News: Most reasonable article out there on Gregory situation

[VaqueroTD]

So between all the Twitters and the fake Fish News, It sounds like the true story is getting mixed up. If you haven’t seen this link, this sounds like what truly happened with the Gregory signing.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ion-of-decision-to-ditch-cowboys-for-broncos/

Cowboys did try to add something that wasn’t reasonable, not normal, and doesn’t sound like Stephen Jones is much of a negotiator. I would say ‘if the Cowboys even intended on keeping him,’ but if Jerry Jones was having to personally get involved then yes, the Cowboys did want to keep him and blew this. I know a lot of fans did not trust him, but the Broncos honestly signed him for cheap versus what decent pass rushers get on the market.

 

[Kingofholland]

So between all the Twitters and the fake Fish News, It sounds like the true story is getting mixed up. If you haven’t seen this link, this sounds like what truly happened with the Gregory signing.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ion-of-decision-to-ditch-cowboys-for-broncos/

Cowboys did try to add something that wasn’t reasonable, not normal, and doesn’t sound like Stephen Jones is much of a negotiator. I would say ‘if the Cowboys even intended on keeping him,’ but if Jerry Jones was having to personally get involved then yes, the Cowboys did want to keep him and blew this. I know a lot of fans did not trust him, but the Broncos honestly signed him for cheap versus what decent pass rushers get on the market.

I get it, but the agent isn't specific on what is actually included on just cause for giving up guarantees. Agents are some of the least trust worthy in the business, so I hope some day the actual contract wording is released.

 

[sunalsorises]

Good article. I imagine the actual truth slides a little from this but probably close.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Good article. I imagine the actual truth slides a little from this but probably close.

I don’t think the Cowboys honestly wanted to keep him that much. Maybe the low offer took them by surprise and they jumped in last second, maybe Jerry undermined Stephen, but it doesn’t sound like they went after him hard until the last second. OR…gasp… maybe Gregory just didn’t want to play for the fading star and was never much interested himself.

 

[nightrain]

Denver probably has the same language in their contract, but Randy ran out to pick up a bad of med-red and didn't have time to read it.

 

[Aven8]

Two things. I get it from the Cowboys, even though a fine is a little extreme. And two, Stephen is a first class jerk that sucks at negotiating. He’s not a closer like his dad for sure.

 

[VaqueroTD]

I get it, but the agent isn't specific on what is actually included on just cause for giving up guarantees. Agents are some of the least trust worthy in the business, so I hope some day the actual contract wording is released.

I hear you on agents and lawyers, but I don’t think he’s lying. He’s a 30 year agent. It’s very unusual for an agent to release a story like this. I just think the Cowboys got caught lowballing Gregory.

 

[sunalsorises]

I don’t think the Cowboys honestly wanted to keep them that much. Maybe the low offer took them by surprise and they jumped in last second, maybe Jerry undermined Stephen, but it doesn’t sound like they went after him hard until the last second. OR…gasp… maybe Gregory just didn’t want to play for the fading star and was never much interested himself.

Good point. They had last at bat so to speak. They could have more than match. Maybe they were trying to drive the price up on Denver.

 

[Carson]

He negotiated with Denver first. He agreed with Denver first.

Gregory wanted to go to Denver.

But this falls on Jerry. They should have had a deal worked out before Denver.

Everything else is just polishing a turd to make the story sound better

 

[Beast_from_East]

So between all the Twitters and the fake Fish News, It sounds like the true story is getting mixed up. If you haven’t seen this link, this sounds like what truly happened with the Gregory signing.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ion-of-decision-to-ditch-cowboys-for-broncos/

Cowboys did try to add something that wasn’t reasonable, not normal, and doesn’t sound like Stephen Jones is much of a negotiator. I would say ‘if the Cowboys even intended on keeping him,’ but if Jerry Jones was having to personally get involved then yes, the Cowboys did want to keep him and blew this. I know a lot of fans did not trust him, but the Broncos honestly signed him for cheap versus what decent pass rushers get on the market.

If the Cowboys added a clause that any fine, not suspension, but any fine at all give the Cowboys the option to void the contract does seem out of the ordinary. So a late hit on a QB that draws a $10,000 fine is grounds for his contract to be terminated?

I find that hard to believe that every Cowboys contract has this clause. Sounds like this was added specifically for Randy, as his agent is indicating.

 

[Gaede]

I did notice another thing: Cowboys cap specialist/negotiator Adam. Could it be...former Cowboys forum cap specialist AdamJT13?! Sure, all they share is a first name and a hyper focus and specialization on the cap, but still...

 

[MiddleStar]

If the Cowboys added a clause that any fine, not suspension, but any fine at all give the Cowboys the option to void the contract does seem out of the ordinary. So a late hit on a QB that draws a $10,000 fine is grounds for his contract to be terminated?

I find that hard to believe that every Cowboys contract has this clause. Sounds like this was added specifically for Randy, as his agent is indicating.

You do know all contracts can be viewed by other agents and media, right? So if it isn't in the contracts it is easily found out and disproven. So why lie?

 

[Dre11]

If the Cowboys added a clause that any fine, not suspension, but any fine at all give the Cowboys the option to void the contract does seem out of the ordinary. So a late hit on a QB that draws a $10,000 fine is grounds for his contract to be terminated?

I find that hard to believe that every Cowboys contract has this clause. Sounds like this was added specifically for Randy, as his agent is indicating.

It's been reported by Slater that various agents she talked to say it's standard for Dallas in all contracts except Dak. Randy just got his feeling hurt.

 

[Beast_from_East]

You do know all contracts can be viewed by other agents and media, right? So if it isn't in the contracts it is easily found out and disproven. So why lie?

Exactly, why would Gregory's agent lie about it?

His agent says he has been in the business for 30 yrs and has never seen this clause in any other contract he has ever done.

An agent making up a lie would seem to hurt his chances to get future clients, so why would an agent lie about something like this?

 

[Carson]

I did notice another thing: Cowboys cap specialist/negotiator Adam. Could it be...former Cowboys forum cap specialist AdamJT13?! Sure, all they share is a first name and a hyper focus and specialization on the cap, but still...

They are two separate people

 

[LucaBrasi]

At the and of the day, If Gregory and his agent wanted him to be in Dallas he’d be in Dallas.

conversely, if Cap Boy and Paternity Boy wanted RG to be a Cowboy in 2022, they would have gotten the deal done, contract language be damned.

semantics aside, Agent and player ultimately preferred Denver, and Cowboys wanted the player but only on their terms.

 

[erod]

The only party that will regret this is Denver.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don’t think the Cowboys honestly wanted to keep him that much. Maybe the low offer took them by surprise and they jumped in last second, maybe Jerry undermined Stephen, but it doesn’t sound like they went after him hard until the last second. OR…gasp… maybe Gregory just didn’t want to play for the fading star and was never much interested himself.

What low offer?

 

[Beast_from_East]

It's been reported by Slater that various agents she talked to say it's standard for Dallas in all contracts except Dak. Randy just got his feeling hurt.

Why was Dak exempted if its common boilerplate language in all their contracts?

It cant be both ways. It cant be that this is typical boilerplate language that is found in the CBA itself and is in all of Dallas's contracts, but yet Dak is excluded.

How can Dak be excluded if its from the CBA itself? Something does not add up here.

 

[Whyjerry]

The bloom is off the rose in Dallas. Players know it is a dumpster fire. Cole Beasley said it best.