teams. Hoping we get him redone.

A new K that isn't a head case will make a difference....Zeurlein lost multiple games for us.

Just need to give them a chance and see how things unfold. I had been saying all along that we had plenty of moves to generate cap space. They have done several of them and have more they could use.

I'm not convinced that we can't compete with the best in the NFC.

Very reasonable, unlike so many idiots on this site.

Anyone that thinks we are not all in this year, truly is an idiot.

Let’s wait until Free Agency, the draft, and trades before we “cry, we can’t compete, we are not all in”. Shut your whiny mouths!